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On July 28 2013 15:35 FirmTofu wrote:
No, I didn't say JAT having a town read on me is a town tell. That's simply untrue. I said he has me as a town read. Now, scum usually have some town as town reads. That is not meaningful in itself, however, when it's coupled with the fact that he has a lot of posts that indicate that his town read on me is somewhat justifiable from a town perspective. If you would like, I'll quote them for you.
I'm not going to sheep you if you make a good case. I'll consider voting him if you make a good case. There's a big difference there.
Yes, my read on you was justifiable at that point but where do you see a lot of posts that would indicate this? Sounds weird to me.
I would love to lynch VA for his attitude towards the game but if he always plays like this then there is nothing about him that indicates any alignment. But I would like to know why Vayne thinks Oats voting Tofu is good?
Also I'm still not content with Koshis explanation of his reads. So you actually don't have any scumread anymore besides the troll and the lurkers?
For now I still think Paper is a good lynch. His reads do not impress me.
Oats leaning town - I am really hoping Oats is town, his reads and post so far have been great. His comprehension of what is going on is probably the best so far.
What? Please explain this.
Vayne leaning town - not sure what to think of vayne as of yet, he comes in every so often and drops some knowledge. I think his vote on clarity is pretty bad though. His filter strikes me as town though.
I don't know if we read the posts of the same person...
Koshi leaning town - Koshi is a odd ball so far. I like that he town reads me, haha. I mostly agree with the lists he has made so far.
Yeah, that's because you both don't have any real scumreads.... or do you really think Vivax is scum? Or that I am?
##Vote: Paperscraps
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Ok, so I will probably be here for the next 2 hours before I leave (there is a concert in my city which I definitely won't miss). I hope I will be back before the deadline but I can't 100% guarantee it.
Vivax - would you mind explaining why you think I am scummy and why I am a good lynch today? You don't wan't to lynch me just because I'm a low profile player, do you? If you have any questions i will gladly answer them. Also, I really want to hear your reasoning for the read on Paper.
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I will not be afk till the deadline if you want something from me just say it... I'll be here for over an hour till I leave. Nobody forces you to defend me if you think I am scummy. In fact you shouldn't.
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I do not defend myself because there is nothing to defend against. There is only oats case which I think I defended well enough. Of the others noone did even really make a case against me so how should I defend against that?
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He didn't deny the pidgeon-holing....
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On July 29 2013 00:39 Vivax wrote:The thing i found kinda townie is how he treated people of the nullish category more favourably than not. Scum needs to paint people scummy and get a mislynch, being easy going on potential mislynches is something that works against that objective, in case they need to switch to them later, or start a counterwagon.
So Paper only giving town reads is townie to you? That's some unusual logic.
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On July 29 2013 00:51 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 00:49 justanothertownie wrote:On July 29 2013 00:39 Vivax wrote:On July 29 2013 00:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
Vivax why is paper town? The thing i found kinda townie is how he treated people of the nullish category more favourably than not. Scum needs to paint people scummy and get a mislynch, being easy going on potential mislynches is something that works against that objective, in case they need to switch to them later, or start a counterwagon. So Paper only giving town reads is townie to you? That's some unusual logic. Is it so unusual that you find it scummy?i'm curious to see you get into the spotlight, and not shout from the sidelines. If you think paperscraps or me are scum, then i'm all ears, cause your post suggests that exactly.
I don't know about you. You are null to me and I am unsure if this kind of logic is scummy or just different from my own.
Papers could very well be scum - that's why my vote is on him.
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I'm taking off now. I should be back ~ 2 hours before the deadline but I can't guarantee it.
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I'm back and just caught up. Now I'm frustrated because I already started a post calling Vivax out for lying about my stance on oats and I have to see he corrected himself (nice one). As this is the only real point Vivax makes in order to get people to vote me that is not stolen from oats case (which is terrible) there is nothing more to say for me besides it really looks like Vivax just absolutely doesn't want Paper to be lynched.
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fml...
I really have to reevaluate most of my reads now. I will do so tomorrow.
Vivax doesn't look good for this unvote btw. Can't see a good town reason to do it but scum could try to get town cred.
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Ok, so what is your reasoning exactly? Do you prefer us being absolutely in the dark for another full cycle?
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Now we at least have a flip + voting patterns to analyse.
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Well Oats, I'm not a smurf but I will take that as a compliment ... I guess. Yes, I didn't contribute before the deadline because I was fucking tired and everything went according to plan. We were lynching my scumread. I just critisized Vivax because his unvote looked extremely scummy to me at that moment.
I am at work now an don't have time to read filters but I promise I will be way more active when I get home.
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They did. But I didn't see them succeeding.
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Gut-wise? I would prefer looking at filters before I post reads again. I was totally wrong yesterday and I didn't have the time to take another close look at the game as of yet.
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But to answer your question:
gut-wise and without thinking it through very well the 4 persons I would probably lynch are:
koshi, hzflank, maybe stutters/vayne and you
Take this with a grain of salt.
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It's my first game Koshi. But don't let that cloud your judgement of me. You should not give me a town read for making mistakes just because I'm new.
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Ask me this or any other question again when I'm back at home, please. I will answer them.
All I can say at the moment is that hz and you could very well both be scum. I could imagine hz encouraging you to attack him in the thread because it's not very likely for him to get lynched. Besides I don't believe he has any reluctance to bus you hard.
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I am at home now and read the thread. First I will try to answer the questions directed at me and afterwards I will go through filters and post my reads. Feel free to point me to questions I missed.
Will be here for several hours.
Oats I am new and I could easily prove this to you if you want. But I am absolutely fine with you treating me as a smurf because it's good if you judge me for my play and not for this. So if you insist that I am a smurf I won't defend against this any more after this post.
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To hz:
I read a few games before I made my account to start playing myself but I cannot be bothered to check exactly which ones - I skimmed through most of them anyway. Stormmafia comes to mind - really cool game.
But I guess the goal of your question was the last Newbie game where you were scum. Yes, I read that one.
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