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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 20:17 GMT
#3366
Also LOL if he flips scum and both yamato and him gave up at the sight of pressure. If this trend keeps up, we should just keeps pressuring different people
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 20:21 GMT
#3371
On August 16 2013 05:19 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 05:17 Xatalos wrote:
Also LOL if he flips scum and both yamato and him gave up at the sight of pressure. If this trend keeps up, we should just keeps pressuring different people

pressuring people to get a read on them?

what a groundbreaking suggestion


I meant a total vote pressure, 50+% votes. That seems to work pretty well.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 20:23 GMT
#3373
On August 16 2013 05:19 s0Lstice wrote:
Yea we can't not lynch him now.

My gut says he is telling the truth though.


I'm maybe slightly leaning on Survivor too. But.... Still. He hasn't played townish in any fashion this game. Wouldn't he at least try a bit (maybe not enough to get NK'd) as Survivor?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 20:25 GMT
#3377
So we have Vivax and Kush flipping in the near future. The other is confirmed not town, the other is anti-town. It feels like a good day. At least one of them is scum too, I bet.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 20:27 GMT
#3379
On August 16 2013 05:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 05:23 Xatalos wrote:
On August 16 2013 05:19 s0Lstice wrote:
Yea we can't not lynch him now.

My gut says he is telling the truth though.


I'm maybe slightly leaning on Survivor too. But.... Still. He hasn't played townish in any fashion this game. Wouldn't he at least try a bit (maybe not enough to get NK'd) as Survivor?

as survivor he'd try to survive right about now.

instead of claiming and fucking off.


A decent point.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 20:29 GMT
#3381
On August 16 2013 05:27 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like, this claim makes NO SENSE for scum to make. Why not just claim town jailer? He can make the argument that he didn't want to get lynched.


Hmm.... Feels like he just gave up in any case. Hard to tell if he gave up as Survivor or as scum. In either case he SHOULD try to survive. Based on his win condition as either one......
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 20:30 GMT
#3382
Where art thou, Lord Acrofales?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 20:38 GMT
#3384
On August 16 2013 05:31 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yeah but as scum you can fake contribute and shit and try to get a mislynch to happen, then die the next day with little discussion.
As survivor you give up since there's no way you're living till endgame when you have this much pressure on you d3.


Do you suggest we shouldn't lynch him? I kind of agree with you in that he's more likely Survivor than scum, but the risk is too great. And there's really no downside either. Considering that he chose to play against town either way.

WIFOM TIME

Who where all the roleblocked ones? Me N1, Sharrant N2, forgot the rest.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 20:40 GMT
#3387
Also if there is a town JK, don't claim. Vivax is getting lynched anyway.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 20:45 GMT
#3391
On August 16 2013 05:40 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 05:06 Koshi wrote:
Can I shoot somebody?

Shit. You really an SK?


LOL

Acro, I can say that there's PM reason to believe he's town. Quite likely at least.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 20:49 GMT
#3393
On August 16 2013 05:44 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm trying to figure out if lynching vivax is the correct play. Xata you say you agree he's more likely survivor jailer than scum, right?

Let's say he's 100% survivor jailer, should we lynch him?


Maybe not if he's 100% Survivor and clearly willing to win with town. As it stands though, he's more like 60-70% Survivor and clearly not interested in helping town at all. I think it's safe to say that he's scum or a kind of traitor, 90% likely to side with scum closer to LYLO.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 20:50 GMT
#3396
Who besides me was RB'd N1?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 20:51 GMT
#3399
On August 16 2013 05:49 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 05:30 Xatalos wrote:
Where art thou, Lord Acrofales?

I'm not a lord. My lord is afk

What do you want to know?


Just wanted to know if you're still pursuing snb. Or did Vivax's claim make you change your mind?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 20:52 GMT
#3400
On August 16 2013 05:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 05:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 16 2013 05:44 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm trying to figure out if lynching vivax is the correct play. Xata you say you agree he's more likely survivor jailer than scum, right?

Let's say he's 100% survivor jailer, should we lynch him?

as confirmed not-town, it would be his place to answer why we shouldn't lynch him.

he didn't and doesn't



it's ez, really.


Town win condition is to kill all scum, yes? Scum win condition is to kill people till they outnumber everyone else.
How does lynching a survivor help town win condition?


As it stands though, he's more like 60-70% Survivor and clearly not interested in helping town at all. I think it's safe to say that he's scum or a kind of traitor, 90% likely to side with scum closer to LYLO.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 20:59 GMT
#3416
"Town wins when all non-town are eliminated. Mafia wins when all non-mafia are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening."

[image loading]

#KillVivaxWithFire
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 21:01 GMT
#3417
Just waiting for Vivax to start posting baby seals any minute now.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 21:04 GMT
#3421
There's simply NO WAY there is a Survivor in this game. At most an Anti-Town Survivor (like in one of the recent games I played in), a SK or a Traitor - more likely just scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 21:04 GMT
#3423
On August 16 2013 06:02 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 06:01 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 16 2013 05:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 16 2013 05:58 Clarity_nl wrote:
Makes it much more likely that vivax is a traitor rather than survivor.
I can't say I've seen a game where a survivor exists yet the town goal is to eliminate all non-town.

Nice job dandel, but to quote palmar (try to read in an icelandic accent) "If you read the OP you are a noooowbie"

better than being an idiot


AYAYAYAY




Dandel, that's just mean.

you're just jelly I'm able to read the OP

in contrast to...
well
everybody else in this game it seems
#sweg


Clearly Vivax didn't read it either...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 21:10 GMT
#3426
I'm very glad we chose Vivax over snb. Although could snb also be scum? I don't think anyone even opposed his lynch? Or did someone? Feels a bit weird to have 2 scum as the choices for today though. If Vivax is some other anti-town role, not so much though.

Now I'm mostly interested to hear what Risen and Sharrant have to say about the kill list. And pick times as well.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 15 2013 21:13 GMT
#3430
On August 16 2013 06:11 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos, what is this townie PM you have on me? When will you tell me?


Who was your Lord btw?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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