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Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
July 16 2013 01:42 GMT
#1421
On July 16 2013 10:40 Xzavier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 10:38 Chromatically wrote:
So Xzavier:
On July 16 2013 10:00 Xzavier wrote:
well shit 2 of my 3 top scumreads just died, leaving 1 alone at the top:

sup super.

##VOTE SUPERFLUOUS

this will be removed once you start some LIGIT scumhunting none of that "vote for one guy, make a case on another guy" bullshits okay?

if i dont think youve done an adequate job/you look more scummy as the day goes on expect this to stay, and a case to be made along with it.

Rainbows, Koshi, and Super were your top 3 scumreads, even though you never explain your reads on Koshi or Rainbows.

Then what is this?
On July 16 2013 07:03 Xzavier wrote:
i remember asking people to check the Tribunal after it was just the three of them, what i mostly wanted to know was who tried to join them, nobody came out and directly said as such, but when the list of votes they controlled came out somebody knew was on the list:

Nightcat, a hardcore lurker at the time.

now he was not invited to join this team, i dont recall him asking to either, i just remember him following the wishes of it.(However indirectly as it may be) This blinks scummy on my scumdar.

On July 15 2013 08:19 Nightcat99 wrote:
can you make a case defending why you would not vote for JrKirby at this time?

Can you tell me why you think Superfluous is the better lynch target?


no i cannot make a case to not vote for jrkirby because i stated that i want to make sure to have 1 person lynch, when i came back it seem super was the more likely target but since you guys disagree.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE JRKIRBY


being given the option of switching his vote for a simple reason of "since you guys disagree" and not making a case or updating any reads is bad, because its a super easy for scum to hide without drawing any attention to himself. his entire reason for voting is "the person whos more likely to be lynched" thats a roundabout way of describing a scums voting pattern. they want to blend in and not stick out. So throwing his vote early and the person more likely to be lynched is a great way to lurk successfully.

My scumdar says Scum on nightcat right now

______
now im happy with how hurricane reacted to me saying keep your circle small and that further solidifies my stupidly massive town read on him(sponge) (scum would want to try to control as many votes as possible, they would already control the "holes" in there town circle) so the people saying that one of the three is scum, its not him: The points brought up against rainbow has totally shattered the confidence of my town read on him, his actions are nonsensical. I think that Usami is town still as he has played a far more pro-town game and has cut out almost all of his spam (from games iv previously played with him) while i know meta is bad to use for a case in newbie games, but i feel like a scum wouldnt try so hard to improve his town play as they would replicate it. This is another reason for my Umasi read after all of that.

if we are assuming scum tried to get one player onto the "tribunal" they were either succesful and got Rainbows on it, or used it as an excuse for nightcat to sheep his vote.

Are you expecting me to believe that you made a case on your FOURTH best scumread before making a case on ANY of the top three?


How about i was BRINGING NEW INFORMATION to the table?

i saw somethign new, and i posted it because i dont think very many other people saw it. i dont think i ever said once in that that nightcat was my top scumread. just a scumread, i never actually put them in order, and that was my mistake

Why did you make a case on Nightcat before even mentioning Rainbows?
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 16 2013 01:44 GMT
#1422
On July 16 2013 10:38 Xzavier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 10:36 Alakaslam wrote:
Appears they may. However you may have been jailed too.

Hmm.

I actually don't think jailer should claim if he did, actually I don't know if it was wise to claim this Chrom. I don't know though, how does it help town?


was this even a question?

fuck no the JK shoudlnt claim, thats stupid.

and yes chrom should have claimed, if nobody else claims they were roleblocked we now know that in this game there is atleast 1 of the following two, a town JK, or a scum RB.

If we get another roleblocked claim then we know we have both.

this helps town because this gives town more information.

having the JK claim gifts a power role to scum.

please stop

Claiming jk is obv stupid, yes I worded I don't think that can be used slang sorry.

Did not know it was worth claiming roleblocked however. Thought it might be a form of blue fishing but I will hush.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 16 2013 01:45 GMT
#1423
order of that post was:

NEW SHIT!!!!!
___

MY TAKE ON OLD SHIT!!!!

sorry, ill invert it next time
Mafia :D
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 16 2013 01:45 GMT
#1424
On July 16 2013 10:42 Chromatically wrote:
Jailer def shouldn't claim.

You always claim RBs right after you get them because it helps solve the game (you can't trust claims at later points).

EX: One person is RBd each night, scum roleblocker is lynched ==> everyone roleblocked is practically confirmed town
EX: One person is RBd each night, on N3 no kill occurs and no one claims RB ==> jalier claims and lynches confirmed scum
EX: Two people are RBd each night ==> jailer can figure out who the scum RB is (what I did in XXXIII)


No this one isnt true as this happened in my first newbie game and JK hit my NK target.
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Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
July 16 2013 01:46 GMT
#1425
Anyway, these NKs don't make any sense at all, they were two highly likely mislynches for today.

Scum + SK is Gotard+Nightcat+Xzavier with an outside chance of Super.

Everyone else is really town (yes, including Onegu and Alaka).
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 16 2013 01:46 GMT
#1426
Ebwop

Ok I see, but at that point scum claimes to be roleblocked.
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Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
July 16 2013 01:47 GMT
#1427
On July 16 2013 10:45 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 10:42 Chromatically wrote:
Jailer def shouldn't claim.

You always claim RBs right after you get them because it helps solve the game (you can't trust claims at later points).

EX: One person is RBd each night, scum roleblocker is lynched ==> everyone roleblocked is practically confirmed town
EX: One person is RBd each night, on N3 no kill occurs and no one claims RB ==> jalier claims and lynches confirmed scum
EX: Two people are RBd each night ==> jailer can figure out who the scum RB is (what I did in XXXIII)


No this one isnt true as this happened in my first newbie game and JK hit my NK target.

Oh that's true, you still have a group of 2 with one confirmed scum.
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 16 2013 01:47 GMT
#1428
On July 16 2013 10:46 Chromatically wrote:
Anyway, these NKs don't make any sense at all, they were two highly likely mislynches for today.

Scum + SK is Gotard+Nightcat+Xzavier with an outside chance of Super.

Everyone else is really town (yes, including Onegu and Alaka).


because logic?
Mafia :D
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
July 16 2013 01:49 GMT
#1429
On July 16 2013 10:47 Xzavier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 10:46 Chromatically wrote:
Anyway, these NKs don't make any sense at all, they were two highly likely mislynches for today.

Scum + SK is Gotard+Nightcat+Xzavier with an outside chance of Super.

Everyone else is really town (yes, including Onegu and Alaka).


because logic?

Yes?

Do you disagree? Apparently your top 2 scumreads right now are Super and Nightcat.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 16 2013 01:49 GMT
#1430
On July 16 2013 10:46 Chromatically wrote:
Anyway, these NKs don't make any sense at all, they were two highly likely mislynches for today.

Scum + SK is Gotard+Nightcat+Xzavier with an outside chance of Super.

Everyone else is really town (yes, including Onegu and Alaka).


10+2+1 or 9+3+1? If it is based off of C9++ then it could be either.

For balance reasons, it probably depends on the number of good power roles that town has.
Nightcat99
Profile Joined December 2010
United States239 Posts
July 16 2013 01:50 GMT
#1431
i am confused where the 10+2+1 comes from i through it said there will be 3 scum.. so it has to be 9+3+1
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
July 16 2013 01:51 GMT
#1432
Hmm yeah actually the OP does say 3 scum.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 16 2013 01:51 GMT
#1433
Correct, thanks, must be 9+3+1.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 16 2013 01:52 GMT
#1434
Very well. Can I disobey my own statement and ask a dumbass question?

Would scum claim a RB or is that WIFOM?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Nightcat99
Profile Joined December 2010
United States239 Posts
July 16 2013 01:52 GMT
#1435
and can anyone explain why i am getting so much heat, i mean i have explained the early lurking but guess theres a problem with if i was lieing or not here but theres no way for me to prove that unless you guys want a copy of my plane ticket

and as far as the early day random roles, i through iwas out of time and i have to vote.
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 16 2013 01:54 GMT
#1436
On July 16 2013 10:52 Nightcat99 wrote:
and can anyone explain why i am getting so much heat, i mean i have explained the early lurking but guess theres a problem with if i was lieing or not here but theres no way for me to prove that unless you guys want a copy of my plane ticket

and as far as the early day random roles, i through iwas out of time and i have to vote.



your getting heat for making excuses for your lurking (which is okay to give, but not enough alone)

and not scumhunting, the more you scumhunt the less heat you get.
Mafia :D
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 16 2013 01:54 GMT
#1437
On July 16 2013 10:52 Alakaslam wrote:
Very well. Can I disobey my own statement and ask a dumbass question?

Would scum claim a RB or is that WIFOM?


Sure they would. It's factional KP anyway. If they do not claim then the JK might think they are scum.

On the other hand, that's only if he was RB by town JK. If he was RB by a scum RBer then Chrom is town.
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 16 2013 01:56 GMT
#1438
On July 16 2013 10:54 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 10:52 Alakaslam wrote:
Very well. Can I disobey my own statement and ask a dumbass question?

Would scum claim a RB or is that WIFOM?


Sure they would. It's factional KP anyway. If they do not claim then the JK might think they are scum.

On the other hand, that's only if he was RB by town JK. If he was RB by a scum RBer then Chrom is town.


i fail to see the logic in the second half of that post
Mafia :D
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 16 2013 01:57 GMT
#1439
On July 16 2013 10:56 Xzavier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 10:54 hzflank wrote:
On July 16 2013 10:52 Alakaslam wrote:
Very well. Can I disobey my own statement and ask a dumbass question?

Would scum claim a RB or is that WIFOM?


Sure they would. It's factional KP anyway. If they do not claim then the JK might think they are scum.

On the other hand, that's only if he was RB by town JK. If he was RB by a scum RBer then Chrom is town.


i fail to see the logic in the second half of that post


Why on earth would scum RB one of their team?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
July 16 2013 01:57 GMT
#1440
I would really like to hear from anyone who has scumreads on hz, Onegu, Umasi, Sponge, or Alaka. I have a hard time seeing any of them as scum.
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