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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 14:43 GMT
#3948
If rayn, clarity or CJS would SOMEHOW be scum we have already lost. I don't think so.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 14:45 GMT
#3950
Let me think about that for a minute, ok? Right now it wouldn't really matter to me because they are both very very likely scum.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 15:37 GMT
#3971
So, I thought about the Koshi/FT question.
I'm torn. They both look very scummy to me. What throws me off is that I don't think Stutters and FT are on the same scum team so it is not as easy as it could be after this flip. This would mean Koshi would be a better target because he is scum in almost every possible scenario.
Still I read Stutters and Tofus Filter again and while Stutters does not look bad in my opinion FTs filter almost screams scum. Just look at his contribution since his almost-lynch - doesn't look very townie, does it?
Then there is this:
On August 03 2013 08:47 FirmTofu wrote:
Alright, this is where I stand.

If XRZ flips town:
I think it's probably JAT, Stutters, rayn/Clarity/Koshi.
rayn could be lying about the cop claim, but I'm deferring to hz's best judgement on this. I have to agree that no cop is pretty unlikely so until another claim comes up, rayn could still be town.

If XRZ flips scum:
I think it's probably CJS, JAT, Koshi, maybe Stutters.

When you look at his reads concerning a xrz town flip there is me (town - I know it is not obvious for you in this situation), Stutters (I'm not sure here) and especially this: rayn/clarity/Koshi.
It should DEFINITELY be Koshi and just Koshi. I don't know why he feels the need to add rayn and clarity here. Keep in mind this is his xrz town scenario. Total bullshit.

Since pre-flip stuff didn't work that well the last time I think I would slightly prefer a FT lynch. I would hate if we lost and he escaped the lynch 3 times while being scum.

But honestly I am still down for both a Koshi and a FT lynch.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 15:42 GMT
#3981
On August 05 2013 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 00:37 justanothertownie wrote:
So, I thought about the Koshi/FT question.
I'm torn. They both look very scummy to me. What throws me off is that I don't think Stutters and FT are on the same scum team so it is not as easy as it could be after this flip. This would mean Koshi would be a better target because he is scum in almost every possible scenario.
Still I read Stutters and Tofus Filter again and while Stutters does not look bad in my opinion FTs filter almost screams scum. Just look at his contribution since his almost-lynch - doesn't look very townie, does it?
Then there is this:
On August 03 2013 08:47 FirmTofu wrote:
Alright, this is where I stand.

If XRZ flips town:
I think it's probably JAT, Stutters, rayn/Clarity/Koshi.
rayn could be lying about the cop claim, but I'm deferring to hz's best judgement on this. I have to agree that no cop is pretty unlikely so until another claim comes up, rayn could still be town.

If XRZ flips scum:
I think it's probably CJS, JAT, Koshi, maybe Stutters.

When you look at his reads concerning a xrz town flip there is me (town - I know it is not obvious for you in this situation), Stutters (I'm not sure here) and especially this: rayn/clarity/Koshi.
It should DEFINITELY be Koshi and just Koshi. I don't know why he feels the need to add rayn and clarity here. Keep in mind this is his xrz town scenario. Total bullshit.

Since pre-flip stuff didn't work that well the last time I think I would slightly prefer a FT lynch. I would hate if we lost and he escaped the lynch 3 times while being scum.

But honestly I am still down for both a Koshi and a FT lynch.

I´m a bit puzzled over this post of yours because if FT and Stutters are both not scum, that means you kinda have to be scum?

They shouldn't be scum together that's what I meant.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 15:49 GMT
#3987
On August 05 2013 00:40 hzflank wrote:
If Rayn is town then Koshi and JAT are scum, with the remaining scum being FT or Stutters.

Oats, dont take it personally but I agreed with Clarity's assessment of you. You have not seemed to really push your scum reads enough to make me confident that you are town. You also attacked townies for their voting without seeming to consider that majority lynch forces voting to be different.

Doesn't matter though. I think that you are town based on what Rayne said, Based on Koshi being more scum, and also based on you not being attacked. If Koshi or JAT were town they should of hit you hard already on N3, but they did not.

Why does that mean I am scum? Maybe I just didn't want to make the same mistake of trying to name a whole scumteam again? Yes, oats being scum would be one possible solution for the current situation especially since scum obviously didn't take rayns claim seriously so oats is far from confirmed town but we should concentrate on one lynch target not three.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 15:53 GMT
#3989
On August 05 2013 00:49 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
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On August 05 2013 00:41 hzflank wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:39 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Stutters entrance in thread N3 screams scum.

Just like XRZ was scum and Malongo was 100% town. Right. I love how you point out only Stutters' entrance as being scummy when Koshi's entrance was way scummier and he only returned when there were 3 votes on him. That sounds like a defensive scum play to me.

Oats is town. The fact that he's not caring about anything is pretty consistent with his town meta. Don't get even farther off track with a possible Oats scum because it isn't possible.


If Oats is town then there are only 4 possible scum left. Do you see FT and Stutters both likely as being scum together?

I think it's very unlikely that FT and Stutters are on the same scumteam.

If I had to make a scumteam lineup, and I really hate to do this because it is stupid, I would put it at:

JAT/Stutters/Koshi/Malongo

There are way too many players that have played very similarly. It's the reason that we are facing MYLO (I think, I know we have one lynch left). These 4 players have all lurked at times, have not contributed to the scumhunt in a decent manner, and have generally been really useless for the entire game. Sure, their filters are long (most likely longer than mine), but they refuse to partake in discussion (especially over the last 2 days) and they refuse to weigh the circumstances of their vote. They just sheeped onto XRZ and allowed a townie to be lynched without giving it a second thought. Imagine if 2-3 players had been reading the thread and made an accurate decision instead of just going "It looks like XRZ is scum herp derp" and just agreeing with the same crappy heuristics that Rayn and company threw out.

Out of all of these players, I truly think Koshi is the scummiest and the most likely to flip scum should he be lynched. That's why I want to vote for him D4.

This just isn't true concerning me. If you read my filter you wouldn't say this.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 15:56 GMT
#3992
Well, you are wrong and I'm ok with both koshi and FT because if it's between FT and Stutters then I am fairly certain it's FT who is scum.
Oats is the most likely last scum but why do I have to push that if we only lynch one person today? Fine if you want to lynch Koshi you have my vote and I recall saying he is scum in almost any possible scenario so don't twist my words please.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 16:00 GMT
#3999
No, it is just that I thought what hz said (the whole speculation stuff) made sense at that time and if xrz was town it would come to the current situation which didn't made much sense to me because I know I'm not scum and there are only a few other possibilities none of which I really thought are likely so I figured xrz might be scum. It was bad reasoning but it was my reasoning.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 16:00 GMT
#4000
Last post was directed at CJS.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 16:06 GMT
#4010
On August 05 2013 01:03 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 01:00 justanothertownie wrote:
No, it is just that I thought what hz said (the whole speculation stuff) made sense at that time and if xrz was town it would come to the current situation which didn't made much sense to me because I know I'm not scum and there are only a few other possibilities none of which I really thought are likely so I figured xrz might be scum. It was bad reasoning but it was my reasoning.


So instead of thinking about your town read on XRZ for the first 2 days, you decided to 180 your read just off of what hz said?

Yes. I should add that it wasn't a very strong town read but in essence this is correct.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 16:11 GMT
#4012
On August 05 2013 01:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Trying to catch up on breaks at work since the thread popped a little. Oats is town because he doesn't give a shit. It's simple.

If he is scum he doesn't need to give a shit because town is heading towards a lose.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 16:13 GMT
#4014
On August 05 2013 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 01:04 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Literally the first half of D3 was persecuting XRZ with bad logic and the second half was "1/2/3/4 are scum, we're voting them next"

Worst. Lynch. Ever.
Ok that's the end of me talking about the XRZ lynch.

Actually we got quite a lot out of it.
- FirmTofu´s post regarding who is scum with/without XRZ was really horrible. There was zero logic in it.
- Koshi´s been bad and scummy throughout the game and i tried to lynch him on D1 and D2 (that´s also a reason i didn´t think Malongo was mafia). I don´t even bother to recheck the quotes/posts because everyone knows that´s a fact.
- JAT makes no sense with his logic right now. He says he does not think Stutters/FT are both scum but everyone else are town but Koshi. That kinda makes himself scum no?
- Stutters is still meh.. On the other hand he looks good for pushing same targets i have (mainly FT & Koshi eariler, D3 is irrelevant now), but then him sayin he voted for XRZ because of "pre-flip associations" is bullshit. The case was not a pre-flip association, definitely not. Other things on D3 were, but the case was not. Either way he didn´t even understand the case (so his vote makes no sense), or he is mafia who is now trying to justify his vote.

Please at least read what I'm saying. It is probably Koshi + FT/Stutters + oats right now.
But we can only lynch one of them.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 16:15 GMT
#4018
On August 05 2013 01:12 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 01:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2013 01:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Trying to catch up on breaks at work since the thread popped a little. Oats is town because he doesn't give a shit. It's simple.

If he is scum he doesn't need to give a shit because town is heading towards a lose.

Did you really just say this

Yes, I did. If you lynch me we lose. At the moment to me it looks like everyone is dead certain I'm scum.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 16:16 GMT
#4021
On August 05 2013 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAT do you think mafia has a godfather?

I don't know. Oats can be scum without being GF because as you said yourself scum did not believe you are cop.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 16:19 GMT
#4023
On August 05 2013 01:16 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 01:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2013 01:12 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 01:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2013 01:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Trying to catch up on breaks at work since the thread popped a little. Oats is town because he doesn't give a shit. It's simple.

If he is scum he doesn't need to give a shit because town is heading towards a lose.

Did you really just say this

Yes, I did. If you lynch me we lose. At the moment to me it looks like everyone is dead certain I'm scum.


Then why do you think it should be Stutter's job to convince us otherwise? That's your job. You have time as no one is currently advocating your day 4 lynch.

I never said it is stutters job. Yes, it is my job and yes we should lynch koshi and it looks like we will but this just leads to the same problem the next day.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 16:20 GMT
#4024
On August 05 2013 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 01:16 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2013 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAT do you think mafia has a godfather?

I don't know. Oats can be scum without being GF because as you said yourself scum did not believe you are cop.

Why exactly do you think Oats is mafia, and why is he more likely to be mafia than both Stutters&FT?

He is NOT more likely to be scum than both Stutters/FT wtf are you talking about? I think he is mafia because there are no other possibilities left besides stutters and tofu being on the same scum team.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 16:21 GMT
#4026
On August 05 2013 01:20 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 01:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2013 01:16 hzflank wrote:
On August 05 2013 01:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2013 01:12 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 01:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2013 01:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Trying to catch up on breaks at work since the thread popped a little. Oats is town because he doesn't give a shit. It's simple.

If he is scum he doesn't need to give a shit because town is heading towards a lose.

Did you really just say this

Yes, I did. If you lynch me we lose. At the moment to me it looks like everyone is dead certain I'm scum.


Then why do you think it should be Stutter's job to convince us otherwise? That's your job. You have time as no one is currently advocating your day 4 lynch.

I never said it is stutters job. Yes, it is my job and yes we should lynch koshi and it looks like we will but this just leads to the same problem the next day.


You thought that town was going to lose because we have no mislynches left and we think that you are scum.

You thought that Stutters should be in the thread helping town to not lose.


Therefore, you thought that it was Stutters job to help you.

When did I say this?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 16:25 GMT
#4029
I still don't get what you say. I was talking about oats in that quote.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 16:28 GMT
#4031
I will be away for a while (dinner) if you have any questions for me I will answer them when I'm back.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 18:06 GMT
#4066
On August 05 2013 03:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 05 2013 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 05 2013 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 05 2013 02:38 Koshi wrote:
XRZ lynch was made possible by your insane start on day 3. You fucked him up early and pushed him 24/7. I blame you for XRZ lynch.

You can´t blame me because you did nothing to stop my "insane push" but instead voted WITH me.

stop fighting rayn.............
What matters now? Lynching scum or boosting your ego?

I am pointing out an argument that makes no sense for town player to make.

it makes every sense for a town player to make.

You pushed the lynch. You lynched town.


If that's all you need you should take a look at hz. Lead the Paper mislynch and the xrz mislynch. But if he was scum we only have a cop and that's not very likely.
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