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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 21:45 GMT
#2434
Are you guys thinking about possible end-game scenarios and routes to victory? Lynching Mal is really bad. There are a whole bunch of people that give us better odds than lynching Mal.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 21:48 GMT
#2437
And what happens if Mal flips green? we are at a 6-4 MYLO. We do not know for sure who even 1 scum is and we need 4 scum lynches in a row while scum slowly NK everyone who is confirmed town (except possibly me).

That is a really really shitty situation to get into.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 21:48 GMT
#2440
Fuck you Vayne and Cora

##unvote
##Vote: FirmTofu
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 21:51 GMT
#2447
On August 01 2013 06:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
Stutters being scum would only make sense if vayne is also scum in my eyes.
I was pretty sure stutters was scum at the end of n1, then his reply to vayne's claim made him look town.


Stutters/Vayne/Rayn +1 works just fine. Could easily be JAT.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 21:52 GMT
#2449
On August 01 2013 06:50 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 06:48 hzflank wrote:
And what happens if Mal flips green? we are at a 6-4 MYLO. We do not know for sure who even 1 scum is and we need 4 scum lynches in a row while scum slowly NK everyone who is confirmed town (except possibly me).

That is a really really shitty situation to get into.


If malongo flips green I'll just be really apathetic and forget this game even happened in a few days like I did with NWM.
Not the end of the world and I won't feel bad at all.

Lets say I go ahead and lynch firmtofu with you guys and he flips green. We get to endgame and malongo flips red and everyone has a good laugh at my expense.

Fuck that.


So you are actually not trying to win, then.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 21:53 GMT
#2452
Cora and Vayne are not both scum (imo) yet they are both pushing the Mal lynch which is an absolutely horrible thing for any townie to do. wtf.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 21:57 GMT
#2459
On August 01 2013 06:55 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
At least FT is going to defend himself and he will scumhunt on D3. What is Malongo going to do? Nothing. We're going to sit here and think about Malongo's lynch some more because we didn't lynch him today.

Basically if we keep Malongo around, the issue of lynching him is going to stick around every single day until we lynch him. Do you really want to be sitting at D5/6/7 with a complete question mark and a complete crapshoot in Malongo? I definitely would not want to do that.

FirmTofu is going to continue to give us posts that will help us determine his alignment even more accurately. Malongo is going to continue to be a crapshoot. Let's get rid of the mystery earlier and get this town headed in a better and clearer direction.


We do not have that luxury with this setup, because we only have 1 mislynch left. As I said, if we mislynch on someone who gives us no associations then we need 4 scum lynches in a row. That is not going to happen. If we mislynch on Mal we may as well concede the game.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 22:03 GMT
#2472
Fecking hell Vayne, you made him claim with all your bullshit :/
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 22:04 GMT
#2475
Rayn's cop claim makes total sense btw. If you guys spent as much time as I did analyzing pages 77-80 you will get it.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 22:05 GMT
#2480
Rayn your cop claim wont save you if FT flips green, btw. Let's make that clear right now
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 22:07 GMT
#2485
On August 01 2013 07:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
makes zero sense to me given how he treated my fake claim. He immediately voted for malongo and was like "no way is he fakeclaiming"

if it's a real claim, terrible time to do it because I don't have enough time to assess it now.

anddd

im gone


What? Did you reread the game?

Rayn had a green check on you so when you fake claimed he knew that you were not scum. So instead of trying to work out whether or not you were really a cop, Rayn spent his time looking at other people's reactions. Rayne knew that you were town fake claiming cop which is why Rayn acted identically to you (Vayne).
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 22:10 GMT
#2496
On August 01 2013 07:08 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 01 2013 07:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
makes zero sense to me given how he treated my fake claim. He immediately voted for malongo and was like "no way is he fakeclaiming"

if it's a real claim, terrible time to do it because I don't have enough time to assess it now.

anddd

im gone

On August 01 2013 07:05 hzflank wrote:
Rayn your cop claim wont save you if FT flips green, btw. Let's make that clear right now

OMFG WHY IS THIS TOWN SO FUCKIFDASFDAFASDFASDNG IDIOTIC=P!?"!?!"?"!!"?)%¤"! RIFSKACSDGJMWEtpoh23

Congratulations, FT voters. You are sheeping this guy. Well done...


Well if you had voted for someone other than Mal it would not of even happened. You could of had Stutters or possibly even Rayn, but you insisted on Mal.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 22:14 GMT
#2506
On August 01 2013 07:13 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 07:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Corazon is also confirmed scum for not saying anything, not changing his vote, but still flinging shit on me for nothing.

I'm voting Malongo because he is scum. Is that not the same reason you are voting for FT?

You're hard defending Malongo by attacking FT. You're too afraid to see your scumbuddy flip because you will be the next to join him. That's what I think.


That's rubbish. A red Mal flip would not lead straight to Rayn lynch. A red Stutters flip would of gotten Rayn lynched, but you insisted on Mal.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 22:15 GMT
#2508
On August 01 2013 07:13 FirmTofu wrote:
hzflank, do you have any questions for me?


Sorry but there are too many town that are not actually trying to win. I wanted a Stutters or Cora lynch, but in the interest of winning the game I have to vote for you over Mal.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 22:16 GMT
#2510
I setup that Stutter/Rayn > Cora thing beautifully aswell, but no one would listen
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 22:20 GMT
#2521
On August 01 2013 07:19 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 07:15 hzflank wrote:
On August 01 2013 07:13 FirmTofu wrote:
hzflank, do you have any questions for me?


Sorry but there are too many town that are not actually trying to win. I wanted a Stutters or Cora lynch, but in the interest of winning the game I have to vote for you over Mal.

How about you vote for stutters and we try to lynch him instead of me. If it catches steam, we are good. If it doesn't, you can always switch back to me. Sound like a plan?


I already tried that, but if I split the votes it would of lead to a Mal lynch or a no lynch, so I had to move to you.

I don't know if you have fully caught up yet, but I explained everything earlier.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 22:23 GMT
#2528
On August 01 2013 07:21 justanothertownie wrote:
How many votes do we need? 6?


7
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 22:38 GMT
#2562
On August 01 2013 07:37 FirmTofu wrote:
Alright, I'll vote myself if you guys can convince me that killing me is better than the alternative. What does it give you that would make Day 3 more productive?

Remember, I know I am VT, so convince me based on this assumption.


If you do not vote for yourself then we get an extra mislynch. However, everyone will assume you are scum and the game will be put on hold for 72 hours, leaving us at a 5-4 LYLO instead of a 6-4 MYLO.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 22:40 GMT
#2565
On August 01 2013 07:37 Clarity_nl wrote:
Man majority games are hard.
Day 1 mislynch and townie dies night one and you need 7 out of 12 votes, where there are 4 scum.
So unless scum bus, lynching scum day 2 requires seven out of eight townies. Fuck me


The problem is not majority voting, it's majority vote combined with a 10/4 start. As I have said previously in this thread, town needs strong PRs to balance that setup..and I kind of blew mine (I still think that I needed to though).
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 31 2013 22:45 GMT
#2575
On August 01 2013 07:43 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 07:38 hzflank wrote:
On August 01 2013 07:37 FirmTofu wrote:
Alright, I'll vote myself if you guys can convince me that killing me is better than the alternative. What does it give you that would make Day 3 more productive?

Remember, I know I am VT, so convince me based on this assumption.


If you do not vote for yourself then we get an extra mislynch. However, everyone will assume you are scum and the game will be put on hold for 72 hours, leaving us at a 5-4 LYLO instead of a 6-4 MYLO.

Why would everyone assume I am scum? Aside from the fact that rayn thinks I'm scum, why should they revote me on Day 3? This particular bandwagon is just a panicky lynch that isn't based on anything in particular. I think I could sufficiently defend myself given more time and a rational argument.


You have already signed up for more games, have you not? How do you expect to properly defend yourself and lynch scum when you keep playing multiple games at the same time?

For example, if you had spent more time on this game instead of your others maybe we would be lynching Rayn right now instead of you. Sorry, if we do not lynch then town basically loses this game.

I am whining but fuck team games. I know 1v1 Mafia would not work but this is why I do not usually get competitive in team games :/
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