Titanic Mini Mafia!

On July 27 2013 11:41 FirmTofu wrote:
Vayne, can you start playing the game sometime soon?

On July 27 2013 13:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
Low post count is a reason why someone is scummy.

Exarezee, why must you spoil the plan.

Explain the Paperscraps bit from a scum point of view rather than a dude who is joking around.
Cause thats what I see.

On July 28 2013 00:18 hzflank wrote:


How does multiple people suspecting someone make that person town?

On July 28 2013 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vayne, try a bit please.

what do you think of justanothertownie?

On July 28 2013 00:29 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:


Would you mind telling us who you think is scum?

On July 28 2013 00:31 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:

So let me get this straight, you don't want to share your scum reads?
And you are town because...?

On July 28 2013 00:32 hzflank wrote:


No one asked for a list. A name and a reason would be good enough.

On July 28 2013 00:36 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:

I see you are trying to go for the "so bad I couldn't possibly be scum" technique. That's not going to work here, boy.

On July 28 2013 02:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
So anyway about Vayne, he is playing this game totally different from his sole scumgame on site, serious play there, got into a egobitch fight with marv and yeah. None of that here. At all. Meta says he aint scum.

Of course, he might just be really good and faking the bullshit but I dont see why he needs to draw attention to himself when he can play perfectly competent town when he rolls scum.

On July 28 2013 14:06 exarezee wrote:
I'm tunneling? What do I not see clearly?

Please point out flaws in my logical reasoning. Where do I make a bad logical mistake to imply I am not a townsperson trying to solve the case.

On July 28 2013 14:18 exarezee wrote:


I think almost all of my posts today were responses to other people either asking me a question or me correcting wrong information said about me. I haven't been pushing my case much at all. I still don't see what I am tunneling. What blinders do I have on that is affecting my play?

On July 28 2013 14:29 exarezee wrote:
@Vayne

I see that you want to stop discussions when you don't answer anything that I ask. Tunneling implies that I am so focused on something that I don't see the bigger picture. Please tell me the bigger picture that I'm missing. Don't give me some random saying like putting all your eggs in one basket. I know I'm town. It is certainly possible that paper is town. If papers is town, how am i setting myself up for a failure of a game?

Who do you think is a better scum candidate than papers atm?

On July 29 2013 06:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:

FT/Paper/JAT.

On July 29 2013 08:03 Koshi wrote:
hahahahahahahaha.
So wait. This time my read isn't good because?

Paper looks town to me.
Hz looks scum to me.

I have no reads otherwise except I always like a VA lynch.

So. Why is this bad?

On July 29 2013 09:52 Vivax wrote:


Gj, you did nothing to push a better lynch, instead you voted another townie.

On July 29 2013 09:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:

If you think D1 is a crapshoot why don't you vote for no-lynch then?

On July 29 2013 09:59 exarezee wrote:


I don't get all you guys who just say you are joking around. How the hell am i supposed to tell when you joke or don't joke. I thought when you first said you weren't going to give ur scumreads that you were joking.

On July 30 2013 02:08 Vivax wrote:
This game is terrible.
I wish I rolled mafia in this town :/

On July 27 2013 13:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
Yea it's classic scum play but I've never played with him before so not jumping to any conclusions. Scum are the first ones to make facetious comments like that last post you quoted. We'll have to keep an eye on him at the least.

On July 30 2013 02:49 Vivax wrote:


What exactly didn't you like about hzflank, honeybear?

On July 30 2013 09:24 hzflank wrote:


Considering that there is no framer in the game, should you not of cop checked me?

On July 30 2013 09:29 Clarity_nl wrote:


To what purpose? If I were scum knowing you were town you're the most obvious roleblock target.
Yet I got roleblocked.

Dunno.

On July 30 2013 09:32 Clarity_nl wrote:


Because, as scum knowing you're town, you played to not get nightkilled. Equals blue?

On July 30 2013 09:32 Clarity_nl wrote:


I mean, I hate to be devils advocate on myself but scum could simply not have a roleblocker.

On July 30 2013 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##Unvote:
##Vote: justanothertownie

I agree with your conclusion on JAT. Why the fuck did you fakeclaim if town?

On July 30 2013 09:28 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok. Still the most likely scumteam for me is now (if this check is for real):
hzflank, FirmTofu, Malongo + maybe rayn or oats.
Details tomorrow.

On July 30 2013 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:

Parenthesis? Sorry, im not a native speaker.
I liked this check because I came to the conclusion that Tofu and hz are likely to be scum and Malongo was a null read for me which fits in really well because hz wanted no connection between Malongo and Koshi to be had while Koshi was treated as scum.

On July 30 2013 10:02 justanothertownie wrote:
I added (if this check is for real) because I didn't know if it is? I didn't know if you were telling the truth and I didn't know there were no millers in this game - like many other people to obviously.

On July 30 2013 10:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
also hzflank is town, that's another reason why JAT is scum.

vayne, what do you think of FT's response to your `"check"?
"Malongo needs to explain himself"... rofl, could have aswell said "i know the guy is town".

On July 31 2013 00:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vayne, Im getting an extreme noob townie vibe off JAT and I dont want to lynch him anymore. Do you think differently?

Malongo struggling for air right now lol.

On July 31 2013 01:21 Stutters695 wrote:


This post is retarded. Even Adam Sessler wouldn't give this post a three... out of five. Probably like a .5.

On July 31 2013 01:34 hzflank wrote:


Rayn never questioned Vayne motivations at all. When everyone else was trying to work out if Vayne was cop or scum, Rayn and Vayne were both trying to work out which third parties were scum based on their responses. They both jumped on JAT at the same time for the same reason.

Basically, Rayn and Vayne were completely on the same page about everything. They were even on a similar page about Clarity's RB claim. I do not think that Rayn is scum but Vayne is town.

On July 31 2013 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:

vayne no there isn´t. and i don´t buddy you as scum. if i have done so there is some other reason than that the person is you.

On July 31 2013 04:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Hey, Vayne... maybe you want to give a more detailed reasoning for why you think my play is weird and I therefore have to be scum? Also you could give us some reads apart from me. You don't want to look scummy do you?

On July 31 2013 11:20 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:

Sorry. For filter.

On July 31 2013 23:31 Clarity_nl wrote:
Everytime vayne posts I wish I could vig him.
Other than 1 information gathering move (which screws town if he's scum).
Other than that, useless to town or scum. win/win.

On July 31 2013 23:35 Koshi wrote:

He wasn't till he voted on himself. Come on VA. I have so many suspects for being scum. I can't have you as well D:

Any reads on XRZ/Oats/JAT?

On July 31 2013 23:37 Koshi wrote:
btw, if Malongo ragequited he could be replaced.

On July 31 2013 23:42 Koshi wrote:

I don't know if what your read of DH was before he ragequited. But in this game you can give Malongo a town read? That shit with your fake claim was town right?

On July 31 2013 23:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
My problem with you vayne, other than you trolling 80% of the time when you are clearly capable of more, your day 1 makes you look terrible.

Yes, you didn't want to lynch Paper. Who did you want to lynch instead? Vivax.

Nice random point at there end there btw.

Then you say you'll consolidate if you have to, a full 3 minutes after voting for vivax.

Do you try to push your own wagon, or even try to see if others are willing to go for Vivax? No ofcourse not. Why would you care who gets lynched if you're scum? Currently Paper is on track to be lynched, who you are calling town, but that doesn't stop you from going "w/e I'll consolidate"

Do you end up consolidating? No, you just keep your vote uselessly on Vivax.

So... Where is your vote on Tofu?

I'm actually willing to lynch you now. At least Koshi has started trying.
##Vote VayneAuthority

On August 01 2013 02:19 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:

I'm pretty sure giving out fake reads and refusing to take this game seriously counts as not contributing to your wincon...

On August 01 2013 02:20 hzflank wrote:


Remember that we only have 1 mislynch left.

On August 01 2013 04:01 Koshi wrote:

Ok I see. But to me Malongo comes out town in that exchange with Vayne... Damn. Did you read what people said about it? That Malongo tried to sacrifice himself to prove Vayne lied and therefore found a scum? (or the person that told Vayne through PM -_-)

On August 01 2013 04:46 Clarity_nl wrote:


You're implying a scum rayn knew there was no doc?

On August 01 2013 05:07 hzflank wrote:


See, now that I have attempted to proxy-Vig you by directing the next NK at you, you are now being useful!

This is my third game, I have played 1 before as town. We came back to win from a 4-3 LYLO and I was in the position where I had to make the final decision. We had a player a bit like Malongo in the game and he was town. By the time the LYLO came I managed to get him on side, he sheeped my vote and we won the game. If Malongo is town then do not give up on him yet.

On August 01 2013 05:15 hzflank wrote:


Fair enough. But if Rayn is scum do you honestly think the chance of Stutters being town is high?

On August 01 2013 05:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
Vayne, you realize what a hypocrit you are right?

On August 01 2013 05:36 hzflank wrote:


No he means that if your only reason for thinking Rayn is scum is his defense of the wrong people, then you should think everyone is scum who defends wrongly. Defending the wrong people does not make Rayne scum.

Or if you only think that Rayn is scum due to meta then you are being a hypocrit like Koshi only thought that I was scum due to meta.

On August 01 2013 06:36 hzflank wrote:
Vayne and Clarity:

Do you see how lynching Malongo is bad for town at this point? if he flips green we are screwed. Lynch Stutter or Cora with me?

On August 01 2013 06:43 hzflank wrote:


If you are town you should be trying to win the fucking game. Lynching Mal is not the best chance we have at winning the game. Lynching Mal has a very good chance of losing us this game.

On August 01 2013 06:48 hzflank wrote:
And what happens if Mal flips green? we are at a 6-4 MYLO. We do not know for sure who even 1 scum is and we need 4 scum lynches in a row while scum slowly NK everyone who is confirmed town (except possibly me).

That is a really really shitty situation to get into.

On August 01 2013 06:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like, I bet you're the guy that blames game balance.
You're basically the IdrA of TL mafia, how do you feel.

On August 01 2013 07:53 hzflank wrote:


No. Plurality voting = whoever has the most gets killed.

Majority = minimum requirement or no lynch.

If we do not get 7 votes on one person then there is no lynch today.

On August 01 2013 08:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
cleaner only works on nightkills not lynches, so we can still lynch and know whatsup

On August 01 2013 08:34 Koshi wrote:

But this means FT is 100% scum right?

On August 01 2013 08:35 Clarity_nl wrote:
If they were gonna shoot someone, why not do it n1?

On August 01 2013 08:55 hzflank wrote:
Vayne, you were faking not knowing how majority lynch works, right?

On August 01 2013 23:37 hzflank wrote:


Why do you expect Rayn to keep feeding us cop checks when scum have a roleblocker? Whether he is scum or not, Rayn cannot cop check anyone unless we lynch the roleblocker.

On August 01 2013 23:41 hzflank wrote:
Okay Vayne, think about this:

Stutters said he thought that Malongo was scum. Stutters also said that if we mislynch D2 and a Janitor kills goes through we lose if Malongo and/or Oats are town because they will probably not be available to stop a last minute vote switch.

Why did Stutters not want to lynch Malongo D2?

On August 01 2013 23:49 hzflank wrote:


Think about what I just said:

Stutters wants to lynch scum. Stutters thinks that FT and Mal are both scum.

Stutters thinks that if Mal is in fact town then he is a liability to town.

Why would Stutters push hard to lynch FT instead of Mal?

In Stutters mind: FT is likely scum. Mal is likely scum but if Mal is town then we are screwed.

If Stutters was telling the truth about his reads he should of preferred a Mal lynch, but he pushed FT lynch hard.

On August 01 2013 23:56 Clarity_nl wrote:


Working under the assumption that you didn't know it was majority lynch, yeah staying on him wasn't so bad.
But it was majority lynch, and if we didn't have xrz with a redcheck on malongo you could have cost us the game.
Anyway, postgame stuff.

On August 02 2013 02:42 Clarity_nl wrote:
I don't think anyone did. I just think his meta combined with his martyr made people go "well fuck this guy, he better be scum"
No one should have that bad of a town meta, though

On August 07 2013 09:41 exarezee wrote:


i know what im doing.

On August 07 2013 09:44 exarezee wrote:


plz dont act superior. i have played a lot.

On August 07 2013 09:46 Aquanim wrote:

Vayne your play was pretty awful too so stop complaining

On August 07 2013 09:46 exarezee wrote:
and you are an asshole vayne. giving it to u str8

On August 07 2013 09:52 Aquanim wrote:

You were confirmed town because you had a green check on you by a cop.

Everyone thought you were town because they thought you wouldn't troll that hard as scum, not because you did anything useful.

You drew a nightkill because scum wanted to WIFOM the double-cop situation, not because they had any respect for your play.

On August 07 2013 10:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:




My cohost doesn't call people faggots and downs. I'm not having toxic people play in my games. Cool your jets and move on. Take it to PM's if you have to. But I'm not having any of this here.

On August 07 2013 10:37 hzflank wrote:


You suspected CJS because you knew that we had a doctor. No one else knew that, so it just made you look scummy to me

God, I read scum QT around the end of D2. If we had consolidated on FT or Cora...

The 4 people most likely to be lynched D2 ended up being Malongo, FT, Cora and Stutters. And it all went to hell because we could not get a majority.

On August 07 2013 10:42 FirmTofu wrote:

I think majority lynch is a useful mechanic that hosts can use to give a slight bump in balance towards scum. If the hosts wanted to make a relatively strong town, they could give scum majority lynch to somewhat balance the setup.

I personally don't like ML, but I can understand why it was used.

On August 07 2013 11:39 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:

Fuck you Vayne. If people thought I was scummy they would've called me gf. You played like shit. Like the worst kind of shit. So don't give me that bullshit.

On August 07 2013 11:44 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:

You are truly a terrible person Vayne. Truly terrible.

Read: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=423230

I didn't fake shit, asshole.