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On August 03 2013 07:33 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 07:32 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 03 2013 07:30 hzflank wrote:On August 03 2013 07:26 Koshi wrote: Without doubt I am going to get lynched this game at some point. First time for everything! Nope. They have a cop and a Vet who have the entire scum team nailed. After they kill Rayn they would need to waste 2 night-kills on me. Their only chance is to persuade people not to vote with me. But..I am confirmed town afterall! They will concede before you are lynched. hz, all these leaps you're making to somehow paint me scum. Remember the time when you asked me why I was so town? Those were good times man. Can we go back to those? At the very least can we lynch two scum before me? Sure. We lynch Exar. If he flips scum then we lynch Cora. If he flips Godfather then we lynch you. Deal?
I agree to two thirds of this plan.
Let's talk about exar flipping town, who do you wanna lynch then? Still CJS or maybe a Koshi/Stutters? (probably stutters)
Also, if we flip two goons, will you still think I'm scum?
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On August 03 2013 07:38 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 07:36 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 03 2013 07:33 hzflank wrote:On August 03 2013 07:32 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 03 2013 07:30 hzflank wrote:On August 03 2013 07:26 Koshi wrote: Without doubt I am going to get lynched this game at some point. First time for everything! Nope. They have a cop and a Vet who have the entire scum team nailed. After they kill Rayn they would need to waste 2 night-kills on me. Their only chance is to persuade people not to vote with me. But..I am confirmed town afterall! They will concede before you are lynched. hz, all these leaps you're making to somehow paint me scum. Remember the time when you asked me why I was so town? Those were good times man. Can we go back to those? At the very least can we lynch two scum before me? Sure. We lynch Exar. If he flips scum then we lynch Cora. If he flips Godfather then we lynch you. Deal? I agree to two thirds of this plan. Let's talk about exar flipping town, who do you wanna lynch then? Still CJS or maybe a Koshi/Stutters? (probably stutters) Also, if we flip two goons, will you still think I'm scum? Last part is easy: there is a green check on Cora so he is GF or town, not goon. First part well: if Exar flips town then I will look a fool. The most likely scenario then is two from Koshi/JAT/FT/Stutters/Oats. I am not sure which two, at the moment.
I haven't done any in depth analysis stuff today, but are you saying that for xrz to be scum, cjs has to be GF? We're also saying it's unlikely that scum has a roleblocker and a GF? If that's the case xrz isn't scum.
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Like, xrz is scum leads to cjs being scum? yes/no?
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I'm okay with the exar lynch. Either we confirm a bunch of people including me or we lynch scum. CJS's post before it turned day looks fishy, but I find it hard to see him as scum. You think he faked the day 1 ragequit as scum?
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I think if xrz flips town we can figure the game out d4. They'll probably kill rayn, or I suppose they might just roleblock him when xrz flips town. Best scenario is if xrz flips roleblocker.
Like, are you assuming that scum cannot have a roleblocker and GF hz? Could you explain your reasoning?
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On August 03 2013 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 07:56 Clarity_nl wrote: I think if xrz flips town we can figure the game out d4. They'll probably kill rayn, or I suppose they might just roleblock him when xrz flips town. Best scenario is if xrz flips roleblocker.
Like, are you assuming that scum cannot have a roleblocker and GF hz? Could you explain your reasoning? Clarity, there is one cop and one vet (which can´t be blocked). The setup is already hard as it´s 10 vs 4. Do you think there is a godfather + roleblocker vs one cop?
I see it as a possibility, but yes it's unlikely. That's why if xrz flips red I really don't wanna lynch cjs
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On August 03 2013 08:04 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 03 2013 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 03 2013 07:56 Clarity_nl wrote: I think if xrz flips town we can figure the game out d4. They'll probably kill rayn, or I suppose they might just roleblock him when xrz flips town. Best scenario is if xrz flips roleblocker.
Like, are you assuming that scum cannot have a roleblocker and GF hz? Could you explain your reasoning? Clarity, there is one cop and one vet (which can´t be blocked). The setup is already hard as it´s 10 vs 4. Do you think there is a godfather + roleblocker vs one cop? I see it as a possibility, but yes it's unlikely. That's why if xrz flips red I really don't wanna lynch cjs You probably know more about the setup than me. Assuming that Xrz flips scum goon and scum do not have both anti-cop PRs, then the percentage play is actually to lynch FT day 4, because even if he flips town we still win (just lynch Cora and Clarity). If FT flips scum we are 6-1. Now, that is all assuming that Xrz flips scum. If Xrz flips town then we are 5-3, but with 3 confirmed town. I think we are getting really good odds from an xrz lynch even if you think that the chance of him being scum is not super high.
Yep.
Isn't it great that despite you thinking I'm scum we still agree? Anyway, I'm off to bed. Catch you all tomorrow.
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I am just getting a bit tired of all the association cases. It seems all actual scumhunting has stopped. I'm willing to lynch xrz just to get over this crap. I'm confident we can find the scum if he flips town.
rayn I don't understand how you can't see that I'm town. What weird voteswitching? day1 I consolidated on tofu, day 2 I just switched to cjs to see who else would.
The logic to vote for xrz made sense. The way he has reacted makes it impossible to say though. The way CJS is going about things, I'd rather lynch tofu or koshi tomorrow regardless. I don't think a scum CJS would be THIS opposed to an xrz lynch if they were both scum.
hz I appreciate all the work you're putting into this game but you don't have to come up with and post every single possibility of the scumteams, it just makes shit chaotic and confusing.
btw, if xrz flips green and ANYONE is still willing to say I'm scum, I'd rather you say that today because if that's the case I'd rather lynch someone else.
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Also Oats does fucking nothing he just sheeps everyone. It's very infuriating
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Something redeeming about xrz. Or someone saying they would still lynch me at some point if xrz flips town.
That's it really. Right now xrz looks bad. If he flips scum that's cool. If he flips town at least I'll be cleared.
My point is oats I haven't seen you put any thought into this game at any point. You just kinda randomly enter the thread, ask questions about what's currently happening instead of finding out yourself, and then you leave with some random remark on a single post that has nothing to do with what people are currently talking about.
Yes, I think you're right about Koshi's post being bs there, but you're doing nothing to push him.
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The only redeeming thing about you oats is that scum would have killed rayn had you been anything but town or GF.
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On August 04 2013 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats does not sheep. He yolo voted XRZ on D2 if you remember Clarity. The CJS "case" on D2 was very frustrating/distracting and makes me feel bad about you because you didn´t even try to get the dude lynched.
Indeed. I did not try to get CJS lynched. Well spotted.
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You can't seriously be this much of an attention whore that you repeat yourself for the umpteenth time and then when there is no response within ten minutes, use another post to ask if anyone is here. Stop trying to convince people to lynch xrz, he's getting lynched.
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On August 04 2013 02:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Clarity who is saying they would still lynch you in case XRZ flips town?
No one, hence I'm still on xrz.
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I'm just really annoyed at your spamming. Like really really annoyed. Now you're saying only you and hz have been trying to figure the game out which is total bs.
Maybe the reason you get that impression is because you are making the game unreadable.
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On August 04 2013 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Clarity, could you answer me these questions:
1) What was your intention to switch the vote onto CJS on D2 and what you would have done if XRZ had not claimed guilty on Malongo? 2) Why exactly are you voting for XRZ as you should know you were roleblocked on N1 and from your perspective it should be clear that mafia didn´t roleblock anyone (read: me) on N2 or XRZ is town? What´s your thought process? 3) Why are you shouting me to not spam because you should know my nature and you should know you posting what you do makes me wanna post even more?
1) Vayne wasn't interested in voting for tofu, so a tofu lynch was not happening. I asked people if they wanted to switch to cjs to see who would. I've already said I had no intention of lynching him. 2) Scum withholding a roleblock d2 is obviously a possibility. The points against xrz are valid. 3) Because you're making this game a goddamn chore. For every good post that has information in it in this game I have to slog through like 5 or 6 of yours. I feel like I've posted way too much and my filter is like 20 pages. Yours is 34, and you didn't even start playing until 3/4 into day 1. It's ridiculous. You are not helping town with this.
If every post you made said something new, fine I guess. But all you've done today is REPEAT THE SAME GODDAMN THING 50x as if we didn't hear you the first 49x.
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On August 04 2013 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2013 02:32 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 04 2013 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Clarity, could you answer me these questions:
1) What was your intention to switch the vote onto CJS on D2 and what you would have done if XRZ had not claimed guilty on Malongo? 2) Why exactly are you voting for XRZ as you should know you were roleblocked on N1 and from your perspective it should be clear that mafia didn´t roleblock anyone (read: me) on N2 or XRZ is town? What´s your thought process? 3) Why are you shouting me to not spam because you should know my nature and you should know you posting what you do makes me wanna post even more? 1) Vayne wasn't interested in voting for tofu, so a tofu lynch was not happening. I asked people if they wanted to switch to cjs to see who would. I've already said I had no intention of lynching him. 2) Scum withholding a roleblock d2 is obviously a possibility. The points against xrz are valid. 3) Because you're making this game a goddamn chore. For every good post that has information in it in this game I have to slog through like 5 or 6 of yours. I feel like I've posted way too much and my filter is like 20 pages. Yours is 34, and you didn't even start playing until 3/4 into day 1. It's ridiculous. You are not helping town with this. If every post you made said something new, fine I guess. But all you've done today is REPEAT THE SAME GODDAMN THING 50x as if we didn't hear you the first 49x. 1) You didn´t really answer, unless you wanted to no-lynch. So can i get an answer? 2) Why does it make sense for mafia to not roleblock a possible cop if they have a roleblocker? 3) I´m a bit offended about this because nobody listens to me for the first 49 times i post my stuff. But this is something that needs no more discussing.
Sigh.
1) I thought it was gonna be a no lynch regardless. 2) It doesn't really, but them giving you a check makes no sense if xrz is town either. 3) I don't care if you're offended I'm just asking you to stop repeating yourself. You're heard.
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On August 04 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: 1) So you thought FT was scum but you did nothing to convince vayne to switch his vote onto him? Instead you start another wagon that pretty much ensures there is gonna be a no-lynch? On top of that when XRZ claims guilty on Malongo you vote for him instead???? See, this is why i don´t trust you. 2) You are right, it does not make sense unless XRZ is mafia and mafia thought vayne is a power role. Do you think anyone else than XRZ could have thought vayne was a cop/doc instead of me and if yes, why?
Vayne does not seem like a person that you can convince of anything.
We've had this conversation before. This is my fucking point. I believe it's not that improbable that scum thought you were full of shit about being cop, and believing there is a vet + cop + whatever vayne might have been (2nd cop most likely cause of his malongo check fakeclaim)
I have said all of this before.
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On August 01 2013 07:27 Clarity_nl wrote: Seriously guys, if you are town you HAVE to consolidate. Even if you think FT is town at this point, if there is a no lynch we NEED to know for sure that it's because there wasn't more than 1 (?) scum on it.
If we no lynch with like 5 votes on FT we're screwed.
This is not me trying to convince people to switch to FT? Or did I have to address Vayne specifically for it to count? Congratulations, you made me filter dive myself because you wouldn't.
In case you haven't noticed, scum have had little to no thread presence today. It's literally been hz, you and me. It makes me doubtful. But as I've said I'll stay the course.
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