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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 14 2013 23:36 GMT
#941
Is kirby worth saving?
Solid read. This is why we can use kirby over Super. (bolded below)
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On July 15 2013 07:22 jrkirby wrote:
Yeah, if super flips scum, which I hope, I'd be really suspicious of chrom. But I don't think you should vote him if I die tonight.

Chrom: If I died tonight and flip town, who would you want next? If I hypothetically flipped scum, what then?

Anyone else who wants to answer these questions would be appreciated, But I'd specifically like it from chrom, because he's been pushing my lynch the hardest.


Kirby defends himself below, he is not afraid to call out people.
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On July 15 2013 02:42 jrkirby wrote:
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On July 15 2013 02:26 StiMaDDict wrote:
@jkirby: please, stop dodging the subject. Why did you think those 3 were most suspicious at the time your posting and what is your current read on them.


Oh, that was the question. Woops.

Rainbows & Umasi: I didn't like the way they were hunting stim and arguing over semantics. It's a really weak scumtell, and I had a really weak scumread. What else can you do that early in the game? I only really mentioned it because I was specifically asked, if I recall.

I'm still suspicious of sponge for the way he reacted to that "unposted" writing drama. I think he's the next filter I'll dive.

Also, I looked through rainbow's filter, and after that early stim back and forth, miscommunicating stuff, he seems to have a clearer townish filter.


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On July 15 2013 03:27 jrkirby wrote:
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On July 15 2013 02:51 Chromatically wrote:
On July 15 2013 02:48 jrkirby wrote:
On July 15 2013 02:38 Chromatically wrote:
Well, what information did you get from it?

We got that he claims to have a post that he would've posted on the condition that he's scum, but he won't post it. He clearly admitted it. And there's an obvious scum reasoning behind that: He didn't actually have something to post, because he IS scum. That isn't to say there isn't neutral motivations, as he already posted one. We also got to see how he defends himself. Apparently he does it in a calm rational manner, and provides clear (if somewhat dubious) reasoning for his actions.

If you don't have anything new to ask me, I'm going to read his filter now.

So it sounds like you got a scummy feel from the situation. However, you never show any signs of this.

Why wouldn't you pressure vote him? Why wouldn't you keep pressuring him? Why wouldn't you ask others for reads on him?

These are all things that townies would do to develop and push their reads, but you never show any interest in Sponge after this. You show no signs at all that you actually care about Sponge's alignment.


It actually might have been a good idea for me to put a pressure vote on him. I'm not the greatest player, but that sounds like that would've been a good idea. Too bad I didn't think of that earlier. I didn't keep pressuring him because I didn't have anything to pressure him on. I guess I should've asked for others' reads on him too. This is all good advice, wish I had thought of it earlier myself. Thanks.

My current view on Hurricane: I think hes scum, but a very bad day one lynch.

Reasoning:

1) He claims he wanted stim to act all angry. I personally disagree, and I think angry players are as bad for town as lurkers.

2) He votes against me, the only person really putting any pressure on him at all. This is only after I already have two votes, as well.

3) His refusal to post something about this mafia game that I asked him to.

I don't think he'd make a good day one lynch, because he's a logical rational player who writes well. If I am wrong about him, he'd make a good ally on the town team.


I want you to read his case on Gotard. Then read all the "cases" superflous made.
Then I want you to read the response of Kirby to Godart. This is good stuff.
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On July 15 2013 03:37 jrkirby wrote:
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On July 15 2013 03:08 Gotard wrote:
On July 15 2013 02:03 jrkirby wrote:
Gotard is really sheeping with his vote on me. In one post, he says I "confuse him a little" before anyone has voted me. Then he votes me saying:
Jrkirby looks like a better lynch than Superfluous right now.

What? You think that you can just sheep me because of the two biggest bandwagons, you like this one better? You think you don't need to do anything, and it's just fine to jump on whatever BW you see fit? Because that is NOT ok. You better pick up your play, because that is scum.

He reiterates a couple of things other people have said, and doesn't even get all of it, and misinterprets even basic things:
His post claiming that hzflank is mafia was awkward and then he defended himself saying that it was only a joke/pressure combo.

That was like the third post of the day, and I was quoting things that happened before the game even started. If you thought there was a chance that it was completely serious, then you weren't paying much attention.

On top of that, he's barely posted, hasn't posted an original scumread, and has pressured no one.

Guys, I think we found scum.

Vote: Gotard

Since the majority of votes is required to lynch someone you need to jump on wagons or make really strong case for other to follow and some people are just better than me at doing that.

What do you mean by saying "You think you don't need to do anything, and it's just fine to jump on whatever BW you see fit". You can say stuff like that about 50% of the players in this game... And this bandwagon of course fits me because I find you scummy.

"That was like the third post of the day, and I was quoting things that happened before the game even started. If you thought there was a chance that it was completely serious, then you weren't paying much attention.". Then what was the point of that post? To confuse people? To make fake content? I don't see how that post was pro town in any way. It was simply useless.

"On top of that, he's barely posted, hasn't posted an original scumread, and has pressured no one.". It's hard to post "original scumread" when you are in EU timezone and game is the most active when you sleep. Do you want me to talk to myself? rotfl. (That was a little scummy excuse T_T). I do what I can do which is more passive play.


These are just excuses. Read filters, hunt scum. Don't look for where the votes are, reiterate what everyone else has said, and then vote the same way.



below more good stuff from kirby. Even if you don't agree with him, it is better than anything I read from Super
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On July 15 2013 02:36 jrkirby wrote:
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On July 15 2013 02:28 Chromatically wrote:

He gives this as the purpose for the posts:
It was to see his reaction, and judge whether he was telling the truth.

Well what has he gotten? Nothing! His read on Sponge was totally unaffected.

He was pressuring Sponge for no reason, which is scum.


What? Pressuring someone with no reason at the beginning of day 1 is scum? Why? It only gets town more information. If done properly (maybe better than I can do it) on a poor player (maybe a player worse than Sponge) who is actually just so happens to be scum, then you'll be able to get a very good scumread. Just because I wasn't successful with flying colors doesn't mean that a) we didn't get any information, or b) it was scummy.


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On July 15 2013 02:25 jrkirby wrote:
Xzavier also looks scummy to me. While he hasn't voted yet, he did say:
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But right now super & jkirby both blink bright red on my scumdar.

Soon after it's clear we both have a BW on us. Pretty much sheeping to me. And it's only a couple hours for the deadline, so I wouldn't be surprised if he BW's someone without much discussion or reason.

Also most of his posts have been about his schedule, instead of about the game. If THAT isn't fluff, what is?


Then lastly. Kirby said 2 times he is very good at seeing voting patterns, he says that this is his best skillset.
What is Superflous his best skillset? Giving random Cop facts?
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On July 13 2013 10:32 jrkirby wrote:
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On July 13 2013 10:23 Chromatically wrote:
Kirby, who do you think is scum?


Honestly? I have real trouble seeing scum until I see voting patterns. I'm slightly more suspicious of Sponge, Umasi, and Rainbows than the rest. Sponge I've stated my reasons for. I don't really trust my read on Rainbows because [meta here] I thought he was scum last time I played with him and he wasn't. Umasi just reads a bit ornery, so that could be the reason for my weak read.

My vote on hzflank was kinda a combo of joke/pressure as you guys pointed out. It got a bit of discussion, but didn't get much of a rise out of hzflank, who I currently have null read on.

I guess I should unvote him now, since the pressure obviously didn't do too much.

##unvote: hzflank




Read Kirby his filter. If you want to safe 1 of these 2 guys? It must be kirby.
I had a good night of sleep.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 14 2013 23:36 GMT
#942
If we lynch jrkirby and hes town at least we can call chrom a dumbass.

That could be fun.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 23:36 GMT
#943
On July 15 2013 08:34 jrkirby wrote:
The way this is turning out, I am having major doubts that super is scum. I would much much much rather have gotard or koshi lynch.


Not Umasi and Xzavier? They seem to be more logical targets for you, no?
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 23:38 GMT
#944
Alright, both targets look fine to me. We're coming up on 15 minutes, so lets hear the leanings of the other tribunalmans.

Umasi, Rainbows: Who ya got?
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
July 14 2013 23:39 GMT
#945
At this point, both are scummy, it depends on the phases of the moon
unfortunately, kirby is standing in its shadow
so upon kirby it may rest
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 23:40 GMT
#946
hz, you okay with this? I hate to break your heart.
Nightcat99
Profile Joined December 2010
United States239 Posts
July 14 2013 23:41 GMT
#947
i would much rather have super lynch then kirby but i would much rather to have a lynch then no lynch at all. because by the way kirby or super turn, we could have a much better read regardless of the outcome.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 14 2013 23:41 GMT
#948
People should not think about what happens if someone flips scum. If someone flips scum then that is a win, plain and simple.

Considering what happens if someone flips town hold more weight, although with 13 people still in the game even that is WIFOM.

I suggest just asking yourselves: Of all the players we could possibly hope to lynch today, who is the most likely to flip scum?
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 14 2013 23:41 GMT
#949
Kirby why not eh
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
July 14 2013 23:42 GMT
#950
oh, I will say this much:

While people are still reading
if everyone could give a huge thought dump at the end of every night in case you were night killed, that would be really quite nice.
Thought dump as in list of reads, most likely scum team, etc etc etc.
just fyi, in case you plan on being lazy during the night phase.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 14 2013 23:42 GMT
#951
On July 15 2013 08:41 hzflank wrote:
People should not think about what happens if someone flips scum. If someone flips scum then that is a win, plain and simple.

Considering what happens if someone flips town hold more weight, although with 13 people still in the game even that is WIFOM.

I suggest just asking yourselves: Of all the players we could possibly hope to lynch today, who is the most likely to flip scum?

We dont know who is the better target between super and kirby (we agree on this right?)

Who will be more useful to us in Day 2?

That is the next question.

I had a good night of sleep.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
July 14 2013 23:43 GMT
#952
I think I would prefer a switch to Koshi right now.

Read his filter and look at his opinions on Kirby/Super:
On July 15 2013 03:39 Koshi wrote:
If you don't agree with me that both players look scummy atm but Kirby might be easier to read in Day 2 because he posts more and is more aggressive. Then we don't have much to discuss.

If there are 6 votes on Kirby expect me to give the 7th.
But for now I believe Super is the best choice.

It seems like he thinks both are very similar in scumminess.

Then, with no reasoning, he accuses me of tunneling, being full of shit, and starts attacking Super and hard defending Kirby.

He also gave this nonsense reason for a town read on Kirby:
On July 14 2013 08:02 Koshi wrote:
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On July 14 2013 07:22 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 14 2013 07:11 Koshi wrote:
@hzflank
That is a really impressing post. I would give you a cookie but I will give you this instead.
##Vote: Superfluous

I also like the kirby case but kirby hasn't posted in the last 20 hours. So I am reluctant to put my vote on him. Kirby has proven that he can make big analytical posts or at least is willing to do so. He has proven that he can pick up on 1 scummier sentence in a big convincing pro town post. So I would like to give kirby the chance to do this before I put my vote on him.


What?! Find one. Now. Please.

The joking one. I didn't say it was good. I am just saying that he is willing to do so.

Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 14 2013 23:43 GMT
#953
On July 15 2013 08:36 Koshi wrote:
Is kirby worth saving?
Solid read. This is why we can use kirby over Super. (bolded below)
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On July 15 2013 07:22 jrkirby wrote:
Yeah, if super flips scum, which I hope, I'd be really suspicious of chrom. But I don't think you should vote him if I die tonight.

Chrom: If I died tonight and flip town, who would you want next? If I hypothetically flipped scum, what then?

Anyone else who wants to answer these questions would be appreciated, But I'd specifically like it from chrom, because he's been pushing my lynch the hardest.


Kirby defends himself below, he is not afraid to call out people.
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On July 15 2013 02:42 jrkirby wrote:
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On July 15 2013 02:26 StiMaDDict wrote:
@jkirby: please, stop dodging the subject. Why did you think those 3 were most suspicious at the time your posting and what is your current read on them.


Oh, that was the question. Woops.

Rainbows & Umasi: I didn't like the way they were hunting stim and arguing over semantics. It's a really weak scumtell, and I had a really weak scumread. What else can you do that early in the game? I only really mentioned it because I was specifically asked, if I recall.

I'm still suspicious of sponge for the way he reacted to that "unposted" writing drama. I think he's the next filter I'll dive.

Also, I looked through rainbow's filter, and after that early stim back and forth, miscommunicating stuff, he seems to have a clearer townish filter.


+ Show Spoiler +
On July 15 2013 03:27 jrkirby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 02:51 Chromatically wrote:
On July 15 2013 02:48 jrkirby wrote:
On July 15 2013 02:38 Chromatically wrote:
Well, what information did you get from it?

We got that he claims to have a post that he would've posted on the condition that he's scum, but he won't post it. He clearly admitted it. And there's an obvious scum reasoning behind that: He didn't actually have something to post, because he IS scum. That isn't to say there isn't neutral motivations, as he already posted one. We also got to see how he defends himself. Apparently he does it in a calm rational manner, and provides clear (if somewhat dubious) reasoning for his actions.

If you don't have anything new to ask me, I'm going to read his filter now.

So it sounds like you got a scummy feel from the situation. However, you never show any signs of this.

Why wouldn't you pressure vote him? Why wouldn't you keep pressuring him? Why wouldn't you ask others for reads on him?

These are all things that townies would do to develop and push their reads, but you never show any interest in Sponge after this. You show no signs at all that you actually care about Sponge's alignment.


It actually might have been a good idea for me to put a pressure vote on him. I'm not the greatest player, but that sounds like that would've been a good idea. Too bad I didn't think of that earlier. I didn't keep pressuring him because I didn't have anything to pressure him on. I guess I should've asked for others' reads on him too. This is all good advice, wish I had thought of it earlier myself. Thanks.

My current view on Hurricane: I think hes scum, but a very bad day one lynch.

Reasoning:

1) He claims he wanted stim to act all angry. I personally disagree, and I think angry players are as bad for town as lurkers.

2) He votes against me, the only person really putting any pressure on him at all. This is only after I already have two votes, as well.

3) His refusal to post something about this mafia game that I asked him to.

I don't think he'd make a good day one lynch, because he's a logical rational player who writes well. If I am wrong about him, he'd make a good ally on the town team.


I want you to read his case on Gotard. Then read all the "cases" superflous made.
Then I want you to read the response of Kirby to Godart. This is good stuff.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 15 2013 03:37 jrkirby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 03:08 Gotard wrote:
On July 15 2013 02:03 jrkirby wrote:
Gotard is really sheeping with his vote on me. In one post, he says I "confuse him a little" before anyone has voted me. Then he votes me saying:
Jrkirby looks like a better lynch than Superfluous right now.

What? You think that you can just sheep me because of the two biggest bandwagons, you like this one better? You think you don't need to do anything, and it's just fine to jump on whatever BW you see fit? Because that is NOT ok. You better pick up your play, because that is scum.

He reiterates a couple of things other people have said, and doesn't even get all of it, and misinterprets even basic things:
His post claiming that hzflank is mafia was awkward and then he defended himself saying that it was only a joke/pressure combo.

That was like the third post of the day, and I was quoting things that happened before the game even started. If you thought there was a chance that it was completely serious, then you weren't paying much attention.

On top of that, he's barely posted, hasn't posted an original scumread, and has pressured no one.

Guys, I think we found scum.

Vote: Gotard

Since the majority of votes is required to lynch someone you need to jump on wagons or make really strong case for other to follow and some people are just better than me at doing that.

What do you mean by saying "You think you don't need to do anything, and it's just fine to jump on whatever BW you see fit". You can say stuff like that about 50% of the players in this game... And this bandwagon of course fits me because I find you scummy.

"That was like the third post of the day, and I was quoting things that happened before the game even started. If you thought there was a chance that it was completely serious, then you weren't paying much attention.". Then what was the point of that post? To confuse people? To make fake content? I don't see how that post was pro town in any way. It was simply useless.

"On top of that, he's barely posted, hasn't posted an original scumread, and has pressured no one.". It's hard to post "original scumread" when you are in EU timezone and game is the most active when you sleep. Do you want me to talk to myself? rotfl. (That was a little scummy excuse T_T). I do what I can do which is more passive play.


These are just excuses. Read filters, hunt scum. Don't look for where the votes are, reiterate what everyone else has said, and then vote the same way.



below more good stuff from kirby. Even if you don't agree with him, it is better than anything I read from Super
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 15 2013 02:36 jrkirby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 02:28 Chromatically wrote:

He gives this as the purpose for the posts:
It was to see his reaction, and judge whether he was telling the truth.

Well what has he gotten? Nothing! His read on Sponge was totally unaffected.

He was pressuring Sponge for no reason, which is scum.


What? Pressuring someone with no reason at the beginning of day 1 is scum? Why? It only gets town more information. If done properly (maybe better than I can do it) on a poor player (maybe a player worse than Sponge) who is actually just so happens to be scum, then you'll be able to get a very good scumread. Just because I wasn't successful with flying colors doesn't mean that a) we didn't get any information, or b) it was scummy.


+ Show Spoiler +
On July 15 2013 02:25 jrkirby wrote:
Xzavier also looks scummy to me. While he hasn't voted yet, he did say:
Show nested quote +
But right now super & jkirby both blink bright red on my scumdar.

Soon after it's clear we both have a BW on us. Pretty much sheeping to me. And it's only a couple hours for the deadline, so I wouldn't be surprised if he BW's someone without much discussion or reason.

Also most of his posts have been about his schedule, instead of about the game. If THAT isn't fluff, what is?


Then lastly. Kirby said 2 times he is very good at seeing voting patterns, he says that this is his best skillset.
What is Superflous his best skillset? Giving random Cop facts?
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 13 2013 10:32 jrkirby wrote:
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On July 13 2013 10:23 Chromatically wrote:
Kirby, who do you think is scum?


Honestly? I have real trouble seeing scum until I see voting patterns. I'm slightly more suspicious of Sponge, Umasi, and Rainbows than the rest. Sponge I've stated my reasons for. I don't really trust my read on Rainbows because [meta here] I thought he was scum last time I played with him and he wasn't. Umasi just reads a bit ornery, so that could be the reason for my weak read.

My vote on hzflank was kinda a combo of joke/pressure as you guys pointed out. It got a bit of discussion, but didn't get much of a rise out of hzflank, who I currently have null read on.

I guess I should unvote him now, since the pressure obviously didn't do too much.

##unvote: hzflank




Read Kirby his filter. If you want to safe 1 of these 2 guys? It must be kirby.


This means nothing guys?
I had a good night of sleep.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 14 2013 23:43 GMT
#954
I dont like Koshi so kill kirby trololol
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 23:43 GMT
#955
Tribunal stand by for potential super-secret vote switch. Filter diving real quick for something very specific. Odds of finding are quite low, but just in case be ready ~5 minutes.
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
July 14 2013 23:43 GMT
#956
On July 15 2013 08:41 hzflank wrote:
People should not think about what happens if someone flips scum. If someone flips scum then that is a win, plain and simple.

Considering what happens if someone flips town hold more weight, although with 13 people still in the game even that is WIFOM.

I suggest just asking yourselves: Of all the players we could possibly hope to lynch today, who is the most likely to flip scum?



.........
gut says super
head says kirby
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
July 14 2013 23:45 GMT
#957
I was pretty sure that they were both scum, butI have doubts that scum Koshi would be hard defending scum Kirby as much as he just did.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 14 2013 23:45 GMT
#958
Ok I rest my case. Meh. I am not good at this style. Just looking like a fool it seems.
I had a good night of sleep.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 14 2013 23:45 GMT
#959
On July 15 2013 08:45 Chromatically wrote:
I was pretty sure that they were both scum, butI have doubts that scum Koshi would be hard defending scum Kirby as much as he just did.

Those preflip associations, man.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 14 2013 23:45 GMT
#960
On July 15 2013 08:43 Chromatically wrote:
I think I would prefer a switch to Koshi right now.

Read his filter and look at his opinions on Kirby/Super:
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On July 15 2013 03:39 Koshi wrote:
If you don't agree with me that both players look scummy atm but Kirby might be easier to read in Day 2 because he posts more and is more aggressive. Then we don't have much to discuss.

If there are 6 votes on Kirby expect me to give the 7th.
But for now I believe Super is the best choice.

It seems like he thinks both are very similar in scumminess.

Then, with no reasoning, he accuses me of tunneling, being full of shit, and starts attacking Super and hard defending Kirby.

He also gave this nonsense reason for a town read on Kirby:
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On July 14 2013 08:02 Koshi wrote:
On July 14 2013 07:22 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 14 2013 07:11 Koshi wrote:
@hzflank
That is a really impressing post. I would give you a cookie but I will give you this instead.
##Vote: Superfluous

I also like the kirby case but kirby hasn't posted in the last 20 hours. So I am reluctant to put my vote on him. Kirby has proven that he can make big analytical posts or at least is willing to do so. He has proven that he can pick up on 1 scummier sentence in a big convincing pro town post. So I would like to give kirby the chance to do this before I put my vote on him.


What?! Find one. Now. Please.

The joking one. I didn't say it was good. I am just saying that he is willing to do so.



By this logic, he is protecting Kirby, no? Making both scum? Why the rush to lynch Koshi over Kirby?
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