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On July 23 2013 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 06:26 jrkirby wrote: I don't see anything that's a red flag yet, but Zephirdd didn't post at all day 1 right? So I don't have enough to go off of yet. That's pretty interesting because you semmed to have 2 scumreads on D1... What's changed?
What do you mean? I still think Oats is scum, and I still haven't gotten to tangengs filter. I can't spend too much time on this at work, cause I kinda also gotta get work done
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On July 23 2013 09:42 Oatsmaster wrote:rayn scum guys. Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 21 2013 08:00 FirmTofu wrote:On July 20 2013 23:00 TanGeng wrote: FiveTouch is Marv/VE? We must lynch this Redville scum and take revenge for the mayor!!!
Down with FirmTofu!!!! Up with SilkenTofu!!! Constructively discussing? Are we dreaming about a different type of forum mafia. If we wanted constructive discussion, might as well lop off about 24 hours of time and get closer to the voting deadline. Beginning of games is always fluffy and I like fluffy.
Fluff=bad You get scum points, sir. On July 21 2013 03:32 getmoript wrote:On July 21 2013 03:00 FiveTouch wrote: It's a very real fake vote meant to express my willingness to fake-lynch rayn. Sup?
Also geript no, I'm not on right now. I'll probably be on later though, in case you...you know...had anything you wanted to say. You wanna say something alignment indicative for me. Because otherwise I really want to lynch you because both Hydras can't be town. Why can't both hydras be town? You get scum points, sir. On July 21 2013 04:02 getmoript wrote:On July 21 2013 04:00 FiveTouch wrote:On July 21 2013 03:43 getmoript wrote:On July 21 2013 03:35 FiveTouch wrote: Apart from anything else we're a replacement. So it's just full on retarded straight up.
And creating some false dichotomy based on nothing. Yuk yuk yuk.
~marv I'm not talking to you Marv. I can't read you for shit. As a matter of fact I don't think I've played a game with you other than the other hydra game. Put VE back on the line. You're serious? You say something horrendous and then just say you're not going to interact with me? How about some motivation, because you're being disgusting so far. ##Vote: getmoript Are you an idiot Marv or just scum? I told you I can't read you versus shit. I read people far better when I've followed/played in more games with them. Hell I still don't have a read on you in Ver's game. You just mad because I'm more gay ripped than you? Why would you want to glean information from only one half of the hydra? Why are you asking for less information to work with? You get scum points, sir. On July 21 2013 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah WoS, i am scum, what was the point of your question?
I don't think there is anything scummy in thread atm. Just stopped working and read the thread. Lemme drink a couple of beers so i can start playing. ^^
Oats why are you so silent? You claimed scum. You get scum points, sir. On July 21 2013 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think Austin is town. I am so confused. You think Austin is town but you don't explain what makes you think that why. Why say it at all? You get scum points, sir. I already asked but i'll ask you again. How do these points you bring up make me (or anyone else you mentioned) scum? To show i am serious: ##Vote: FirmTofuBringing up random quotes from random people with calling them scummy without a follow up or better explanation. Weird pressure vote which doesnt have any stuff in it how firmtofu is scum. Nothing. Just OMGUS. Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 05:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Seems like he is trying to figure shit out. I don't think his vote on you is good though. Anything specific you see there? Also his points calling FiveTouch scum are pretty bad, but i can understand them from town pov. Also, so firmtofu cant make a bad case but this dude can? Double standerds = scum. Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: And how thae fuck FirmTofu is "the easiest target" in game? getmoript for example has 2 votes. Yeah no, since when has the number of votes on a dude = to easiest target? Why does rayn even give a fuck that firmtofu is the easiest target? Why does town rayn care whether FirmTofu is an easy target or not? Rayn then says that a lynch is always preferable to nolynch for scum, so therefore TG is scum right? Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 07:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 23 2013 07:11 FiveTouch wrote: That's just your opinion though rayn and you can't profess to know what the scumteam's opinion on the matter is unless you're on the scumteam right?
From my perspective, a no-lynch is an INCREDIBLE boon for the scumteam, ESPECIALLY if TG is town. Because now everyone's eyes are on TG for TOMORROW'S lynch right? By DEFAULT.
But anyway, that's just MY opinion, and it's regarding DocH who is either replacing out or getting modkilled or providing further content later, so it's whatever. Fair enough. I understand your pov, i just disagree. :D My eyes are not on TG, at least fully. I'm far more interested in lynching Oats. I don't even know why people voted for TanGeng. For being useless? um nope. Contradictions everywhere.
In other news, Cora didnt even address me at all, so he didnt read the thread. He doesnt push anyone. All in all, a horrible opening post.
I've seen town do pretty much all of the things you've mentioned. Now that doesn't make rayn automatically town, but... I haven't seen town say "don't kill me" and tunnel someone without giving a reason for a whole day. Even in my last game where I was tunneled so hardcore as town, the person tunneling me (who was also town) at least gave a couple reasons when he made his case.
But at least you've finally given some reasons. Took you long enough.
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So the guy oatsmaster wanted dead is dead, hmmm. If oatsmaster were really taking this seriously, I might think this a sign that he's not scum. But he's not, so I still think that he's scum.
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Of course it's still kinda WIFOM, but Oats has still been acting scum.
##Vote Oatsmaster
Of course I'm open to opinions, but I think oats is still the scummiest guy in this game.
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+ Show Spoiler +Ok, I've finally read up on the thread. Sorry guys, it's been a combination of lazy/tired/busy at work, and I don't post unless I've read the entire thread in chronological order. I kinda deserve all these scumreads on me because I've just been afk pretty much all day 2 ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) .
A lot has happened during this day, so many blue claims. I'm gonna try to sum up all the claims, and if I've misread one or missed one, you guys be sure to tell me, right?
Getmoript has claimed cop, and claim to have gotten the alignment of TheAwesomeAll to be scum. Tangeng has claim VT and claimed that he's been roleblocked. Meanwhile Corazon has claimed that he's rolecop, but was unsure of his sanity and he checked himself (and got back rolecop?). Then TheAwesomeAll claims roleblocker, and claims that he's roleblocked Tangeng. Also somewhere in there Onegu claimed vigilante?
Right now most of the town is on TAA because getmoript has a claimed redcheck on him. If this redcheck turns false of course we lynch him next, but at the moment the consensus is to lynch TAA, especially because of his roleblocker claim. (perhaps he was bluefishing or trying to save himself).
Seems like the correct choice of action for me is to solidify the lynch on TAA, as he's probably scum, and if he's not, then getmoript is guaranteed scum (with the exception of firmtofu's logic).
##Unvote ##Vote: TheAwesomeAll
Honestly I don't like all these blue claims. Why on earth did Corazon claim? And Onegu? Claiming didn't help town at all. I kinda understand getmoript's claim: if you find scum let people know. And TAA I think was trying to avoid a lynch, I personally would only do that at the last minute if I were town (to let people know who you roleblocked).
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On July 25 2013 09:10 Onegu wrote: @ Jkirby if you had a vigi shot tonight who would you shoot and why?
If I had a vig shot, I'd shoot oats. There's been like one post I read that sounded towny to me, but everything else sounded scum.
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On July 23 2013 21:35 Onegu wrote: 1 shot night vigi ^
Onegu, why did you claim this? This is the worst role to claim if you're town, unless you've seen a mafia roleblocker die, and plan to shoot that night. even then, it's still ill advised.
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On July 25 2013 09:58 austinmcc wrote: jrkirby, if every player in the game was a panda, which two pandas would you mate together to save the panda species and why? (Hydras count as one panda) WTF is up with these animal metaphors? Are you asking which people I think are on the same team?
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God, I hope TAA is the mafia RB. Then Onegu can shoot and become confirmed town.
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On July 25 2013 10:05 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 10:01 jrkirby wrote:On July 25 2013 09:58 austinmcc wrote: jrkirby, if every player in the game was a panda, which two pandas would you mate together to save the panda species and why? (Hydras count as one panda) WTF is up with these animal metaphors? Are you asking which people I think are on the same team? No. If they were pandas, which two would you mate. If you only want to mate same-team pandas, that's fine, it's part of the why. This makes no sense, I'm not a zookeeper, and it doesn't help the thread. Ask me something about the thread.
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Ok, onegu, I saw your explanation about why you claimed vigi, but it's terrible. Don't ever do this again as town.
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JJD, I'd have to see some more flips and then look through Firm's filter for clues to think he's scum. Yeah, he's said some things that sound unlikely (like getmoript might be VT), but I don't see anything damning.
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On July 25 2013 10:06 Onegu wrote: WTF!?!?! What is this WTF about?
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Hey, if TAA is mafia RB, you just might be able to vindicate yourself.
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Oh, god, I think JJD might be right about firmtofu, pending the red TAA flip. He defends TAA at first when he thinks that TAA has a chance at defending himself. Then, I'm speculating that TAA went against his discretion with the blue claim, and firmtofu decided to bus him.
The reason why are the circumstances of voting:
On July 24 2013 07:52 FirmTofu wrote: I'm not going to make a quoted point-by-point post about cDg because my scumread is not as strong as the other two.
His conversation with Oats made me think he was scummy because of how irrational his approach was. I still don't understand why you would check yourself for sanity when it barely tells you anything. You should be checking others, not yourself. You can figure out whether you're sane based on their flips and you get a plethora of useful information.
While I think getmoript may be lying about his claim, I think he is more likely to be a VT pushing a strong scum read in TAA.
I cannot think of a single good reason why cDg would claim as town given a getmoript claim unless he started to speculate upon roles.
That being said, I would much prefer to lynch jrkirby or TG today. I think we should hold of on lynching potential blues unless we are certain that one of them is scum.
Bold is his. He doesn't want to lynch potential blues. But once TAA claims to be blue, he's definitely a potential blue. So firmtofu voting him after saying this is a direct contradiction, i.e. a lie.
On the otherhand, if TAA flips town, then I think firmtofu just made a logic misstep/mistake, and actually is town. Him being mafia only makes sense if he were defending mafia.
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Honestly, I'm leaning a bit towards town on him right now. Although I would have considered lynching him if I had the chance day 1, not much of his day 1 filter is that terrible. Honestly I don't think the day 1 case on him was really all that great, but then, it's really rare to have a great day 1 case that has any chance of going through.
If I looked at this game from an objective standpoint (if I were obs), the only reason I'd think he's scum is if I were scum, because of how the day 1 votes turned out. Unfortunately, the rest of the town doesn't know I'm not scum, but I do. Also, depending on how things turn out with flips of TAA, and who the roleblocker is, I might change my mind. But as of now, I don't think he's any more suspicious than, say, jarjardrinks.
(jarjardrinks didn't claim anything, did he? I remember reading something about that, but I don't recall if that was just speculation or something)
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Yeah, TAA, if you're town, you better post final reads before you die please.
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On July 22 2013 11:48 TanGeng wrote: in getript we trust. unvoted.
On July 22 2013 13:35 TanGeng wrote: Don't lynch me. It really was trying to stir up some activity. I'm trying to help out town and austin just jumped all over me.
These are both bad posts from day 1. But he did try scumhunting day 1 a bit, and usually the town's day 1 reads are bad. Thus because the town BW him on day 1, I think there's a decent chance he's town. Saying that he's scum kinda implies that scum were either bussing him and failed, or they somehow knew me and DrH wouldn't switch onto him. Since I don't currently have a scumread on onegu, and I know that I'm town, I feel that it's unlikely that TG is scum.
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On July 22 2013 14:14 TanGeng wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 13:38 getmoript wrote: Convince me you're town. Who do you think is scum and why? My top suspicions are actually Tofu & Rayne. Tofu for trying to opening up ultra townie and then flinging shit around. Rayne is more of a gut feeling for those series of one liners to Tofu instead of real analysis. I wanted to follow up on Rayne but it looks like he's off. Honestly I don't know who to vote at the moment for because the day one voting volume has been so low, it's hard to pick up on anything. Doesn't look like there will be much more before the deadline so: ##vote: FirmTofu
This is scumhunting, in my opinion. He was definitely wrong on rayne, but really, scumhunting is hard day 1.
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