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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 20 2013 03:36 GMT
#2118
Im on phone now. and reasoning for lynching aqua is his lurking. if he does enough to atone for his sins my position can be changed. As far as hzflank: the biggest thing i picked up was the umasi thing. Ill check back and look more in depth at his posts about super.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 20 2013 03:37 GMT
#2119
And umasi. the day i dont have work is monday.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 20 2013 16:23 GMT
#2136
On July 20 2013 14:04 Alakaslam wrote:
I find it odd that only Umasi and I seem to have noticed

Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 12:36 Xzavier wrote:
Im on phone now. and reasoning for lynching aqua is his lurking. if he does enough to atone for his sins my position can be changed. As far as hzflank: the biggest thing i picked up was the umasi thing. Ill check back and look more in depth at his posts about super.


Helllllllooooooooooo town! Earth to town!

Aqua is in obs... Only scum game I ever played obs could comment in scum chat so


Meant to say super. at work right now. ill respond to case when i get home. i was fuckong exhausted yesterday as shown by the typos (gotard where i meant to say umasi. aqua out of nowhere)

Ask all the questions you like and ill get around to them after i get home in 6 hours.

im also playing league with a friend tonight so ill only be around for a few hours then in between games.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 20 2013 16:24 GMT
#2137
Fuck the deadlines tonight. so ill just be active from when i get home to deadline.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 20 2013 17:35 GMT
#2140
On July 20 2013 14:10 Chromatically wrote:
The worst part about Xzav is that his reads are literally a transcription of town sentiment.

Here's his original read on Kirby:
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On July 14 2013 02:35 Xzavier wrote:
jrkirby: claims he has a null read on stim- after doing sensible things when you have a null read, like trying to calm him down to remove emotion from his posts (because an angry poster is a bad poster), his entire take on stim can be summed up by his last post:
On July 13 2013 13:42 jrkirby wrote:
I don't think he's thinking through what he's saying. His actions don't seem town because they're foolish from every way you look at them. But that doesn't make him clearly scum.

But on the road to getting there he seemed to tunnel him the least of all and keep his options around on everybody, i like how he didnt just total tunnel vision him like chrom, because he helps the town far more by simply looking at others. I like that. he pressured hurricane and has spoken to half the thread, that much i like. He may be hedging as stim just said, but i think its early enough that it might not be the worst of things to do early day1, but if he keeps it up it will look might suspicious. Right now i feel like hes town still. i am happy that somebody brought up the hedging point, because before i saw that i had him pegged as one of my stronger town reads, now i can see a smart ruse that i might have totally fallen for.

A stronger town read, but when Kirby comes under more pressure and becomes a serious lynch target:

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On July 15 2013 05:13 Xzavier wrote:
honestly, between jkirby and super im kinda stunned. I see them both as scummy as shit. Right now i dont even feel the need to OMGUS super because his vote on my was without a case and the only case he made wasnt even on me.

No reasoning given, just a plain 180 based on town sentiment.

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On July 16 2013 07:03 Xzavier wrote:
i remember asking people to check the Tribunal after it was just the three of them, what i mostly wanted to know was who tried to join them, nobody came out and directly said as such, but when the list of votes they controlled came out somebody knew was on the list:

Nightcat, a hardcore lurker at the time.

now he was not invited to join this team, i dont recall him asking to either, i just remember him following the wishes of it.(However indirectly as it may be) This blinks scummy on my scumdar.

On July 15 2013 08:19 Nightcat99 wrote:
can you make a case defending why you would not vote for JrKirby at this time?

Can you tell me why you think Superfluous is the better lynch target?


no i cannot make a case to not vote for jrkirby because i stated that i want to make sure to have 1 person lynch, when i came back it seem super was the more likely target but since you guys disagree.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE JRKIRBY


being given the option of switching his vote for a simple reason of "since you guys disagree" and not making a case or updating any reads is bad, because its a super easy for scum to hide without drawing any attention to himself. his entire reason for voting is "the person whos more likely to be lynched" thats a roundabout way of describing a scums voting pattern. they want to blend in and not stick out. So throwing his vote early and the person more likely to be lynched is a great way to lurk successfully.

My scumdar says Scum on nightcat right now

______
now im happy with how hurricane reacted to me saying keep your circle small and that further solidifies my stupidly massive town read on him(sponge) (scum would want to try to control as many votes as possible, they would already control the "holes" in there town circle) so the people saying that one of the three is scum, its not him: The points brought up against rainbow has totally shattered the confidence of my town read on him, his actions are nonsensical. I think that Usami is town still as he has played a far more pro-town game and has cut out almost all of his spam (from games iv previously played with him) while i know meta is bad to use for a case in newbie games, but i feel like a scum wouldnt try so hard to improve his town play as they would replicate it. This is another reason for my Umasi read after all of that.

if we are assuming scum tried to get one player onto the "tribunal" they were either succesful and got Rainbows on it, or used it as an excuse for nightcat to sheep his vote.

Xzav never mentions Nightcat before this, but as soon as pressure starts building onto Nightcat, Xzav randomly makes a case on him that he NEVER pushes at all.

This part is even weirder given the whole top 3 thing, where Nightcat was apparently not even in Xzav's top 3 scumreads. But, for some reason, Xzav felt it was better for him to make a case on Nightcat as opposed to, say, Super, his top scumread.

He also totally 180s on Rainbows because of "the points brought up against him", no explanation given. Rainbows was apparently in his "top 3 town" earlier, but the few things that people said about him were good enough to switch that read to "top 3 scum" (when the points were really not that convincing).

Other stuff:

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On July 16 2013 10:00 Xzavier wrote:
well shit 2 of my 3 top scumreads just died, leaving 1 alone at the top:

sup super.

##VOTE SUPERFLUOUS

this will be removed once you start some LIGIT scumhunting none of that "vote for one guy, make a case on another guy" bullshits okay?

if i dont think youve done an adequate job/you look more scummy as the day goes on expect this to stay, and a case to be made along with it.

This actually doesn't make sense at all. Apparently Super is his top scumread, so Xzav is convinced that Super is scum. Then why would you EVER tell your scumread how to get them to stop voting you? That defeats the whole purpose.

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On July 18 2013 04:18 Xzavier wrote:
However gotard does look scummy, i see him as a serious lynch candidate, but who the fuck is running against him to die? Nobody? isnt that strange in and of itself. When there are mutliple scummy people in the game and only one of them is getting votes? shouldnt scum buddies be atleast SEMI-attempting to defend him? It seems to me like scum are okay with this lynch, and that is worrysome. there was no resistance to his case (basically) and i cant imagine people full-bussing when all they would have to do is ask/answer harmless questions and make pro-town moves to do it.

I said earlier that this didn't make sense from scum because they were already bussing, but that was wrong. This is more likely just scum fishing to see if anyone would switch to Super so that they can push that instead.

The rest of his filter is fluff, he does some coaching which is really easy to do as scum.

And trying to get Super lynched today is just a stupid move that shows that he's not honestly thinking as town, Super is clearly a really bad lynch today to anyone trying to find scum at all.

##Vote: Xzavier



Im on lunch right now. as for nightcat i posted one of the first if not the first points against him.

I honestly thing your being overly critical of the "fluff in my filter"
there is more good content then you make it seem. the reaaon i wasnt on gotard until so late is obvious. i was trying to get a lurker to post.

And about the hzflank pressuring people clears them of being scum, not confirmed town. they could be the sk still. allthough i believe umasi to be town still. but since it was so early day1 and his lurking since then i see that super has a pretty good chance to be the last scum/sk.

And all this shit bout lynching an obs is bullshit. i hsd the most stressful days of my life the past few days that ill go over in the postgame. and iv never heard of obs post in scum qt. They use obs qt.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 20 2013 17:38 GMT
#2141
I had to cut that message short cuz phone ran out of characters or someshit. dont hav time to figure out why.

Anyway if i was scum i would be retarded not to bus gotard.

Attacking me for sheeping people who are far better scumhunters then me all that bad? i have been doing my best to add new information and find things myself. but people keep sayong im better than i really am which i dont get.

There are others in this thread who have commited far greater crimes.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 20 2013 17:44 GMT
#2143
Im also not the only one with minimal interactions with hz. and i havnt head overly heavy interactions with all that many people.

Also its true that he didnt make a case on me. but he did talk too me and ask for opinions and such. so its not as extreme as nightcat makes it out to be. and thats worrysome that nightcat just blew that out of proportion.

Anyway ill address everything better when i get home. but id love it if you looked into other people in case i do proove im town and answer your inquiries satisfactory.

I mean still pressure me until your happy im not scum.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 20 2013 17:47 GMT
#2144
On July 21 2013 02:44 Chromatically wrote:
So we should lynch Super over you because he's a lurker? Even though his chances of being a good lynch are halved because he's not scum?


Thats not garenteed.

He could have gone for a day1 bus for town cred because he had pretty inactive scumbuddies? then changed when it worked out he wasnt going to lynch him so it would give super good town cred incase he flipped for whatever reason.

In simpler words. he could have day1 busssed an inactive scumbuddy.

Lunch is about over.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 20 2013 17:48 GMT
#2145
Because HZ had***
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 20 2013 17:53 GMT
#2146
If i was straight sherping the thread why would i not vote gotard with the rest of the wagon?
Im doing my best this game with all the shit happening.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 20 2013 19:53 GMT
#2149
On July 21 2013 03:51 Chromatically wrote:
I cannot believe that Xzav honestly thinks we should lurker lynch, on D3, while assuming a D1 bus.

If he's town, he doesn't give a shit about winning.


I havnt been putting as much effort forth as i would like. But i cant exactly filter dive while im at work.

But i certainly have been doing my best to assure town wins. and lurkers hurt more later in the game as scum can just lurk to win as the townies all lynch each other.. this being why i was pressuring super so hard for lurking.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 20 2013 19:55 GMT
#2150
On July 21 2013 04:26 Nightcat99 wrote:
Too be fair, just because super posted doesn't mean he is not scummy, just not as scummy as Xzavier , plus i still hace a case against onegu and he is lurking.


Why would he have to post when everybody has been pushing me?
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 20 2013 20:02 GMT
#2151
The reason i want to lynch lurkers right now is im convinced scum/sk are lurking to win..

I believe chrom and umasi are town strongly.

I hav no idea what alaka is.

Super and onegu are lurking. one of which has a case on him. dont look good.

Nightcat is either noob town or the best scum player faking noob town.

This leads me to believe the people not contributing are the likeliest scum/3rd party. they get to sit back while you all mislynch me.

Last break is over. get off in 2 hours
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 20 2013 22:35 GMT
#2168
##vote superflous
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 21 2013 23:10 GMT
#2271
On July 22 2013 07:50 Nightcat99 wrote:
I think xzavier could have survived the day 3 lynch if he fought harder, then it would be hard for me to lose.

cause i know umasi is on the fence and i am diffidently backing him.

also i think i would have survived a LYLO against super or slam.


i just want to point out taht i played League of legends when i got home from work 2 hours before the deadline, because i knew there was no way for me to clear myself and even if i did there would be no other wagon so they would lynch me anyway. If i woulda been active the day before though i think i might have been able to survive, and i was for an extent, but the case against me was build when i went to sleep and i tried responding to it at work but i was pretty fucking dead :/

if i coulda like been there to talk back i think i coulda survived the day3 lynch, but i was pretty unmotivated when the case was built against me at work, i kind accepted my death.
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