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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 30 2013 03:22 GMT
#141
Something rubs me the wrong way about lazermonkeys posting

Starts off the thread not even wanting to scum hunt.

Throws down a troll vote early, see jaybrundage in roulette for how something innocent just pads your filter with bs.

Eager to jump on the stutters be before he has even defended himself

His 6th post is just insanely scummy read it and tell me otherwise

Rest of his filter is useless speculation

He gets my vote until I can talk with him more and get a better read

Can't vote right now as its much too precise to bold shit on an iPad but will contribute more when I'm home tomorrow night
I come in for the scraps
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 30 2013 03:25 GMT
#142
He instantly buddied marv after his miller claim which doesnt 100% confirm marv as town.

Its was like
'Miller claim please'
'im miller'
'k lets win game together marv'

Does anyone else not see that something is wrong?
No gg, No skill.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
June 30 2013 03:37 GMT
#143
On June 30 2013 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
He instantly buddied marv after his miller claim which doesnt 100% confirm marv as town.

Its was like
'Miller claim please'
'im miller'
'k lets win game together marv'

Does anyone else not see that something is wrong?


Pretty much my reasoning a little whole ago XD but actively looking for miller as a bud isn't scummy, its neutral, I would rather see what stutters pops, because he's less of an asset. If he flips red I cant see Ryan being scum, if we blindly lynch Rayne and he's town that'll just suck. Basically I rather risk stutters before Ryane XD. And yes this game is about hunting scum, not doing risk assessment but Rayne looks suspicious because he's in to good a manufactured position and stutters looks suspicious because he's made a mistake. I find the latter usually more damming so I swing more scum on him at the moment and it doesn't hurt that were risking less.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 30 2013 03:54 GMT
#144
the point is that he takes marv as confirmed town immediately and then buddies him.
Also why play the game so scared? I dont think stutters is scum bu t rayn is.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 30 2013 03:58 GMT
#145
Rayn doesnt look good, he is all around the place asking people questions and no follow up and shit.
No gg, No skill.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
June 30 2013 04:00 GMT
#146
my inbox is evergreen

lots of scummy shit happening right now, so let's get to work.

this is the scummiest post in the thread so far:

On June 30 2013 07:00 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 06:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is no way there are 2 millers in the game so cut talking about that as a possibility already.

Know something we don't? The op lists two possible millers as roles.


Look at the thought process here. Rayn seems sure there are not 2 millers in the game-->Rayn knows how many millers are in the game-->Rayn is scum. For this jump to be made, Stutters would have to think scum know how many millers are in the game to get a scummy vibe from Rayn. This makes zero sense. Can't wait to hear your answer on this one my dear stutters.

Early town read on Rayn for diving on this. His reaction exactly matched mine. I don't agree at all with your town read on Lazer though, Rayn.

Look at how much time he has spent on Marv's miller claim. You know how to deal with a miller claim? You ignore it. All it means is don't DT check the person and that's it. Figure out their alignment just like you would anybody else. The fact that he goes on and on about it looks to me not like he is trying to get at Marv's alignment, but rather he is feeling comfortable talking about a very safe topic in preference to anything of consequence. When he made this quote:

On June 30 2013 09:33 Lazermonkey wrote:
But what do you want to talk about then?

While I agree talking about his claim isn't very productive untill more players have showed up, I'd rather talk about Marv than nothing.


...there was plenty to talk about. Doesn't sit right with me. More, his conclusion from the discussion should be the public assertion that Marv is not 100% confirmed town. He mentions this, but hesitates to draw a line between scummy or wrong for the people who are saying otherwise (Rayn). Smells fishy.

Vivax-

What are you doing here?

On June 30 2013 07:45 Vivax wrote:
Marv so silent.

Whassup marv.

That seems unusual.


Passively flinging shit on a guy who is probably not here, and said activity would be light in the early going? Explain yourself. Explain this too while you're at it:

On June 30 2013 07:59 Vivax wrote:
Well ok. I reviewed things a little.

We have 2 guys saying their activity will be shit on D1 (marv and the new guy)

Then we have WoS say:
I'm not really going to be around until late tonight, so no

(as reply to "Hey you got anything to say?")

So yeah, kinda asshole answer. But also kinda careless. I'd treat it as null, and it's not really comparable to the announcement that the whole of D1 will be of low activity.

I also realized I partially parroted Rayn's reasons for stutter's posts looking bad. Apologies I'm a little drunk coz of my weekend feast and wrote pretty spontaneously. Going to bed now tho. See you sober.


Who gives a shit? Why are you so self-conscious?

Anyway, little break now. More in just a bit.

ATOBTTR
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
June 30 2013 04:00 GMT
#147
On June 30 2013 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
He instantly buddied marv after his miller claim which doesnt 100% confirm marv as town.

Its was like
'Miller claim please'
'im miller'
'k lets win game together marv'

Does anyone else not see that something is wrong?
Agree. I also think it's wierd that he's already twice called Lazer a townread. I'm not seeing why he'd think that based on what lazer's posted so far.

I also don't see what's scummy about stutters. Here's his vote for him:
On June 30 2013 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually no, Stutters' last post makes no sense from town point of view.
##Vote: Stutters
And here's the post in question:
On June 30 2013 07:06 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Stutters what do you think about Lazer's post?
Also what do you think about WoS' posts?

I think he's lazy and didn't read the op/didn't comprehend, nbd.

WoS I'm not sure. My French is really rusty so I haven't even really tried to read them but I don't like the fact he's typing in a way clearly everyone won't understand. Can't really judge it this early without just WIFOMing myself for ages.
I don't quite get what he's saying here. Why doesn't that post make sense for town?
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
June 30 2013 04:01 GMT
#148
On June 30 2013 12:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
the point is that he takes marv as confirmed town immediately and then buddies him.
Also why play the game so scared? I dont think stutters is scum bu t rayn is.

That's just how I play :p nothing wrong with a smidge of fear. People are like vintage yugioh cards to me, I'm constantly scarred my mom will throw them away, even if she's right and they're secretly teeming with evil Egyptian spirits. Anyways good night all. I'm off to bed.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
June 30 2013 04:04 GMT
#149
On June 30 2013 13:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
He instantly buddied marv after his miller claim which doesnt 100% confirm marv as town.

Its was like
'Miller claim please'
'im miller'
'k lets win game together marv'

Does anyone else not see that something is wrong?
Agree. I also think it's wierd that he's already twice called Lazer a townread. I'm not seeing why he'd think that based on what lazer's posted so far.

I also don't see what's scummy about stutters. Here's his vote for him:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually no, Stutters' last post makes no sense from town point of view.
##Vote: Stutters
And here's the post in question:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 07:06 Stutters695 wrote:
On June 30 2013 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Stutters what do you think about Lazer's post?
Also what do you think about WoS' posts?

I think he's lazy and didn't read the op/didn't comprehend, nbd.

WoS I'm not sure. My French is really rusty so I haven't even really tried to read them but I don't like the fact he's typing in a way clearly everyone won't understand. Can't really judge it this early without just WIFOMing myself for ages.
I don't quite get what he's saying here. Why doesn't that post make sense for town?



My issue is he takes off after pressure turns on him, he stops contributing in hopes of saving himself, that strikes me as a noob scum messing up and trying to wait out the pressure. Which by the sound of your exoneration he's already done.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
June 30 2013 04:10 GMT
#150
On June 30 2013 13:00 s0Lstice wrote:
this is the scummiest post in the thread so far:

Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 07:00 Stutters695 wrote:
On June 30 2013 06:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is no way there are 2 millers in the game so cut talking about that as a possibility already.

Know something we don't? The op lists two possible millers as roles.


Look at the thought process here. Rayn seems sure there are not 2 millers in the game-->Rayn knows how many millers are in the game-->Rayn is scum. For this jump to be made, Stutters would have to think scum know how many millers are in the game to get a scummy vibe from Rayn. This makes zero sense. Can't wait to hear your answer on this one my dear stutters.
How is the post scummy though? Yes, It's a pretty dumb statement because like you said: It makes no sense to think that scum would know how many millers are in the game. Which means there's no way the that it could implicate rayn as scum. So if any thought was given to that post, stutters would realize that. I think the fact that stutters clearly made the post without giving it much thought makes him more likely to be town.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 30 2013 04:10 GMT
#151
On June 30 2013 11:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is a serious contradiction in WoS' behaviour. Whoever can see that gains many townie points.

lol Rayn you're still a cutie.
For whoever it was that said they didn't like Rayn's play, I am altogether unconcerned atm. This is how Rayn plays, he tunnels and asks shitloads of questions. When marv shows up he'll likely have some long interaction with him, marv might call him dumb about something, then he'll switch tracks. We'll wait and see.

In other news, Vayne holy shit. Is that D1 analysis??
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 30 2013 04:15 GMT
#152
I dont see why as scum stutters would make the post everyone is jumping on him for.
he doesnt call rayn scum, he just says the facts which are that there which is that there can be 2 millers and rayn is assuming that there is one.
Seriously stutters is null as shit.

No gg, No skill.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
June 30 2013 04:15 GMT
#153
On June 30 2013 13:10 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 13:00 s0Lstice wrote:
this is the scummiest post in the thread so far:

On June 30 2013 07:00 Stutters695 wrote:
On June 30 2013 06:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is no way there are 2 millers in the game so cut talking about that as a possibility already.

Know something we don't? The op lists two possible millers as roles.


Look at the thought process here. Rayn seems sure there are not 2 millers in the game-->Rayn knows how many millers are in the game-->Rayn is scum. For this jump to be made, Stutters would have to think scum know how many millers are in the game to get a scummy vibe from Rayn. This makes zero sense. Can't wait to hear your answer on this one my dear stutters.
How is the post scummy though? Yes, It's a pretty dumb statement because like you said: It makes no sense to think that scum would know how many millers are in the game. Which means there's no way the that it could implicate rayn as scum. So if any thought was given to that post, stutters would realize that. I think the fact that stutters clearly made the post without giving it much thought makes him more likely to be town.


If it could in no way implicate Rayn as scum, why did Stutters suggest Rayn is scum? Do townies suggest people are scum without considering the reason behind why they are doing so? Townies call people scum for BAD reasons, yes, but no townie does it without any reason at all. This is what scum do.

ATOBTTR
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 30 2013 04:18 GMT
#154
Oh and Rayn the reason I found yours and Vivax's posts different:
On June 30 2013 07:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 07:00 Stutters695 wrote:
On June 30 2013 06:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is no way there are 2 millers in the game so cut talking about that as a possibility already.

Know something we don't? The op lists two possible millers as roles.

rofl what's this? An accusation? Now if i was mafia how would i know how many millers there are in the game?
Also could you answer the quesions about Lazer/WoS?

You concentrate on the content of his post rather than the tone. At least that's the way I took it.
On June 30 2013 07:38 Vivax wrote:
Addendum to the stutters thing: Looks like a loaded question scum likes to ask earlygame. I don't really see how one would suspect Rayn to be scum for having "extra info" about miller when scum doesn't get any extra info in that regard either. Doesn't seem like the approach a townie would take in that case even if he genuinely believed that.

Ecco un voto per esprimere la mia discordanza e il mio sospetto


##Vote stutters

Vivax mentions both just as you do, but his comment on it being a loaded question and it not being an approach a townie would take speaks more of the mentality behind it than the action itself.


twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 30 2013 04:18 GMT
#155
On June 30 2013 13:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 11:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is a serious contradiction in WoS' behaviour. Whoever can see that gains many townie points.

lol Rayn you're still a cutie.
For whoever it was that said they didn't like Rayn's play, I am altogether unconcerned atm. This is how Rayn plays, he tunnels and asks shitloads of questions. When marv shows up he'll likely have some long interaction with him, marv might call him dumb about something, then he'll switch tracks. We'll wait and see.

In other news, Vayne holy shit. Is that D1 analysis??


Ya I might not be so nice after my vacation is over and a 9 hour drive tho

Gumshoe town methinks no reason yet
I come in for the scraps
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 30 2013 04:26 GMT
#156
On June 30 2013 13:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 13:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 30 2013 11:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is a serious contradiction in WoS' behaviour. Whoever can see that gains many townie points.

lol Rayn you're still a cutie.
For whoever it was that said they didn't like Rayn's play, I am altogether unconcerned atm. This is how Rayn plays, he tunnels and asks shitloads of questions. When marv shows up he'll likely have some long interaction with him, marv might call him dumb about something, then he'll switch tracks. We'll wait and see.

In other news, Vayne holy shit. Is that D1 analysis??


Ya I might not be so nice after my vacation is over and a 9 hour drive tho

Gumshoe town methinks no reason yet

Oh wait you just reminded me I was supposed to policy lynch you this game!
Except now you're acting differently than usual.
Which makes me want to lynch you.
Wat do?

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 30 2013 04:27 GMT
#157
On June 30 2013 13:00 s0Lstice wrote:
my inbox is evergreen

lots of scummy shit happening right now, so let's get to work.

this is the scummiest post in the thread so far:

Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 07:00 Stutters695 wrote:
On June 30 2013 06:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is no way there are 2 millers in the game so cut talking about that as a possibility already.

Know something we don't? The op lists two possible millers as roles.


Look at the thought process here. Rayn seems sure there are not 2 millers in the game-->Rayn knows how many millers are in the game-->Rayn is scum. For this jump to be made, Stutters would have to think scum know how many millers are in the game to get a scummy vibe from Rayn. This makes zero sense. Can't wait to hear your answer on this one my dear stutters.

Early town read on Rayn for diving on this. His reaction exactly matched mine. I don't agree at all with your town read on Lazer though, Rayn.

Look at how much time he has spent on Marv's miller claim. You know how to deal with a miller claim? You ignore it. All it means is don't DT check the person and that's it. Figure out their alignment just like you would anybody else. The fact that he goes on and on about it looks to me not like he is trying to get at Marv's alignment, but rather he is feeling comfortable talking about a very safe topic in preference to anything of consequence. When he made this quote:

Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 09:33 Lazermonkey wrote:
But what do you want to talk about then?

While I agree talking about his claim isn't very productive untill more players have showed up, I'd rather talk about Marv than nothing.


...there was plenty to talk about. Doesn't sit right with me. More, his conclusion from the discussion should be the public assertion that Marv is not 100% confirmed town. He mentions this, but hesitates to draw a line between scummy or wrong for the people who are saying otherwise (Rayn). Smells fishy.

Vivax-

What are you doing here?

Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 07:45 Vivax wrote:
Marv so silent.

Whassup marv.

That seems unusual.


Passively flinging shit on a guy who is probably not here, and said activity would be light in the early going? Explain yourself. Explain this too while you're at it:

Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 07:59 Vivax wrote:
Well ok. I reviewed things a little.

We have 2 guys saying their activity will be shit on D1 (marv and the new guy)

Then we have WoS say:
I'm not really going to be around until late tonight, so no

(as reply to "Hey you got anything to say?")

So yeah, kinda asshole answer. But also kinda careless. I'd treat it as null, and it's not really comparable to the announcement that the whole of D1 will be of low activity.

I also realized I partially parroted Rayn's reasons for stutter's posts looking bad. Apologies I'm a little drunk coz of my weekend feast and wrote pretty spontaneously. Going to bed now tho. See you sober.


Who gives a shit? Why are you so self-conscious?

Anyway, little break now. More in just a bit.


Ok now that 4 people have jumped on Stutters' scummy as shit post I don't feel as good about it.
Stutters get back here already.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 30 2013 04:29 GMT
#158
its not scummy as shit.
No gg, No skill.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
June 30 2013 04:30 GMT
#159
WoS, what do you think of Lazer?
ATOBTTR
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 30 2013 04:31 GMT
#160
K Oats.
Who is scummy as shit?

Also I just realized I wasted my 6k on something and now I'm an Archon
POWER OVERWHELMING
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