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justanothertownie
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justanothertownie
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I'm torn. They both look very scummy to me. What throws me off is that I don't think Stutters and FT are on the same scum team so it is not as easy as it could be after this flip. This would mean Koshi would be a better target because he is scum in almost every possible scenario. Still I read Stutters and Tofus Filter again and while Stutters does not look bad in my opinion FTs filter almost screams scum. Just look at his contribution since his almost-lynch - doesn't look very townie, does it? Then there is this: On August 03 2013 08:47 FirmTofu wrote: Alright, this is where I stand. If XRZ flips town: I think it's probably JAT, Stutters, rayn/Clarity/Koshi. rayn could be lying about the cop claim, but I'm deferring to hz's best judgement on this. I have to agree that no cop is pretty unlikely so until another claim comes up, rayn could still be town. If XRZ flips scum: I think it's probably CJS, JAT, Koshi, maybe Stutters. When you look at his reads concerning a xrz town flip there is me (town - I know it is not obvious for you in this situation), Stutters (I'm not sure here) and especially this: rayn/clarity/Koshi. It should DEFINITELY be Koshi and just Koshi. I don't know why he feels the need to add rayn and clarity here. Keep in mind this is his xrz town scenario. Total bullshit. Since pre-flip stuff didn't work that well the last time I think I would slightly prefer a FT lynch. I would hate if we lost and he escaped the lynch 3 times while being scum. But honestly I am still down for both a Koshi and a FT lynch. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On August 05 2013 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I´m a bit puzzled over this post of yours because if FT and Stutters are both not scum, that means you kinda have to be scum? They shouldn't be scum together that's what I meant. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On August 05 2013 00:40 hzflank wrote: If Rayn is town then Koshi and JAT are scum, with the remaining scum being FT or Stutters. Oats, dont take it personally but I agreed with Clarity's assessment of you. You have not seemed to really push your scum reads enough to make me confident that you are town. You also attacked townies for their voting without seeming to consider that majority lynch forces voting to be different. Doesn't matter though. I think that you are town based on what Rayne said, Based on Koshi being more scum, and also based on you not being attacked. If Koshi or JAT were town they should of hit you hard already on N3, but they did not. Why does that mean I am scum? Maybe I just didn't want to make the same mistake of trying to name a whole scumteam again? Yes, oats being scum would be one possible solution for the current situation especially since scum obviously didn't take rayns claim seriously so oats is far from confirmed town but we should concentrate on one lynch target not three. | ||
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On August 05 2013 00:49 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: I think it's very unlikely that FT and Stutters are on the same scumteam. If I had to make a scumteam lineup, and I really hate to do this because it is stupid, I would put it at: JAT/Stutters/Koshi/Malongo There are way too many players that have played very similarly. It's the reason that we are facing MYLO (I think, I know we have one lynch left). These 4 players have all lurked at times, have not contributed to the scumhunt in a decent manner, and have generally been really useless for the entire game. Sure, their filters are long (most likely longer than mine), but they refuse to partake in discussion (especially over the last 2 days) and they refuse to weigh the circumstances of their vote. They just sheeped onto XRZ and allowed a townie to be lynched without giving it a second thought. Imagine if 2-3 players had been reading the thread and made an accurate decision instead of just going "It looks like XRZ is scum herp derp" and just agreeing with the same crappy heuristics that Rayn and company threw out. Out of all of these players, I truly think Koshi is the scummiest and the most likely to flip scum should he be lynched. That's why I want to vote for him D4. This just isn't true concerning me. If you read my filter you wouldn't say this. | ||
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justanothertownie
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Oats is the most likely last scum but why do I have to push that if we only lynch one person today? Fine if you want to lynch Koshi you have my vote and I recall saying he is scum in almost any possible scenario so don't twist my words please. | ||
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On August 05 2013 01:03 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: So instead of thinking about your town read on XRZ for the first 2 days, you decided to 180 your read just off of what hz said? Yes. I should add that it wasn't a very strong town read but in essence this is correct. | ||
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On August 05 2013 01:05 Stutters695 wrote: Trying to catch up on breaks at work since the thread popped a little. Oats is town because he doesn't give a shit. It's simple. If he is scum he doesn't need to give a shit because town is heading towards a lose. | ||
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On August 05 2013 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually we got quite a lot out of it. - FirmTofu´s post regarding who is scum with/without XRZ was really horrible. There was zero logic in it. - Koshi´s been bad and scummy throughout the game and i tried to lynch him on D1 and D2 (that´s also a reason i didn´t think Malongo was mafia). I don´t even bother to recheck the quotes/posts because everyone knows that´s a fact. - JAT makes no sense with his logic right now. He says he does not think Stutters/FT are both scum but everyone else are town but Koshi. That kinda makes himself scum no? - Stutters is still meh.. On the other hand he looks good for pushing same targets i have (mainly FT & Koshi eariler, D3 is irrelevant now), but then him sayin he voted for XRZ because of "pre-flip associations" is bullshit. The case was not a pre-flip association, definitely not. Other things on D3 were, but the case was not. Either way he didn´t even understand the case (so his vote makes no sense), or he is mafia who is now trying to justify his vote. Please at least read what I'm saying. It is probably Koshi + FT/Stutters + oats right now. But we can only lynch one of them. | ||
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justanothertownie
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Yes, I did. If you lynch me we lose. At the moment to me it looks like everyone is dead certain I'm scum. | ||
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On August 05 2013 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: JAT do you think mafia has a godfather? I don't know. Oats can be scum without being GF because as you said yourself scum did not believe you are cop. | ||
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On August 05 2013 01:16 hzflank wrote: Then why do you think it should be Stutter's job to convince us otherwise? That's your job. You have time as no one is currently advocating your day 4 lynch. I never said it is stutters job. Yes, it is my job and yes we should lynch koshi and it looks like we will but this just leads to the same problem the next day. | ||
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On August 05 2013 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why exactly do you think Oats is mafia, and why is he more likely to be mafia than both Stutters&FT? He is NOT more likely to be scum than both Stutters/FT wtf are you talking about? I think he is mafia because there are no other possibilities left besides stutters and tofu being on the same scum team. | ||
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On August 05 2013 01:20 hzflank wrote: You thought that town was going to lose because we have no mislynches left and we think that you are scum. You thought that Stutters should be in the thread helping town to not lose. Therefore, you thought that it was Stutters job to help you. When did I say this? | ||
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On August 05 2013 03:01 Oatsmaster wrote: it makes every sense for a town player to make. You pushed the lynch. You lynched town. If that's all you need you should take a look at hz. Lead the Paper mislynch and the xrz mislynch. But if he was scum we only have a cop and that's not very likely. | ||
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