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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 19:03 GMT
#3581
I have tried to look for reasons why would XRZ do what he did as town, and how on earth did mafia kill vayne and let me have a check if XRZ is town. I can´t see it. I just can´t.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 19:04 GMT
#3582
Corazon can you comment on this and why does this make sense to you?
On August 03 2013 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So your thought process is that mafia killed vayne, a person who had absolutely zero credibility to convince anyone in this game even when Malongo flipped red, just because he was on the right track or wanted to paint his targets red (i was also one of them, remember). They did kill vayne over 2 claimed cops and let me have a check on Oats because i would call that green check scum afterwards? You are not making very much sense here.

The only reason vayne was killed was because it was a blue snipe and XRZ is the only person who could possibly assume vayne is blue.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 19:26 GMT
#3593
I think you guys are really being dumb. exarezee is most likely scum and even if he isn´t his flip will basically confirm three more people as town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 19:30 GMT
#3594
Yeah Koshi is probably scum too for thinking mafia has a roleblocker and a GF vs 1 cop.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 19:40 GMT
#3600
On August 03 2013 04:37 Koshi wrote:
Ok, who remembers how big the chance was:
1) we were going to lynch rayn
2) rayn was actually a cop
during night phase.

This is better formatting.

1) 0%
2) 100%
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 19:41 GMT
#3603
On August 03 2013 04:38 Koshi wrote:
Maybe scum didn't believe rayn was a cop anymore.
I am pretty sure that I didn't believe rayn was a cop and that XRZ was the real cop.

So you don´t remember if you believed i am a cop or not?
Pretty weak dude.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 19:42 GMT
#3606
On August 03 2013 04:40 FirmTofu wrote:
Alright, I'm finally at my computer for a few minutes.

In my opinion, the XRZ lynch gives us more information, but rayn is far more likely to flip scum based on his behavior throughout this game.

@XRZ
Why are you willing to lynch me even though the entire case on me rests on you being scum?

Also this dude is totally scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 19:46 GMT
#3610
You can´t possibly be that dumb Koshi and FT if you are town, can you?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 19:49 GMT
#3613
On August 03 2013 04:46 FirmTofu wrote:
rayn, if you are town, then you need to stop attacking me and answer my questions properly. I am willing to give you a chance but you aren't even willing to consider the possibility that I am town.

Can we agree to a truce until I can get my bearings around how this new interaction with you and XRZ makes me feel about you?

Your assumption is that i am mafia and XRZ is town. Do you really think mafia has a roleblocker in a game where they have nothing to roleblock as the only role for town would be a veteran?

In addition to this, if we lynch exarezee and he some-fucking-how flips town, that clears:
1) Clarity because scum have a roleblocker, and roleblocking one of their own on N1 is beyond stupid.
2) Oats because he can´t be a godfather, and if he was mafia scum would not let me check him on N2.
3) Corazon because i have a green check on him.

There is not a roleblocker + GF versus one cop, that´s impossible.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 19:51 GMT
#3616
Firmtofu and Koshi, comment on my case on XRZ please.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 19:52 GMT
#3618
On August 03 2013 04:49 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 04:43 Koshi wrote:
On August 03 2013 04:39 hzflank wrote:
On August 03 2013 04:37 Koshi wrote:
Ok, who remembers how big the chance was:
1) we were going to lynch rayn
2) rayn was actually a cop
during night phase.

This is better formatting.


Why? continue please.

Well maybe scum didn't believe that rayn was a cop (not too many of us did), so that means that they don't have to kill him with him being a prime lynchtarget. The small off-chance that he might be a cop he was going to go for Oats, something mafia allowed for x reason.

There are so many possibilities left in this game. I think that only a very few are confirmed town. I would say rayn/hz at this point?


It's possible, but not likely. Based on what Rayn did both at the start and the end of D2 he was likely to be either scum or cop. Scum knew that Rayn was not scum, so if they thought that he was not Cop they made a big mistake.

Why doesn´t anyone listen to this guy who speaks the truth. I know i am bad at explaining stuff so listen to hzflank because he is better than me at explaining and he understands me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 19:55 GMT
#3620
Yeah but FirmTofu is saying there could be both of them and i am not even a cop. :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 20:01 GMT
#3624
On August 03 2013 04:55 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 03 2013 04:46 FirmTofu wrote:
rayn, if you are town, then you need to stop attacking me and answer my questions properly. I am willing to give you a chance but you aren't even willing to consider the possibility that I am town.

Can we agree to a truce until I can get my bearings around how this new interaction with you and XRZ makes me feel about you?

Your assumption is that i am mafia and XRZ is town. Do you really think mafia has a roleblocker in a game where they have nothing to roleblock as the only role for town would be a veteran?

In addition to this, if we lynch exarezee and he some-fucking-how flips town, that clears:
1) Clarity because scum have a roleblocker, and roleblocking one of their own on N1 is beyond stupid.
2) Oats because he can´t be a godfather, and if he was mafia scum would not let me check him on N2.
3) Corazon because i have a green check on him.

There is not a roleblocker + GF versus one cop, that´s impossible.

Why can't Oats be GF? Why can't CJS be GF?


You can´t possibly think this because you think i am mafia! If i am mafia there is no cop, does roleblocker + godfather make sense to you in a setup where there is nothing to roleblock or no cheks?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 20:02 GMT
#3626
This guys, is what i call a scumslip.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 20:03 GMT
#3628
On August 03 2013 05:01 Stutters695 wrote:
It seems pretty obvious scum only has 1kp so you have to remember the game is balanced around that as well. In a normal 12/4 after n2 you're looking at 8/4 or 9/3 and scum might have another night of 2kp depending on the host(if kp rounds up or down).

What are you trying to say?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 20:11 GMT
#3637
It´s kinda pointless to argue with FirmTofu because he can´t even understand what he is saying.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 20:12 GMT
#3639
On August 03 2013 05:11 FirmTofu wrote:
Are we playing with the assumption that there are no more town power roles alive right now?

Explain how it is even remotely possible that there are other powerroles alive?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 20:27 GMT
#3652
There is no doctor. They would have protected Vivax on N1. Period.
Also any power role alive should have claimed on N2 when there was already 2 cop claims and 1 vet claim. 4 town PR´s is not possible.

We do not have any other power roles other than me/hz. Period.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 20:37 GMT
#3655
Yeah, i missed that earlier FT. It does not make you scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 02 2013 21:19 GMT
#3671
On August 03 2013 05:46 Stutters695 wrote:
Rayn quick question for you now that everything is out there. Haven't you claimed a PR before as VT? If so what was your mindset in doing it and why isn't it something XRZ would consider. I'm a little concerned that he would fess up to fake claiming after just getting a scum lynch if he was scum since he's almost confirmed cop if he plays it out, spoon feeds town reads through checks knowingwho is town.

If it wasn't you who fake claimed disregard that part but can you reason with me on why this is a good play for scum XRZ to make?

I don´t remember claiming PR as VT, other than NWM. But that situation was entirely different and over phase fakeclaims as town are fucking stupid!
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