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On July 26 2013 04:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So lazer, we need to consolidate on 2/3 players and you bring up 5. rofl, what's that?
Currently:
Sylencia
Koshi There is a diference though. I would really want to kill stutters but I don't see him as a realistic lynch for today. Sylencia might not be optimal either, at least if what ShiaoPi writes is correct i.e. that he ups his play the longer the game goes. I think todays lynch is between Firmtofu or Artanis.
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On July 26 2013 04:44 Stutters695 wrote:
I honestly don't get Lazer's hard on for lynching me. Whatever, I really doubt that will happen.
Now in terms of what can happen today:
Malongo (vig or lynch plz)
Lazer: Despite saying his reason for lynching me over Syl was bad still wants to lynch me first. He's also failed to demonstrate how my actions are scummy outside of policy talk early on. Combined with him deciding his lynch choice off of who is less lynch bait rather than demonstrably scummy is concerning.
Not really sure on a third yet.
I didn't say my reasons for lynching you over Syl was bad though. I said that my reason BESIDES the lynch bait point was bad. But the lynch bait point isn't bad. Look at Sylencias profile, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Sylencia. He really has been lynched ALOT as town. And as a player that actually led the lynch on him, I can say that his play this game isn't extremly different from the other.
Also, why am I scum for attacking you with "bad" arguments? Are scum more inclined to use "bad" arguments?
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On July 26 2013 04:47 Rainbows wrote:
everyone is so butthurt about people finding them scummy. lol. Word.
This really needs to go away. I am having at least three people that I can think of on top of my head that is suspecting me JUST because I attacked them Lol. You guys needs to realize that wrong=/=scum...
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After reading through the last couple of pages I am strating to like Koshi more and more. My impression of his play is that he is very genuine. He is so honest about saying stuff that he thinks that he says stuff that is "bad". But really, you shouldn't put too much weigh into words. I do say stupid stuff like that ALL the time as town just because I am less likely to care about having a good image in the thread. Scum are way more reluctant about stuff that could potentially cause them to look bad. I also think his suspicions on Artanis makes sense.
I might actually switch over to Artanis, I think I'd rather see him hang than Sylencia and FT...
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On July 26 2013 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 05:00 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 04:47 Rainbows wrote:
everyone is so butthurt about people finding them scummy. lol. Word. This really needs to go away. I am having at least three people that I can think of on top of my head that is suspecting me JUST because I attacked them Lol. You guys needs to realize that wrong=/=scum... And you here are saying you are accusing townies? You just got onto my list of justice. Are you fucking stupid? No matter what alignment they have they will have to play from the PoV that I'm accusing a townie, right?
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Rayn, if it comes down to Artanis vs FT, who will you vote for?
I'm guessing FT after looking at your filter. But you hardly mention Artanis at all, the only thing you say (and rightfully so) about him is that he is jerking off Dandel...
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Well, I didn't say that the lynch were between you and FT, I said I thought it would be between you two. But we really need to consolidate and if you are not confident in todays candidates you really should try the hardest you can to find someone else you think is scummier and push him. Because right now you've done nothing pretty much.
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On July 26 2013 05:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Right now, I want to lynch Lazer because he seems to be putting a lot of effort into not stepping on people's toes and making sure that the lynch doesn't go in his direction in any case.##Vote: Lazermonkey LOL you realize I've been the one to step on almost everyone's toes. You on the other hand...
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EBWOP: And how the fuck does me not wanting myself to die make me scum?
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On July 26 2013 05:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 05:29 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 05:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 26 2013 05:23 Rainbows wrote:
Artanis who should we hang today? Right now, I want to lynch Lazer because he seems to be putting a lot of effort into not stepping on people's toes and making sure that the lynch doesn't go in his direction in any case.##Vote: Lazermonkey LOL you realize I've been the one to step on almost everyone's toes. You on the other hand... You've been acting as the thread moderator for the past few pages. And that makes me scum how? If you actually looked through my filter you would've seen that I've been stepping on alot of toes. That's why alot of guys are suspecting me. Alot of nuubs being angry when I say their play is scummy. You don't say jack shit, just jumo on the most popular wagon yet not pushing it even a centimeter foreward. And unlike them, you aren't a nuub.
Plz die.
##Unvote
##Vote: Artanis[Xp]
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On July 26 2013 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis what's your stance on Syl/Koshi?
Lazer, have you seen Koshi play scum? Your townread on him is based on extremely weak and wrong reasons. No I haven't, have you?
Why are they weak and wrong?
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On July 26 2013 05:41 Z-BosoN wrote:Lazermonkey you originally said sylencia was lynchbait and didn't feel compelled to dwelve into him: Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 04:06 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hmyhea, Sylencia looks bad. No scum hunting at all. Sadely he is somewhat of a lynch bait. I managed to get him killed D1 once as scum : /. But he really need to step up his posting. And thus your vote was on stutters, because he was less of a lynch bait: Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 05:13 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm getting tired of this... Half of the game this far is almost entierly useless setup speculation. Sure, FT is looking bad but he is AFK right now. Stutters has 1(!) post where he scum hunts. The rest is setup talk, policy talk, defending some dudes when they were in no danger of getting lynched. And his only post worth of scum hunting is bad. I tell him to talk about something else and he continues to talk policy. My guess is that he is trying to appear contributing. He is also avoiding all conflicts by never taking arguement with anyone.
##unvote
##vote: stutters
Everyone else, give your opinion on stutters please! And then you had an exchange with sylencia and now you feel he's scum, and stutters is of no interest to you anymore. But you don't want to push sylencia's lynch, saying that you think the lynch will be between FT and Artanis. Can you be specific as to why you changed your mind on stutters and can you take a stance on sylencia? You are being incredibly wishy-washy on him. What? You got it all wrong... I never dropped my stutters scum read Lol. Reread my filter.
I'm still somewhat suspicious of Sylencia but I'm willing to give him BOTD because he is generally a lynch bait + ShiaoPi says he plays better later on.
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On July 26 2013 05:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 05:37 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 05:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 26 2013 05:29 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 05:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 26 2013 05:23 Rainbows wrote:
Artanis who should we hang today? Right now, I want to lynch Lazer because he seems to be putting a lot of effort into not stepping on people's toes and making sure that the lynch doesn't go in his direction in any case.##Vote: Lazermonkey LOL you realize I've been the one to step on almost everyone's toes. You on the other hand... You've been acting as the thread moderator for the past few pages. And that makes me scum how? If you actually looked through my filter you would've seen that I've been stepping on alot of toes. That's why alot of guys are suspecting me. Alot of nuubs being angry when I say their play is scummy. You don't say jack shit, just jumo on the most popular wagon yet not pushing it even a centimeter foreward. And unlike them, you aren't a nuub. Plz die. ##Unvote
##Vote: Artanis[Xp] That makes you scum because it's an easy place for scum to sit. You can control the lynch to make sure no scum comes close to being lynched, whereas a town player isn't interested in being friends with everyone but rather actually wants to find scum. Also, since when are you a leading wagon? I see one vote on you and it's from Sylencia. What the hell are you talking about? Lol so you cannot actually think of any reason what so ever for a townie to try to controll the thread? Really? You aren't this stupid. And wtf are you talking about? I'm NOT friends with everyone. You are just saying stuff without a single fact to back it up. Yes, one vote (two with you) but if you actually did read the thread you would've seen that alot of people have called me scummy during the course of the game.
You are just saying so much BS right now. If you are town I'm geniunely disappointed.
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Everyone, please give your opnion on Artanis...
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On July 26 2013 05:53 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 04:59 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 04:44 Stutters695 wrote:
I honestly don't get Lazer's hard on for lynching me. Whatever, I really doubt that will happen.
Now in terms of what can happen today:
Malongo (vig or lynch plz)
Lazer: Despite saying his reason for lynching me over Syl was bad still wants to lynch me first. He's also failed to demonstrate how my actions are scummy outside of policy talk early on. Combined with him deciding his lynch choice off of who is less lynch bait rather than demonstrably scummy is concerning.
Not really sure on a third yet.
I didn't say my reasons for lynching you over Syl was bad though. I said that my reason BESIDES the lynch bait point was bad. But the lynch bait point isn't bad. Look at Sylencias profile, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Sylencia. He really has been lynched ALOT as town. And as a player that actually led the lynch on him, I can say that his play this game isn't extremly different from the other. Also, why am I scum for attacking you with "bad" arguments? Are scum more inclined to use "bad" arguments? Because your arguments aren't trying to show a scum mindset because you know I'm town. I'd honestly consider you as my top lynch now after this response. Note the blatant contradiction: His reasons for thinking I'm scum are bad except for that I'm a better lynch than Syl because Syl is lynch bait. A reasonable assumption, except that for something as abstract as lynch bait being the deciding factor he has to think we're both scummy. Yet he just said that his only good reason for lynching me is that Syl is lynch bait. What? No, I have alot of reasons to lynch you besides the lynch bait thing. But you don't read thread/is stupid/scum so you wouldn't understand... The reason I phrased it like that is because rayn asked me why I was voting you and not Sylencia because your play was very similar (something I agree with). My response was that Sylencia is a lynch bait and you are not therefore I would be more confident in killing you. So you see, if you actually start reading, it all makes sense.
Now stop being mad because I wanted to lynch you and comment on Artanis...
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On July 26 2013 06:15 Z-BosoN wrote:
Well, to be honest I actually think artanis is town.
Scum are generally careful about what they say in thread and how don't want to stick their necks out.
He earlier said that "one of firm/rayn" is likely scum.
Then out of the blue he decided that Lazer, someone who he didn't even mention in his filter, is a scumread.
Then he gives town reads on people who earlier he said were town
If I were scum the last thing I'd want to do is antagonize one of the most active people in the thread
Look at Artanis play this far though. His vote on me is the first time he sticks his neck out what so ever. He basically haven't taken a conflict before this. Like Rayn said earlier, sure attacking easy targets are easy in the short perspective but in the long run, attacking more vocal players will probably be more effective.
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On July 26 2013 06:21 Koshi wrote:
Agreed. I like it that Artanis came out to play. So much more fun.
So. Let's find another target. I think I will be petty and look at rayn and Malongo for repeatedly trying to shift focus to me. Not that I can blame them, I am looking pretty bad.
I still got a bad feeling about that whole shooting/not shooting thingie. What tha? So Artanis comes back and you suddenly don't think he is scum anymore?
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On July 26 2013 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also we are not lynching Artanis or Lazermonkey. Exactly why are we not lynching Artanis?
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On July 26 2013 07:19 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 07:15 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 06:21 Koshi wrote:
Agreed. I like it that Artanis came out to play. So much more fun.
So. Let's find another target. I think I will be petty and look at rayn and Malongo for repeatedly trying to shift focus to me. Not that I can blame them, I am looking pretty bad.
I still got a bad feeling about that whole shooting/not shooting thingie. What tha? So Artanis comes back and you suddenly don't think he is scum anymore? My vote is still on him. But I would not bet monies on Artanis being scum if I had 4:1 odds. Or is it 1:4? I am no bookmaker. Let me rephrase, who do you want to kill the most?
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