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FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 27 2013 21:45 GMT
#2081
As I said before, I claimed based on a set time period. 12:00 PST. It has nothing to do with anything that was happening at the time.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 27 2013 21:46 GMT
#2082
@Vivax

What is your read on Tofu?
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 27 2013 21:49 GMT
#2083
On July 28 2013 06:44 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 06:40 cDgCorazon wrote:
On July 28 2013 06:38 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 28 2013 06:35 cDgCorazon wrote:
On July 28 2013 06:34 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 28 2013 06:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I wish this all would have happened yesterday so there'd be more time to reread stuff to see if I really believe these claims. I'm leaning towards legit because it'd be so outlandish for scum to do something like this,

If u 2 guys are telling truths. then there's a fullproof way to see if cora is legit. Submit your own name tonight. According to cora u wont get town or scum, it'll say investigator or whatever it was he said.

Instead of all of us wasting our checks... why don't we lynch Cora and see what our cop sanity is based on his flip? that way we'll know whether the two cops can find scum the following night.

It's a win-win.

Why don't we lynch the fake-claiming scum member?
The fact that you only want to lynch me for info is pretty scummy, man.

You still haven't explained why you think I'm fake-claiming. I mean, to you, I should be just as likely a fake-claimer as 5T. The only difference being that people might actually vote me.


On July 28 2013 06:13 cDgCorazon wrote:
BTW, is it weird that FirmTofu's claim only comes after jrkirby gets 2 votes in quick succession? That's pretty convenient...


So your whole case against me rests on the timing. Holy hypocrisy. You think the timing of your claim isn't scummy when it brought getmoript's claim and accusation of TAA into question, but when I claim as kirby is gaining votes, I'm suddenly scum?

I was counter-claiming Getmoript. I literally did it about 2 minutes after his claim. You're saying that you are trying to counter-claim me 2 DAYS after my claim.

It's also pretty scummy that you refuse to lynch the guy you've wanted dead for the entire game and would rather vote for me.

My question to you is: do you want to lynch Kirby? Why or why not?
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 27 2013 21:58 GMT
#2084
On July 24 2013 06:22 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 06:21 FiveTouch wrote:
On July 24 2013 06:21 cDgCorazon wrote:
On July 24 2013 06:20 FiveTouch wrote:
How do you like this claim, Cora?


He's lying. I'm a detective.


Are you serious?

Are you sane? (as in, cop sane)


I'm pretty sure I'm sane. I checked myself to check for sanity and it said I came back a "detective" so I'm guessing I must be sane.


A few things about you, Cora.

- You claim you have a role PM where you don't know if you're rolecop or alignment cop. Getmoript had one that suggested alignment.
- In a rolecop PM, you have the sanity comment, which doesn't fit.
- When you get back detective as result, you say getmoript is lying for claiming ALIGNMENT cop, when you knew you were ROLECOP, but say there can't be two sane cops and hence getmo is scum. Can you explain this part to me, cause either it was really awful play or your claim is purposeful bs.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 27 2013 22:02 GMT
#2085
On July 28 2013 06:58 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 06:22 cDgCorazon wrote:
On July 24 2013 06:21 FiveTouch wrote:
On July 24 2013 06:21 cDgCorazon wrote:
On July 24 2013 06:20 FiveTouch wrote:
How do you like this claim, Cora?


He's lying. I'm a detective.


Are you serious?

Are you sane? (as in, cop sane)


I'm pretty sure I'm sane. I checked myself to check for sanity and it said I came back a "detective" so I'm guessing I must be sane.


A few things about you, Cora.

- You claim you have a role PM where you don't know if you're rolecop or alignment cop. Getmoript had one that suggested alignment.
- In a rolecop PM, you have the sanity comment, which doesn't fit.
- When you get back detective as result, you say getmoript is lying for claiming ALIGNMENT cop, when you knew you were ROLECOP, but say there can't be two sane cops and hence getmo is scum. Can you explain this part to me, cause either it was really awful play or your claim is purposeful bs.

My role pm is the same as Getmoript's and the hosts basically said that I couldn't check myself for sanity and they just gave me back a non-alignment check (investiagtor worded exactly like that). So I said I was a role cop. Then I checked TG and then it came back as Town.

The hosts basically screwed me over, and if you want to lynch me I will blame them.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 27 2013 22:03 GMT
#2086
@Vivax

Your Tofu opinions, plz.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 27 2013 22:08 GMT
#2087
On July 28 2013 07:02 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 06:58 Vivax wrote:
On July 24 2013 06:22 cDgCorazon wrote:
On July 24 2013 06:21 FiveTouch wrote:
On July 24 2013 06:21 cDgCorazon wrote:
On July 24 2013 06:20 FiveTouch wrote:
How do you like this claim, Cora?


He's lying. I'm a detective.


Are you serious?

Are you sane? (as in, cop sane)


I'm pretty sure I'm sane. I checked myself to check for sanity and it said I came back a "detective" so I'm guessing I must be sane.


A few things about you, Cora.

- You claim you have a role PM where you don't know if you're rolecop or alignment cop. Getmoript had one that suggested alignment.
- In a rolecop PM, you have the sanity comment, which doesn't fit.
- When you get back detective as result, you say getmoript is lying for claiming ALIGNMENT cop, when you knew you were ROLECOP, but say there can't be two sane cops and hence getmo is scum. Can you explain this part to me, cause either it was really awful play or your claim is purposeful bs.

My role pm is the same as Getmoript's and the hosts basically said that I couldn't check myself for sanity and they just gave me back a non-alignment check (investiagtor worded exactly like that). So I said I was a role cop. Then I checked TG and then it came back as Town.

The hosts basically screwed me over, and if you want to lynch me I will blame them.


That's cool and all, but it still doesn't answer the question why you claimed that geript was lying about being an alignment cop when at the time you had to believe you were a rolecop, making getmo's cop claim not as incredible as you claim you thought it was.

Like, I understand you can't answer it, cause the point makes you look like scum regardless, but it's a valid point in arguing that you actually just fakeclaimed to save TAA.

Other than that, I'm curious to hear from your mouth that you think that TG wasn't lynched only cause scum played badly or was afk.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 27 2013 22:09 GMT
#2088
@VE

I still like 3 unknown sanity cop variety more than the 4. But I think tofu is likeliest fake claim.

Are you available to read a filter?
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 27 2013 22:10 GMT
#2089
@JJD & jrkirby
Stop lurking!!!
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 27 2013 22:11 GMT
#2090
On July 28 2013 07:08 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 07:02 cDgCorazon wrote:
On July 28 2013 06:58 Vivax wrote:
On July 24 2013 06:22 cDgCorazon wrote:
On July 24 2013 06:21 FiveTouch wrote:
On July 24 2013 06:21 cDgCorazon wrote:
On July 24 2013 06:20 FiveTouch wrote:
How do you like this claim, Cora?


He's lying. I'm a detective.


Are you serious?

Are you sane? (as in, cop sane)


I'm pretty sure I'm sane. I checked myself to check for sanity and it said I came back a "detective" so I'm guessing I must be sane.


A few things about you, Cora.

- You claim you have a role PM where you don't know if you're rolecop or alignment cop. Getmoript had one that suggested alignment.
- In a rolecop PM, you have the sanity comment, which doesn't fit.
- When you get back detective as result, you say getmoript is lying for claiming ALIGNMENT cop, when you knew you were ROLECOP, but say there can't be two sane cops and hence getmo is scum. Can you explain this part to me, cause either it was really awful play or your claim is purposeful bs.

My role pm is the same as Getmoript's and the hosts basically said that I couldn't check myself for sanity and they just gave me back a non-alignment check (investiagtor worded exactly like that). So I said I was a role cop. Then I checked TG and then it came back as Town.

The hosts basically screwed me over, and if you want to lynch me I will blame them.


That's cool and all, but it still doesn't answer the question why you claimed that geript was lying about being an alignment cop when at the time you had to believe you were a rolecop, making getmo's cop claim not as incredible as you claim you thought it was.

Like, I understand you can't answer it, cause the point makes you look like scum regardless, but it's a valid point in arguing that you actually just fakeclaimed to save TAA.

Other than that, I'm curious to hear from your mouth that you think that TG wasn't lynched only cause scum played badly or was afk.

BECAUSE WHY ARE 2 TOWN COPS IN A SETUP COMMON. Use your damn brain and put yourself in my shoes Vivax.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 27 2013 22:12 GMT
#2091
On July 23 2013 05:04 cDgCorazon wrote:
Ok so I read everyone's filter and I've come up with a few opinions:

-TG should've been lynched D1. Like seriously. His game has been ridiculously scummy and he should've been lynched for it.

-DrH did cause a no-lynch so I think that should against him, but he should not be instantly beheaded for it. That being said, I really do want to hear more from him.

-Everyone has been too spammy in their posts, and there has not been enough analysis. Only 2 or 3 players have been providing good analysis on a constant basis. In an environment like this, scum are going to thrive. Everyone needs to step up so scum have nowhere to hide.

If anyone wants opinions on specific things, just ask.

Read my filter Vivax.
Grubby's #1 Fan
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 27 2013 22:16 GMT
#2092
@ TG

I'm going for a case by case approach (didn't read the whole game chronologically) and focusing on the parts I find most interesting, and the results of the phases.
In all of that, FT didn't have a place in my scumspect list. I don't think he's as worthy of my attention as you and my other scumspects are. That said, I didn't read him fully focused yet, and probably won't do it until you, Cora, DrH's slot give me reason to think you're town.

If he's town, he'll probably get killed pretty soon anyway since he claimed DT.
As opposed to Cora...
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 27 2013 22:17 GMT
#2093
On July 28 2013 07:16 Vivax wrote:
...and probably won't do it until you, Cora, DrH's slot give me reason to think you're town...


On July 23 2013 04:13 phagga wrote:
cDgCorazon is replacing in for Zephirdd! Say hello everyone!

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JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 27 2013 22:20 GMT
#2094
@TG. Not home. Following by phone. Will be on this evening.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 27 2013 22:22 GMT
#2095
Cora. Need you to tell me why you wanted TG lynched, and why you trust your check so much in light of sanities and host mistakes that you abruptly stopped pursuing him.

If you're town, calm down and tell me how likely you think that the scumteam is TG/Onegu/Kirby, cause if you're town and assuming there's so many scum, that's my conclusion with my current knowledge and suspects, and there is no reason for you to start capsraging at me for being suspicious of a claim that has multiple issues.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 27 2013 22:27 GMT
#2096
On July 28 2013 07:22 Vivax wrote:
Cora. Need you to tell me why you wanted TG lynched, and why you trust your check so much in light of sanities and host mistakes that you abruptly stopped pursuing him.

If you're town, calm down and tell me how likely you think that the scumteam is TG/Onegu/Kirby, cause if you're town and assuming there's so many scum, that's my conclusion with my current knowledge and suspects, and there is no reason for you to start capsraging at me for being suspicious of a claim that has multiple issues.

Vivax, the reason I'm treating you this way is because you are not reading. I'm only going to answer your questions if you have read my filter. Have you? I'm not your bitch and I'm not going to get the damn posts for you. I've explained my TG read and I've explained my other reads. The fact that you think that my proposed scumteam is TG/Onegu/Kirby basically says to me that you have not read my filter and that you are making an uninformed and therefore bad attack on me.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 27 2013 22:35 GMT
#2097
On July 28 2013 06:34 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 06:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I wish this all would have happened yesterday so there'd be more time to reread stuff to see if I really believe these claims. I'm leaning towards legit because it'd be so outlandish for scum to do something like this,

If u 2 guys are telling truths. then there's a fullproof way to see if cora is legit. Submit your own name tonight. According to cora u wont get town or scum, it'll say investigator or whatever it was he said.

Instead of all of us wasting our checks... why don't we lynch Cora and see what our cop sanity is based on his flip? that way we'll know whether the two cops can find scum the following night.

It's a win-win.


It's a terrible plan. Scum kill the only useful DT remaining. This is a terrible plan.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 27 2013 22:37 GMT
#2098
I only see that your refuse to give me a summary for why you found someone scummy, and that you become angry when I suspect you.

Reading through your filter, I actually see you saying that you're surprised TG hasn't been lynched yet, then you barely mention him and instead go vote Oats to "get the asshole out of the game".

So yeah, maybe you should actually remember you didn't write a good, summarized post where you write why TG is scum, only posts where you question his rb claim, where you call his case terrible, and where you say he should have been lynched, that's what I find in your filter.

Overall, your TG push actually looks like bollocks that could fit into the "bus" category.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 27 2013 22:41 GMT
#2099
And calling it a push is a stretch.

On July 23 2013 05:04 cDgCorazon wrote:
Ok so I read everyone's filter and I've come up with a few opinions:

-TG should've been lynched D1. Like seriously. His game has been ridiculously scummy and he should've been lynched for it.

-Getmoript needs to stop arguing with everyone. While I applaud them for posting a lot and trying to move things forward, they are borderline creating chaos in the game. I'm leaning a bit towards scum with them, but I need to see more because Geript is playing very rash and emotional while WoS is being more moderate and even-keel.

-DrH did cause a no-lynch so I think that should against him, but he should not be instantly beheaded for it. That being said, I really do want to hear more from him.

-Everyone has been too spammy in their posts, and there has not been enough analysis. Only 2 or 3 players have been providing good analysis on a constant basis. In an environment like this, scum are going to thrive. Everyone needs to step up so scum have nowhere to hide.

If anyone wants opinions on specific things, just ask.


On July 23 2013 22:15 cDgCorazon wrote:
In all honesty, the TanGeng RB claim doesn't really add up for me. Was there something in his filter that screamed blue to mafia? You guys are writing him off as town just because he got RB'd, which is really silly. I could see a scum TG claiming to be RB'd in order to try and make up for a really shitty game he has played so far.

Onegu's claim is really dumb as well. I'm not entirely sure what we can do about it though. If he is vigi, we really shouldn't lynch him because he is important to the town. On the other hand, if he isn't scum he should die N2. It's really a good thing for town that he claimed because if he dies tonight we see his flip, but if he doesn't he is probably scum.

Oats hasn't done much this game, and if people want to lynch him, I'd be on board with that.


On July 23 2013 22:49 cDgCorazon wrote:
##Vote: Oatsmaster

Lets get this asshole out of the game and actually get somewhere.


So you went from someone being ridiculously scummy and with a suspicious claim to lynching people for not doing much.

Seems legit.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
July 27 2013 22:49 GMT
#2100
I've explained my TG read and I've explained my other reads. The fact that you think that my proposed scumteam is TG/Onegu/Kirby basically says to me that you have not read my filter and that you are making an uninformed and therefore bad attack on me.


Actually, that's my proposed scumteam, not yours.
Anyway, I'm all ears and would like to see where you explained your TG read.
My current knowledge is that townies like to talk about their scumreads, and don't have much trouble remembering their reasons for suspecting them.
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