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Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 19:41 GMT
#1819
To spell it out (I'd do this during nighttime usually, but the NK was so wacky I'm going to stop WIFOMing the night actions):

Mafia:

Alakaslam
Gotard
Super

SK:
Xzavier

In that order of confidence.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:04 GMT
#1830
May as well make the cases for all of them while I'm here (I'll be out for the deadline starting at 5:30pm Eastern USA time, which shouldn't be a problem since the hz plan calls for us to lock our votes in an hour ahead of time):

Alakaslam:

Jumped into the trap laid by myself, hz, and (unwittingly) Onegu -

On July 18 2013 03:26 Alakaslam wrote:
Ebwop 2 of my posts up


In other words why not Hzflank? He voted you too and was the only other one who then switched his vote, causing me to be solo


Backs off his pressure of me IMMEDIATELY upon figuring out that he has fallen into said trap:

On July 18 2013 03:36 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 03:33 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
And there goes the ninja voteswap. Alakaslam is panicking now.

That happened as soon as I finished the point where I said stop talking about the tribunal because SVENGALI

if I was panicked I'd not say that

ONEGU COME TUNNEL

:D


Echoes unfounded support of Super by his predecessor cloud-9 -

On July 18 2013 04:16 Alakaslam wrote:
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On July 18 2013 04:12 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
@Alakaslam

What do you think of Superfluous?

Town ish but why is he gone.

Let me look you up or I will wind up not answering you



On July 14 2013 13:54 cloud-9 wrote:
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On July 14 2013 13:31 Chromatically wrote:
I just reread hz's case, and I really don't like it. He calls out a lot of things that aren't actually scummy. Look at the summary:

To conclude, Super's priorities seem to be
1) Stay Alive
2) Find a person to vote for
3) Find justifications for voting

This is literally a list of objectives as either alignment. Town obviously wants to stay alive. Finding a person to vote for with reasoning is also town.

The difference between the alignments is that town want to find scum, and mafia doesn't actually want to. Super looks like he's honestly trying to find scum.

I agree that these objectives can belong to either alighnment and it is my intuition at this present moment that super is being earnest in his attempts to find scum.


Had a scum read on Chrom he never pressured:

*QUOTE UNAVAILABLE. NO EVIDENCE OF PRESSURE EVER DETECTED*

Unwilling to carry on a conversation. Due to inability to explain his actions? Devolves to 'No U' when not appropriate:

On July 18 2013 03:22 Alakaslam wrote:
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On July 18 2013 03:13 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 18 2013 03:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 18 2013 02:25 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
@Alakaslam

I'm very eager to hear your thoughts on my answers to Onegu's case.

I like them, you did quite well. But that isn't why I voted you.



Meta meta! Thou art a bombastically assured individual this game, not the hurricane I know*. Then again I have changed some as well.

Of course, at this point I am solo voting you**, why do this in majority***? So see the thread. I had already liked a Gotard lynch before****.


*: Using meta

**: Misrepreseting facts (see: lying)

***: WIFOM

****: Unwillingness to vote Gotard despite scum read

Not a good look, slambro.

You are doing much of what you accuse me of in here by doing this

Not good look

Rofl


Declares that I was 'wrong' about what was going on in the scum QT. Not 'he couldn't have known' (as Onegu said). But that I was actually definitively 'wrong' about what was going on there:

On July 17 2013 00:56 Alakaslam wrote:
Oh yeah him being wrong about qt- does this not point to him being null, he could make same mistake town or scum


This reaction to the Roleblock:

On July 16 2013 10:32 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 10:30 Chromatically wrote:
I was roleblocked.

Shit


(This point continued at the bottom of the page. It's important to set this point up organically, as you will see)

Fearful of the Tribunal (a natural scum reaction if they were three townies):
On July 16 2013 00:50 Alakaslam wrote:
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On July 15 2013 23:52 hzflank wrote:
Just caught up. Initial thoughts:

Chrom and Super are not both scum. That's the only really solid association that I see. Chrom started to heavily defend Super 8 hours before the lynch, and that would never of happened if they were both scum. So to the people who are already making that association I suggest that you think along other lines.

I do not like that whole council thing. It made it too easy to sheep. It was too early in the game for players to have such solid town reads on each other. I almost feel like people tried to put a reverse-sheep on me where I was told I that I should not move my vote (I will vote as I think best, I do not need other people to give me reasons to vote).

First order of business is to be a play by play on the council thing.

That whole council shpeil is based on too much NMM XLIII meta anyway. How the hell was that formed day 1... It like begging for Svengali play.

Please google Svengali, outside of the context of mafia, if you don't get it. It's a French novel that I haven't read but that I know the gist of.

Umasi where is the Chezzy post? Need it buried in a GOOD case


(Quick point on the above, neither Umasi and Rainbows were in NMM XLIII. Not sure what he's talking about here)

Jarring disparate read on two of the townies townies since Lady Galadritown went town shopping in Townton Abbey:

On July 15 2013 11:51 Alakaslam wrote:
Dude Lose shit meter 100%, in the total opposite fashion to other games. I have LOST IT! I neeeeeeeed to read. If I don't I would tunnel Chrom and Umasi into the dirt even if one flipped town. Gimme a sec!


Continuing with the reaction to the roleblock:

On July 16 2013 10:36 Alakaslam wrote:
Appears they ed: (the mafia) may (have a roleblocker). However you may have been jailed too.

Hmm.

I actually don't think jailer should claim if he did, actually I don't know if it was wise to claim this Chrom. I don't know though, how does it help town?


Now I want to reference the Night 1 flips. I assumed the SK killed Koshi (scum read) and mafia killed Rainbows (town read to me). I posted with this assumption, and hz jumped down my throat for it. Now remember, Chrom was one of Alakaslam's hardest Scum reads. Why would Alakaslam assume the mafia roleblocked him if he were scum? Wouldn't he assume the Town roleblocked him?
-----------------------------------------
The above is my case for Alakaslam being scum.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:08 GMT
#1831
On July 18 2013 04:55 Gotard wrote:
What's the point of lynching Superfluous right now? Since he's gone there's no discussion around him. his case was closed after first day. He can only hope that people will think that day one was town-town lynch which is the case.


Whoa, what? You think Superfluous is town?
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:09 GMT
#1832
EBWOP: Oh, my heart stopped. I thought that was Onegu saying that. Just gotard, no worries.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:11 GMT
#1834
On July 18 2013 05:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 04:25 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 18 2013 04:22 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 15 2013 07:22 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 15 2013 07:19 hzflank wrote:
On July 15 2013 06:47 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 15 2013 05:56 hzflank wrote:
On July 15 2013 05:46 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
I'd be on board for a gotard hammer if someone can make a good case that mafia are on this wagon pushing for a mislynch.


You don't think that Mafia are on that wagon? From my position you are on the scummy wagon.

I am reading Gotard again. I did not think that the cases against him were strong, but on the other hand Gotard's filter after 24 hours was horrible. The problem that I have with reading his more recent posts is that I am struggling to separate an alignment read from a personality read. I think Gotard could very well be scum, but I still think that Super is more likely.

If you look at Chrom's defense of Super, almost every point was that it was bad play rather than scum play. When you make that many consecutive defenses and call them all bad play then alarm bells should be ringing.


Elaborate on this if you can, hz.


Gotard is scummy. Stim is still at least in the top 5 of my scum list. Nightcat is a lurker who just randomly added his vote. Chrom is neutral at best. At best that wagon has 2 scummy, 2 neutral and 2 townie players on it.

The other wagon has Umasi, who I think is townie. Xzavier who is neutral (too much lurking, his posts are not good enough to make up for that that much lurking) and Koshi. Some other people have been calling Koshi scum recently, but I have him as neutral.


Mmmmmmmmm nope. I like Chrom's answer better:

On July 15 2013 05:48 Chromatically wrote:
The three scummiest people in the game (Kirby, Koshi, Xzav) are on the Super wagon.


& like I said this makes no sense.

These three scummiest in the game? What about jkirby & superfluous? Righto, Svengali. Wide eyes, mesmerized, ain't he clever? Righto, Svengali!

Obviously I felt the two candidates were scummier. Don't take your deficient reading comprehension out on me.

Onegu where is your case on me for sayin it twice now?

And the fact that you thought these isn't the point, that would just be captain hindsight. It would just mean you liked the idea that there were very likely 5 scum in the game.

No, it means that the people who I trusted the least were on one bandwagon compared to people I trusted more on another. I can't believe you've never explored this avenue of logic. It's pretty intuitive.

This has nothing to do with my meta ideas though

This is just tunnel coming from trying to express that somehow

So take with salt


Do I look intuitive to you?

This actually makes stronger a previous point of mine regarding myself.

However I now believe I can help town by this, which is so hard by phone I actually got to a PC. (I need to get P.O. Numbers for my fuel purchases anyway).

+ Show Spoiler +
Oh this is so much easier not needing to type bbcode
And find Images! :D

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Wooohoooo
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My theme song



Are you soft-claiming a PR?
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:13 GMT
#1840
On July 18 2013 05:11 Chromatically wrote:
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On July 18 2013 05:09 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
EBWOP: Oh, my heart stopped. I thought that was Onegu saying that. Just gotard, no worries.

Gotard has been scum on Super, that's still a problem.


Sort of. He was an entrenched vote on Kirby when Super was a candidate Day 1. He thinks super is scum in words only, not with his vote.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:15 GMT
#1842
On July 18 2013 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:11 Xzavier wrote:
alaka, respond to his case, dont just try to pass it off as: "SEE THESE FUCKUPS I MADE PROOVE HIM MORE SCUM"

actually tell us why the inconsistencies and defend youself.

dont tunnel him so hard that you ignore cases against yourself.

Problem is part of what he wants me to do is explain why I am suspicious of him.

I'm not gonna defend myself, svengali has you all mesmerized. If I flip this will help more than defending myself against him, if he's town defending against him is scum's job.


What? If I'm town, it's scum's job to defend you from me?

Did you just admit you're scum?
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:17 GMT
#1846
On July 18 2013 05:16 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:15 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:11 Xzavier wrote:
alaka, respond to his case, dont just try to pass it off as: "SEE THESE FUCKUPS I MADE PROOVE HIM MORE SCUM"

actually tell us why the inconsistencies and defend youself.

dont tunnel him so hard that you ignore cases against yourself.

Problem is part of what he wants me to do is explain why I am suspicious of him.

I'm not gonna defend myself, svengali has you all mesmerized. If I flip this will help more than defending myself against him, if he's town defending against him is scum's job.


What? If I'm town, it's scum's job to defend you from me?

Did you just admit you're scum?

I mean if I'm scum of course I'll defend. If I'm town I don't give a rat's ass so I don't

Where is the bus if I'm scum


If you refuse to defend yourself, I guess that's your prerogative. But I hope you have a plan.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:17 GMT
#1849
On July 18 2013 05:16 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:13 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:11 Chromatically wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:09 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
EBWOP: Oh, my heart stopped. I thought that was Onegu saying that. Just gotard, no worries.

Gotard has been scum on Super, that's still a problem.


Sort of. He was an entrenched vote on Kirby when Super was a candidate Day 1. He thinks super is scum in words only, not with his vote.

Yes? He's said that Super is top 2 scum for him and then just called him town.


I think we're arguing the same thing. That both Gotard and Super are scum.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:20 GMT
#1854
On July 18 2013 05:19 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:18 Xzavier wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:17 Xzavier wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:15 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:11 Xzavier wrote:
alaka, respond to his case, dont just try to pass it off as: "SEE THESE FUCKUPS I MADE PROOVE HIM MORE SCUM"

actually tell us why the inconsistencies and defend youself.

dont tunnel him so hard that you ignore cases against yourself.

Problem is part of what he wants me to do is explain why I am suspicious of him.

I'm not gonna defend myself, svengali has you all mesmerized. If I flip this will help more than defending myself against him, if he's town defending against him is scum's job.


What? If I'm town, it's scum's job to defend you from me?

Did you just admit you're scum?

I mean if I'm scum of course I'll defend. If I'm town I don't give a rat's ass so I don't

Where is the bus if I'm scum


why the fuck would scum need to bus you yet????


you seriously think your position right now is that your lynch is unavoidable O.O

i dont get it, at all.

YES


Alakaslam, I love you. But if this is your attitude, Forum Mafia may not be your game, friend.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:23 GMT
#1856
Wait, alakaslam thought I was scummy. Why is he packing it in as if I represent the entire town vote?

As town: A guy I think is scum accuses me. Play: Defend and counter-attack!

As scum: A guy I know has huge town cred attacks me. Play: Curl up and cry.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:24 GMT
#1858
WOW

For the record my post just now was not reactive. I was constructing it simultaneously. That is amazing how well I called that.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:26 GMT
#1862
On July 18 2013 05:22 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:19 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:18 Xzavier wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:17 Xzavier wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:15 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:11 Xzavier wrote:
alaka, respond to his case, dont just try to pass it off as: "SEE THESE FUCKUPS I MADE PROOVE HIM MORE SCUM"

actually tell us why the inconsistencies and defend youself.

dont tunnel him so hard that you ignore cases against yourself.

Problem is part of what he wants me to do is explain why I am suspicious of him.

I'm not gonna defend myself, svengali has you all mesmerized. If I flip this will help more than defending myself against him, if he's town defending against him is scum's job.


What? If I'm town, it's scum's job to defend you from me?

Did you just admit you're scum?

I mean if I'm scum of course I'll defend. If I'm town I don't give a rat's ass so I don't

Where is the bus if I'm scum


why the fuck would scum need to bus you yet????


you seriously think your position right now is that your lynch is unavoidable O.O

i dont get it, at all.

YES

Well let me explain.

Oneg had a case against hs that I thought was ok and he did defend really well. Then I had meta vibes, he's not playing like the strong town I once saw*. He is playing far more. . . I don't know, capably and with more influence. He is basically controlling town at this point.** I think that's great when there have been successful lynches but not when every single one seems to land on town**, yet with great cases. When scum has a great svengali esque leader, town loses- LOSES! It is better that one die and point this out with his death than that he go defending himself and give svengali more towncred.



*Not playing strong enough
**Playing too strong
*** There has been one (1) lynch

Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:29 GMT
#1863
If this were plurality, I'd be pushing for a 'slam lynch right now. I believe he is the slightly scummier player. Since it is majority, I'm extremely pleased we have the votes for a Gotard lynch. They're scum numbers #1 and #1a to me. Go forward with the Gotard lynch. We'll get Slam tomorrow if anyone has thoughts on my case. (assuming the game doesn't end tonight if Gotard is somehow a mislynch and the stupid SK kills a townie)
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:32 GMT
#1867
Sponge's Official Meta
Dictated (but not read) by Professor Emeritus Alakaslam:

And Lo! Shall the Hurricane known as Sponge not be allowed to have fun at the silliness that may ensue in The Game. For that shall be deemed inconsistent with his demeanor most dour.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:36 GMT
#1872
Constructive criticism?

On July 17 2013 09:54 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 09:27 Nightcat99 wrote:
I have been reading the filters again for gotard and super and here is what i think.
On July 13 2013 19:53 Gotard wrote:
Hello! After some lurking (jk I was sleeping) i'd like to share my thoughts:


On July 13 2013 20:12 Gotard wrote:
On July 13 2013 19:57 Chromatically wrote:
Gotard, who do you want to lynch?

Easy question. Umasi and Xzavier!!! (jk)


On July 14 2013 05:32 Gotard wrote:

"On top of that, he's barely posted, hasn't posted an original scumread, and has pressured no one.". It's hard to post "original scumread" when you are in EU timezone and game is the most active when you sleep. Do you want me to talk to myself? rotfl. (That was a little scummy excuse T_T). I do what I can do which is more passive play.


On July 16 2013 02:44 Gotard wrote:

Getting mad after misreading. Emotional plays like that indicates bad town to me. Unless he wants to fake being mad after I defended Stim.

And the most important note : he can't spell my name.


On July 16 2013 03:40 Gotard wrote:
On July 16 2013 03:33 Koshi wrote:
Gotard, How can I become good town?

You need to become town first. Play again!?


On July 17 2013 07:33 Gotard wrote:
Wanted to check stuff before going to sleep.
(offtopic I might add you on osu! later if I will remember)[



He has been adding in j/k and other things in his post to make his posting seem much more relax then it is and thats a very scummy read to me. Plus it can be a precaution for future slip ups. Also he most recent post after long hour of lurking didnt help the situation but seems to make things worst

On July 17 2013 07:27 Gotard wrote:
My top reads:

Town:
-Umasi
-Onegu

Mafia:
Superfluous - still didn't do anything pro town except for out of place cop advice. But everyone assumes town-town lynch day 1. Problem is that we couldn't move our votes freely because this tribunal thingy and there wasn't enough place for mafia to make big plays even when they would like to defend him. Another this is that Chromatically defended him so mafia didn't even have to do that. To be honest jrkirby's case on me could be good enough to put him as 2nd lynch but someone needed to put some effort into highlighting that. That is why even when that lynch looked like it was town-town it might not be the case.

On July 16 2013 10:59 Superfluous wrote:
For once I agree with Xzavier, Maf don't have to role block so they could just skip a night and say one of them got role blocked. That said I doubt they'd do it night one.

This post looks like "hey everyone! Mafia don't have a role blocker!".

Nightcat99 - Ask questions that you can easily google and find answers in 10 seconds. Shitload of useless one/two liners. 4 pages of bad content.

Off-topic: I was surprised that you can post during the day in my first game, but you should check it...


i mean his top 2 town read were umasi, who no one has accused and onegu, who replaced stim, who gave alot of tells, athough nothing is for sure, no one is accusing onegu mainly because os stims blowup.

his mafia picks superfluous , the current most voted person , and me which isnt even an accusation.

I would vote gotard at a heart beat atm, but i am still hoping super would come back and post somethings before i put my vote in, beside there is plenty of time left.




This is interesting analysis. Thank you for posting it. (Trying to be encouraging to new players who are bringing unique analysis to the scumhunt)

Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:37 GMT
#1875
You know what they say. There's nothing in the world more terrible than that moment in an argument that you realize you are wrong.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:41 GMT
#1877
On July 18 2013 05:37 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:29 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
We'll get Slam tomorrow if anyone has thoughts on my case. (assuming the game doesn't end tonight if Gotard is somehow a mislynch and the stupid SK kills a townie)


We can think about who we pressure tomorrow after we see a flip. Lets just start by lynching scum today.

The game cannot end yet due to night actions. Even if the town were to end up outnumbered by the scum, with the SK in the game almost anything could happen. Regardless, the ideal situation would be to lynch red today.


Mislynch, successful scum NK, SK hits a townie. That's game over in some formats because the Mafia equal the Townies (3 to 3). There was a game on TL mafia very recently involving a Survivor (I think it was Wave of Shadow?) where the admin said that once the mafia equal the number of town, it's endgame: winner Mafia.

Can we get a ruling for this game? Is it still game on if it's 3/3/1?
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:41 GMT
#1878
On July 18 2013 05:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:36 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Constructive criticism?

On July 17 2013 09:54 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 17 2013 09:27 Nightcat99 wrote:
I have been reading the filters again for gotard and super and here is what i think.
On July 13 2013 19:53 Gotard wrote:
Hello! After some lurking (jk I was sleeping) i'd like to share my thoughts:


On July 13 2013 20:12 Gotard wrote:
On July 13 2013 19:57 Chromatically wrote:
Gotard, who do you want to lynch?

Easy question. Umasi and Xzavier!!! (jk)


On July 14 2013 05:32 Gotard wrote:

"On top of that, he's barely posted, hasn't posted an original scumread, and has pressured no one.". It's hard to post "original scumread" when you are in EU timezone and game is the most active when you sleep. Do you want me to talk to myself? rotfl. (That was a little scummy excuse T_T). I do what I can do which is more passive play.


On July 16 2013 02:44 Gotard wrote:

Getting mad after misreading. Emotional plays like that indicates bad town to me. Unless he wants to fake being mad after I defended Stim.

And the most important note : he can't spell my name.


On July 16 2013 03:40 Gotard wrote:
On July 16 2013 03:33 Koshi wrote:
Gotard, How can I become good town?

You need to become town first. Play again!?


On July 17 2013 07:33 Gotard wrote:
Wanted to check stuff before going to sleep.
(offtopic I might add you on osu! later if I will remember)[



He has been adding in j/k and other things in his post to make his posting seem much more relax then it is and thats a very scummy read to me. Plus it can be a precaution for future slip ups. Also he most recent post after long hour of lurking didnt help the situation but seems to make things worst

On July 17 2013 07:27 Gotard wrote:
My top reads:

Town:
-Umasi
-Onegu

Mafia:
Superfluous - still didn't do anything pro town except for out of place cop advice. But everyone assumes town-town lynch day 1. Problem is that we couldn't move our votes freely because this tribunal thingy and there wasn't enough place for mafia to make big plays even when they would like to defend him. Another this is that Chromatically defended him so mafia didn't even have to do that. To be honest jrkirby's case on me could be good enough to put him as 2nd lynch but someone needed to put some effort into highlighting that. That is why even when that lynch looked like it was town-town it might not be the case.

On July 16 2013 10:59 Superfluous wrote:
For once I agree with Xzavier, Maf don't have to role block so they could just skip a night and say one of them got role blocked. That said I doubt they'd do it night one.

This post looks like "hey everyone! Mafia don't have a role blocker!".

Nightcat99 - Ask questions that you can easily google and find answers in 10 seconds. Shitload of useless one/two liners. 4 pages of bad content.

Off-topic: I was surprised that you can post during the day in my first game, but you should check it...


i mean his top 2 town read were umasi, who no one has accused and onegu, who replaced stim, who gave alot of tells, athough nothing is for sure, no one is accusing onegu mainly because os stims blowup.

his mafia picks superfluous , the current most voted person , and me which isnt even an accusation.

I would vote gotard at a heart beat atm, but i am still hoping super would come back and post somethings before i put my vote in, beside there is plenty of time left.




This is interesting analysis. Thank you for posting it. (Trying to be encouraging to new players who are bringing unique analysis to the scumhunt)


What did nightcat do wrong there
that is just acknowledgement of trying and good yes but one must be willing to give to town for svengali play


So... not being nice enough... but when I'm being nice it's an obvious scum play.

Do you see the problem here?
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On July 18 2013 05:43 Alakaslam wrote:
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On July 18 2013 05:41 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:37 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:36 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Constructive criticism?

On July 17 2013 09:54 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 17 2013 09:27 Nightcat99 wrote:
I have been reading the filters again for gotard and super and here is what i think.
On July 13 2013 19:53 Gotard wrote:
Hello! After some lurking (jk I was sleeping) i'd like to share my thoughts:


On July 13 2013 20:12 Gotard wrote:
On July 13 2013 19:57 Chromatically wrote:
Gotard, who do you want to lynch?

Easy question. Umasi and Xzavier!!! (jk)


On July 14 2013 05:32 Gotard wrote:

"On top of that, he's barely posted, hasn't posted an original scumread, and has pressured no one.". It's hard to post "original scumread" when you are in EU timezone and game is the most active when you sleep. Do you want me to talk to myself? rotfl. (That was a little scummy excuse T_T). I do what I can do which is more passive play.


On July 16 2013 02:44 Gotard wrote:

Getting mad after misreading. Emotional plays like that indicates bad town to me. Unless he wants to fake being mad after I defended Stim.

And the most important note : he can't spell my name.


On July 16 2013 03:40 Gotard wrote:
On July 16 2013 03:33 Koshi wrote:
Gotard, How can I become good town?

You need to become town first. Play again!?


On July 17 2013 07:33 Gotard wrote:
Wanted to check stuff before going to sleep.
(offtopic I might add you on osu! later if I will remember)[



He has been adding in j/k and other things in his post to make his posting seem much more relax then it is and thats a very scummy read to me. Plus it can be a precaution for future slip ups. Also he most recent post after long hour of lurking didnt help the situation but seems to make things worst

On July 17 2013 07:27 Gotard wrote:
My top reads:

Town:
-Umasi
-Onegu

Mafia:
Superfluous - still didn't do anything pro town except for out of place cop advice. But everyone assumes town-town lynch day 1. Problem is that we couldn't move our votes freely because this tribunal thingy and there wasn't enough place for mafia to make big plays even when they would like to defend him. Another this is that Chromatically defended him so mafia didn't even have to do that. To be honest jrkirby's case on me could be good enough to put him as 2nd lynch but someone needed to put some effort into highlighting that. That is why even when that lynch looked like it was town-town it might not be the case.

On July 16 2013 10:59 Superfluous wrote:
For once I agree with Xzavier, Maf don't have to role block so they could just skip a night and say one of them got role blocked. That said I doubt they'd do it night one.

This post looks like "hey everyone! Mafia don't have a role blocker!".

Nightcat99 - Ask questions that you can easily google and find answers in 10 seconds. Shitload of useless one/two liners. 4 pages of bad content.

Off-topic: I was surprised that you can post during the day in my first game, but you should check it...


i mean his top 2 town read were umasi, who no one has accused and onegu, who replaced stim, who gave alot of tells, athough nothing is for sure, no one is accusing onegu mainly because os stims blowup.

his mafia picks superfluous , the current most voted person , and me which isnt even an accusation.

I would vote gotard at a heart beat atm, but i am still hoping super would come back and post somethings before i put my vote in, beside there is plenty of time left.




This is interesting analysis. Thank you for posting it. (Trying to be encouraging to new players who are bringing unique analysis to the scumhunt)


What did nightcat do wrong there
that is just acknowledgement of trying and good yes but one must be willing to give to town for svengali play


So... not being nice enough... but when I'm being nice it's an obvious scum play.

Do you see the problem here?
Not an obvious scum play, this is more of a scum play than I was claiming that was! you are taking big leaps on what I say but won't tolerate any potential leap I make.

As for the comment about being wrong, don't lynch me then and stop tunneling. If you actually believe that I'd rather spare you the trouble.


I made a case on you that you refuse to defend. I've made my other reads public, and will post cases on them at Nighttime. The fact that you feel that 40 minutes of pressure is 'tunneling' seems like your problem, not mine.
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