If you are town then you should be trying to win the game and not caring about what you look like when the game ends!

Save the post game stuff for post game. You are using that as an excuse to not try to solve the game.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 19:02 GMT

#4662

Look, FT's state of the game misses a key point:

Scum only need 1 mislynch to win but we have 3 people who are highly likely to be town

Scum are not in as good of a position as it might initially seem. They have to use their next 2 Nks on Rayn and Cora (in either order) and that still leaves me as a Veteran who will be at the final MYLO who they cannot just nightkill!

Scum either need a mislynch today or they need to rely on me being horribly wrong. Scum have to make a big play to get a mislynch today and/or do something to make me get it wrong in future.

All of this sudden activity is not just a coincidence. Scum are currently rattled. Look for the people who are almost going all-in to secure a D4 mislynch.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 19:19 GMT

#4663

Stutters townslipped.

On August 02 2013 10:54 Stutters695 wrote:
Rayn just said Oats is town or GF yet there is no framer. Dude is scum.

Oats has said that Tofu was town all game due to a town slip. Why is Oats now saying that Stutters is scum?

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 19:30 GMT

#4664

On August 07 2013 03:47 Koshi wrote:
I put my vote in rayn his hands. I know I am town, everything is better for town than me. I still think you are scum. I don't think we will eventually win this game unless I am wrong about FT or Oats. But with rayn wanting to check Oats I just don't believe it.

I have said that I am not willing to lynch Stutters today. The Stutters lynch will not happen without me on board.

If you are town and we lynch you then town loses. Why are you unwilling to got for a lynch on Oats?

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 19:35 GMT

#4672

On August 07 2013 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hzflank you are being stupid too. There is no way we can lynch Oats today. So you are also ensuring we lose if Koshi is town?

geez guys. So all this discussion is pointless as no other lynch is gonna happen than Koshi. Pretty sad day phase.

Why not? I made a decent case against Oats and no one seems to be sure that he is town. The only person who would need to be convinced is Cora.

In fact, we cannot move our votes off of Koshi to anyone unless Cora agrees.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 19:38 GMT

#4674

Meh, I think I have made a better case against Oats than anyone has made against Stutters. Whatever, I genuinely think that Koshi is scum so I will not fight against it. I just did not want to waste the whole day phase talking only about Koshi.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 19:42 GMT

#4676

Cora, my vote has been on Koshi all day. That does not mean that I should stop scum hunting.

You accused me a lot of confirmation bias on D3 but on D4 you have done the same yourself. We do need to to keep playing the game and trying to win it.

What is happening now is town are throwing shit at each other again that should be saved for the end game. If you want to criticize me for trying to win the game then do it after the game ends.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 19:49 GMT

#4679

We still need 1 more vote on Koshi. We cannot trust him to keep his vote on himself.

Stutters / Oats / FT, we need at least one of you.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 19:52 GMT

#4680

On August 07 2013 04:47 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Well you are saying your vote has been on Koshi but Rayn/Oats have changed their votes at least 5 times and it's scaring me haha

Then I hope that you read everything that I have said about Oats. I have completely nailed him over the last 12 hours. You should either think that he is scum or that I am horribly wrong.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 19:57 GMT

#4686

On August 07 2013 04:54 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:

Show nested quote +

I made this handy guide to reading Oats after tunneling him in a bajillion games in a row:

If he cares about what's going on, he's scum
If he doesn't care about what's going on, he's town

Right now he's still under the second one.

Sorry but that is not good enough. I want to win this game. I need more help.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 19:59 GMT

#4690

btw JAT,

On my first read I agree with most of your case against Tofu. There might be some confirmation bias from my part though, so I will read it again.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 20:08 GMT

#4696

On August 07 2013 05:04 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:

Show nested quote +

That's totally good enough. That's why I've had a town read on him since the middle of Night 1. There are 3 people who have played way scummier than Oats: Koshi, JAT, and Stutters

You guys try to make association cases and I try to lynch off the scummiest players. My plan is to lynch Koshi, JAT, and then Stutters and get Town MVP because I carried the town on my back.

Then we can have cake and I promise you, it's not a lie.

My case on Oats is only based on association with Koshi who we are currently lynching. You already having a plan is worse than what I am doing. I do not care who town MVP is, I just want to win.

You gave not even tried to push your cases by saying why those are the scummiest players.

I cannot take this game anymore.

Can you make me a VT so that they can just fucking shoot me?

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 20:13 GMT

#4698

I could write an essay about why I have a right to complain about this game. I have had more than enough by this point.

Half the town did not even try. The other half did incredibly stupid shit. Sure, I fucked up horribly on D1, but then I never claimed to have good D1 reads.

Want to just lynch me and end it? I cannot be arsed to keep putting effort in anymore.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 20:15 GMT

#4700

I cannot believe that you fail to push your reads and then blame other people when we lynch scum. Fuck.

I cannot believe that you blame anyone for lynching Exar after what he did.

I cannot fucking believe that you are refusing to read the game based on a meta read.

I have been harassed all fucking game for stupid reasons. There are several people who must be town who have not scum hunted. This is all bullshit.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 20:16 GMT

#4702

I cannot believe that so many people keep talking about how they want to look good post game. Fuck post game. The objective is to win the game. That's it.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 20:24 GMT

#4707

Cora, we knew that Exar and Rayn could both be town.

From your position no one would of voted for Exar. You were in the perfect position to think that he was town. No one else was.

There would not of been a no-lynch on D2 no matter what. Mal might of been lynched without his claim, otherwise FT would of (Cora as an unlikely third). The claim put us in a position where we had to lynch him. I went over it so many times, in the end I realized that there was a reasonable chance that he might be town. But from my position I still could not risk it.

Blame me for D1, fine. I was very wrong about Paper. But I made the right call on D3, regardless of the outcome. The objective is to win the game by lynching scum, but you have to make sure that you keep the town in a position to actually do that.

I was wrong about Malongo D2 aswell, but I would of consolidated on him if needed to get a lynch.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 20:26 GMT

#4708

I do not care about who the MVP is. But if you think that you have the whole scum team nailed, refuse to discuss why, and then hold the town to ransom by forcing them to vote with you that is rubbish.

I can be persuaded that other people are scum, but we will need to discuss it. I am not going to blindly vote with you on D5 when my reads are completely different to yours.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 20:42 GMT

#4714

On August 07 2013 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:

Show nested quote +

Isn't it weird for town tofu to consolidate on his townread koshi at MYLO?

No. But it is weird that he did not previously push harder to prevent the lynch on his town-read.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 22:42 GMT

#4730

It's my fault. I should not of posted that in bold green text.

We cannot spare a lynch on me though, so if anyone has a problem I can just unvote to get a modkill for inactivity. If I am town then it will just change mylo to lylo and will not affect the outcome of the game.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

August 06 2013 22:47 GMT

#4731

We need 4 votes to lynch today, right? and if I am modkilled we still need 4 votes to win?

An IC Vet is completely OP. And me being modkilled will not change the game.

##unvote