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Xzavier
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Xzavier
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Nightcat, a hardcore lurker at the time. now he was not invited to join this team, i dont recall him asking to either, i just remember him following the wishes of it.(However indirectly as it may be) This blinks scummy on my scumdar. On July 15 2013 08:19 Nightcat99 wrote: no i cannot make a case to not vote for jrkirby because i stated that i want to make sure to have 1 person lynch, when i came back it seem super was the more likely target but since you guys disagree. ##UNVOTE ##VOTE JRKIRBY being given the option of switching his vote for a simple reason of "since you guys disagree" and not making a case or updating any reads is bad, because its a super easy for scum to hide without drawing any attention to himself. his entire reason for voting is "the person whos more likely to be lynched" thats a roundabout way of describing a scums voting pattern. they want to blend in and not stick out. So throwing his vote early and the person more likely to be lynched is a great way to lurk successfully. My scumdar says Scum on nightcat right now ______ now im happy with how hurricane reacted to me saying keep your circle small and that further solidifies my stupidly massive town read on him(sponge) (scum would want to try to control as many votes as possible, they would already control the "holes" in there town circle) so the people saying that one of the three is scum, its not him: The points brought up against rainbow has totally shattered the confidence of my town read on him, his actions are nonsensical. I think that Usami is town still as he has played a far more pro-town game and has cut out almost all of his spam (from games iv previously played with him) while i know meta is bad to use for a case in newbie games, but i feel like a scum wouldnt try so hard to improve his town play as they would replicate it. This is another reason for my Umasi read after all of that. if we are assuming scum tried to get one player onto the "tribunal" they were either succesful and got Rainbows on it, or used it as an excuse for nightcat to sheep his vote. | ||
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On July 16 2013 07:20 Hurricane Sponge wrote: I'd like to hear people's thoughts on a matter regarding last night's Near-Lynch of Superfluous: Superfluous' vote stayed on Xzavier all day, even in the face of his own impending lynch. Any sane person looking to save themselves would have put that vote onto Kirby at some point late in the day, whether they were Town or Scum. I've tried to logic it out, but I can't come up with anything that seem plausible. Can anyone come up with reasons for Town and / or for Scum to behave like this? mabye just giving up? but as it played out that doesnt seem to be the case. Mabye it was to avoid looking like scum and panicking to do everythign possible to stay alive, but if that was the case he would have been doing his best to make strong cases against me, but he made a case against another person. i see no logic. yeah, i got nothing to. | ||
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Xzavier
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On July 16 2013 07:24 Nightcat99 wrote: it seems like i am getting a lot of heat for my early lurking but i feel that i have explain and apologize for that enough. so i will just do my best from this point on and show my activity level and not make any more rash decision. scumhunting is the core of any town player, They dive filters and try to find scum. Surviving until the end is how scum win, no matter what play they make being the last one alive is the goal. Of course town wants to surivive as well, which is what makes this into an actual game, but the more you scumhunt (logically) the more townie you appear to be, For town scumhunting accomplishes both of their goals, so dont think "how can i make this up to you" because the answer is finding scum and winning the game. Also scum wants to appease the town and basically take the mindset of "how can i correct my mistakes" dont just be active, scumhunt. | ||
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I think that player A is scum. i get night killed. therefore player A must be scum removing a potential threat right? not really, becasuse scum might be player B killing me just so everybody thinks its player A thats scum. thats basically as simple an explanation of wifom i can give | ||
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i dont have work wednesday so ill be active then for sure :D i just wanted to throw that out after the night post | ||
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sup super. ##VOTE SUPERFLUOUS this will be removed once you start some LIGIT scumhunting none of that "vote for one guy, make a case on another guy" bullshits okay? if i dont think youve done an adequate job/you look more scummy as the day goes on expect this to stay, and a case to be made along with it. | ||
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so your crazy last minute swich to gotard was a plan to lynch him???? it would be one thing if you asked everybody to swtich to gotard now and then made a case, but without even a case saying "lets all lynch him in the last momeny" thats something that i called you out on and you responded to correctly? im really worried that your bringing it up now. dont get me wrong i still think your town, but stop being so damn scum today! my townread on you has gone down from "id eat my shirt if he flipped scum" to "your still more pro-town than everybody else" stop before it falls further, please | ||
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On July 16 2013 10:20 Superfluous wrote: I get the feeling you barely even know what you are saying. It's like you see when other people raise criticisms of me then copy them exactly. Also, it feels SO SCUMMY that you and Umasi are so quick to vote an hour into the day. Don't forget that after the jkirby lynch a decent amount of town said that they felt it was too easy and a town-town lynch, including rainbows who is dead and proved town. I'd also like to go back on what I said about umasi. Generally I feel it is a good, pro-town move to put pressure on people and get info from them. On day one he pushed me and jrkirby and it didn't work out. Now that's not the worst thing in the world, but then that he immediately goes back and puts pressure on me instead of forcing info/ reads from other people which is much more productive. It's fine that I'm his biggest scum read and he wants to vote for me, but why the rush to vote? It doesn't make him scum, but I don't feel he's clearly town anymore. no. votes this early arnt looking for lynches, they are looking to motivate fellow possible scum/lurkers to be more god damn pro-town. votes early in the day are generally pressure lynches. fuck i told you what you had to do to get my vote off you. | ||
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why shit? this could be a jailkeeper or a scum roleblocker. now im worried about you? | ||
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On July 16 2013 10:36 Alakaslam wrote: Appears they may. However you may have been jailed too. Hmm. I actually don't think jailer should claim if he did, actually I don't know if it was wise to claim this Chrom. I don't know though, how does it help town? was this even a question? fuck no the JK shoudlnt claim, thats stupid. and yes chrom should have claimed, if nobody else claims they were roleblocked we now know that in this game there is atleast 1 of the following two, a town JK, or a scum RB. If we get another roleblocked claim then we know we have both. this helps town because this gives town more information. having the JK claim gifts a power role to scum. please stop | ||
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On July 16 2013 10:38 Chromatically wrote: So Xzavier: Rainbows, Koshi, and Super were your top 3 scumreads, even though you never explain your reads on Koshi or Rainbows. Then what is this? Are you expecting me to believe that you made a case on your FOURTH best scumread before making a case on ANY of the top three? How about i was BRINGING NEW INFORMATION to the table? i saw somethign new, and i posted it because i dont think very many other people saw it. i dont think i ever said once in that that nightcat was my top scumread. just a scumread, i never actually put them in order, and that was my mistake | ||
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NEW SHIT!!!!! ___ MY TAKE ON OLD SHIT!!!! sorry, ill invert it next time | ||
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On July 16 2013 10:46 Chromatically wrote: Anyway, these NKs don't make any sense at all, they were two highly likely mislynches for today. Scum + SK is Gotard+Nightcat+Xzavier with an outside chance of Super. Everyone else is really town (yes, including Onegu and Alaka). because logic? | ||
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On July 16 2013 10:52 Nightcat99 wrote: and can anyone explain why i am getting so much heat, i mean i have explained the early lurking but guess theres a problem with if i was lieing or not here but theres no way for me to prove that unless you guys want a copy of my plane ticket  and as far as the early day random roles, i through iwas out of time and i have to vote. your getting heat for making excuses for your lurking (which is okay to give, but not enough alone) and not scumhunting, the more you scumhunt the less heat you get. | ||
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