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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 05 2013 01:15 justanothertownie wrote: Yes, I did. If you lynch me we lose. At the moment to me it looks like everyone is dead certain I'm scum. Then why do you think it should be Stutter's job to convince us otherwise? That's your job. You have time as no one is currently advocating your day 4 lynch. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 05 2013 01:19 justanothertownie wrote: I never said it is stutters job. Yes, it is my job and yes we should lynch koshi and it looks like we will but this just leads to the same problem the next day. You thought that town was going to lose because we have no mislynches left and we think that you are scum. You thought that Stutters should be in the thread helping town to not lose. Therefore, you thought that it was Stutters job to help you. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 05 2013 01:11 justanothertownie wrote: If he is scum he doesn't need to give a shit because town is heading towards a lose. You are correct, I was wrong, sorry. You thought that Stutters was scum because he should be in the thread helping town to not lose. I mis-interpreted. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720¤tpage=124#2476 Some things do not add up about FT and Stutters both being scum. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 01 2013 05:13 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote: Stutters I am town. I think FT is town. I am starting to love hz. On August 01 2013 07:05 Koshi wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote FirmTofu On August 01 2013 07:09 Koshi wrote: Rain you are 100% certain you like FT over Cora? On August 01 2013 07:20 Koshi wrote: Dude it really is you or Cora. Never Stutters. Not sure what to make of it yet, but I think Koshi is scum. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
Read through Tofu's day 3 play again and then tell me that he must be town due to a day 1 townslip. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 05 2013 05:16 Clarity_nl wrote: Wait. Do you consider hz possible scum, or do you consider him confirmed town? I actually laughed out loud. Good job  Lets try to not let Koshi mess the thread up. In particular I am really trying to see if Stutters and FT are likely scum together. I can see either of them being scum individually, but D2 makes it look like they are not both scum. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 30 2013 09:28 justanothertownie wrote: Ok. Still the most likely scumteam for me is now (if this check is for real): hzflank, FirmTofu, Malongo + maybe rayn or oats. Details tomorrow. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 30 2013 09:28 justanothertownie wrote: Ok. Still the most likely scumteam for me is now (if this check is for real): hzflank, FirmTofu, Malongo + maybe rayn or oats. Details tomorrow. Either Scum-JAT knows that the check is real and is leaving open the possibility of getting Vayne lynched before Malongo. Normally this would be impossible, but since Vaybe trolled D1 there could have been some hope. Still, without a counter-claim it is highly unlikely. We do not know whether first-timer JAT would know that, though. Or Town-JAT has no reason to trust Vayne more than he trusts Malongo. Hzflank was JAT's biggest scum read at the time, so he shared that scum-read with Malongo. This might make him initially more inclined to believe Malongo than Vayne. Conclusion: JAT would be more likely to believe Vayne if JAT were scum. JAT would be less likely to believe Vayne if JAT were town. Minor town-cred for JAT. Follow-up: When Mal and Koshi are getting the most heat and JAT is being put on hold: On July 31 2013 02:44 FirmTofu wrote: Also, why the fuck are people not looking at JAT? This guy made a SCUM SLIP? Anyone want to explain to me how this guy isn't 100% confirmed mafia? Conclusion: Tofu and JAT are less likely to be of the same alignment. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 05 2013 02:27 Koshi wrote: Hz, Oats are going to be the scumteam. … Rayn IF you are not death today, hz will be town and you scum with oats. We will see. On August 05 2013 05:40 Koshi wrote: Finally a good post. But I am on a point that I put you are hz between those. Also Oats if you don't die today. Inconsistent. Explanation on read change? | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
2) Hz is scum. Oats is not scum if Rayn survives. That is not the same thing. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 05 2013 06:29 Koshi wrote: hz let's talk about FT. You read his filter? Read dad 2 and 3. Have not read day 1 in a long time. IIRC Day 1 was looking town, except for the exchange with Exar. Day 2 FT was more town at the time. Day 3 FT looks like scum. FT was not putting a lot of thought into solving anything day 3, either scum or yolo. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 05 2013 06:32 Koshi wrote: Fucking second time you are misreading things and delaying great discussing. When Stutters, Clarity(?) and I were there to discuss XRZ you were also misreading shit and making fucking shitcases to drain attention. If it isn't misreading you are asking us stupid questions. Always something. I did not misread. First time you said scum is Oats + hz/Rayn. Second time you said scum is hz + Oats/Rayn. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 05 2013 06:37 Koshi wrote: Day 2 he was so close to being lynched. Under heavy pressure it is hard to say things when everything you read is: guys if XRZ flips scum FT is scum in these combinations BUT if XRZ flips town FT is scum in these combinations. It's sad. I am talking about before that. He was not trying to solve anything before I got super deep into associations. In fact when I said that stuff about lynch order it was all a trap for FT (JAT thought the trap was for him), but FT did not really post after that. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 05 2013 06:39 Koshi wrote: To make it more clear: HZ, Oats are my best guesses to be in the scumteam Rayn if you are not death today it is probably rayn/Oats and hz town. (because we will have 1 blue right?) Exactly. Now read the second quote that I posted where you say it the other way around. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 05 2013 06:41 Koshi wrote: But you think that FT his day 2 looked scum? Why? It's his day 3 that looks the worst. I did not initially want to vote for FT on day 2, but people were consolidating on FT and Malongo and of the two I thought that FT was more likely to be scum. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
1) hz + Oats 2) hz + Oats Assuming that Rayn does not die: 1) Rayn + Oats 2) Rayn + hz It was not exactly the same. You changed it and I asked why. If you are not going to tell me why then there is no point in discussing it. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 05 2013 06:48 Koshi wrote: hz you say that FT looked town day 1 and day 2. However, rayn has been on FT this entire game. Why are you not discussing this with rayn? I thought that Rayn might be scum on D2. I was going to go hard after Rayn D3 but then the Exar thing happened. Now I believe that Rayn is town. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 05 2013 06:59 Koshi wrote: WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Because he tunnels your townread and a flipped town? Because he casually claimed cop and stuck with it. Because the N1 check he claims to have made makes sense considering Rayne's play on D2. As scum Rayn did not need to force that lynch on FT by claiming cop. It would of been much better to just sac Malongo. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On August 05 2013 07:06 Koshi wrote: Something he did as soon as another(!) cop just said that there was a red check on Malongo? First reaction should be OMG THERE IS ANOTHER COP?? REALLY? Rayn claimed first. Rayn did not care about lynching Malongo at that point. With no Framer in the setup it was 1-1 worst case, and no point in risking lynching a cop before a VT. | ||
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