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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22420 Posts
June 29 2013 22:42 GMT
#101
On June 30 2013 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also if you are town, why would you not google translate WoS' posts?


Laziness, also quite confident in understanding some french without a translation.

Hence, didn't realize he wrote that.

I recall another guy writing something similar though. A guy I never played with. Why don't you call him out?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22420 Posts
June 29 2013 22:45 GMT
#102
Marv so silent.

Whassup marv.

That seems unusual.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 29 2013 22:51 GMT
#103
Some good points raised by Ray regarding stutters! Let's get this wagon rolling, shall we?

##Unvote
##Vote: Stutters695


Also, stutters, what country do you live in?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 29 2013 22:58 GMT
#104
To clarify; Stutters that "why would you not translate WoS' posts" was not directed to you but to everyone.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22420 Posts
June 29 2013 22:59 GMT
#105
Well ok. I reviewed things a little.

We have 2 guys saying their activity will be shit on D1 (marv and the new guy)

Then we have WoS say:
I'm not really going to be around until late tonight, so no

(as reply to "Hey you got anything to say?")

So yeah, kinda asshole answer. But also kinda careless. I'd treat it as null, and it's not really comparable to the announcement that the whole of D1 will be of low activity.

I also realized I partially parroted Rayn's reasons for stutter's posts looking bad. Apologies I'm a little drunk coz of my weekend feast and wrote pretty spontaneously. Going to bed now tho. See you sober.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 29 2013 23:02 GMT
#106
I can't seem to find the game where Marv fake claims miller, it makes me sad. Am I modconfirmed retard now?

Marv pls
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22420 Posts
June 29 2013 23:06 GMT
#107
On June 30 2013 08:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
I can't seem to find the game where Marv fake claims miller, it makes me sad. Am I modconfirmed retard now?

Marv pls


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=394344

It was IV not II -.-
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 29 2013 23:06 GMT
#108
On June 30 2013 07:38 Vivax wrote:
Addendum to the stutters thing: Looks like a loaded question scum likes to ask earlygame. I don't really see how one would suspect Rayn to be scum for having "extra info" about miller when scum doesn't get any extra info in that regard either. Doesn't seem like the approach a townie would take in that case even if he genuinely believed that.

Ecco un voto per esprimere la mia discordanza e il mio sospetto


##Vote stutters

do not post in blue.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 29 2013 23:18 GMT
#109
On June 30 2013 08:06 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 08:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
I can't seem to find the game where Marv fake claims miller, it makes me sad. Am I modconfirmed retard now?

Marv pls


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=394344

It was IV not II -.-
Thanks!

So the game was a C9++ setup meaning that miller is quite likely actually and 2 millers are very unlikely making it a quite YOLO move as scum because of the risk of getting soft counter claimed. In that way, its kinda similar to this game because of the very clear risk of counter claims.

I guess that means Marv does have the balls required to pull off such move as scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22420 Posts
June 29 2013 23:26 GMT
#110
On June 30 2013 08:18 Lazermonkey wrote:
I guess that means Marv does have the balls required to pull off such move as scum.


From that game:

On January 26 2013 09:30 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax, my balls are truly enormous.

To explain what I misread, I misread the "not" self-aware millers and I thought he was asking self-aware millers to claim after I'd claimed.

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 29 2013 23:33 GMT
#111
Of course he has. It does not change the fact that marv is a bright guy and fakeclaiming miller in this game is stupid.

I suggest we drop the miller claim analysis until/unless another millerclaim pops up. Start hunting scum instead.

Stutters, explain your thought process behind your "do you know something i don't" comment.

Vivax, why a sudden change of mind, that is really not a change of mind? What exactly is your stance on stutters/wos?

WoS, why do you not post something useful instead of this nonsense? Thoughts on stutters/vivax?
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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 29 2013 23:41 GMT
#112
On June 30 2013 08:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Of course he has. It does not change the fact that marv is a bright guy and fakeclaiming miller in this game is stupid.

I suggest we drop the miller claim analysis until/unless another millerclaim pops up. Start hunting scum instead.

Stutters, explain your thought process behind your "do you know something i don't" comment.

Vivax, why a sudden change of mind, that is really not a change of mind? What exactly is your stance on stutters/wos?

WoS, why do you not post something useful instead of this nonsense? Thoughts on stutters/vivax?
I disagree with your suggestion.

One could argue that Marv claiming in that other game is stupid also. He basically had a 40% chance (IIRC) to get soft counter claimed. However, when the RNG is on your side the play suddenly looks genius. The borderline between a stupid and a genius play can sometimes be very small.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22420 Posts
June 29 2013 23:52 GMT
#113
Vivax, why a sudden change of mind, that is really not a change of mind? What exactly is your stance on stutters/wos?


There is no change of mind. I just noticed afterwards that one of the reasons I mentioned for stutters being scummy was a reason you already had mentioned earlier.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 29 2013 23:59 GMT
#114
Come on Murricans... Don't be so shy!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 30 2013 00:26 GMT
#115
On June 30 2013 08:41 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 08:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Of course he has. It does not change the fact that marv is a bright guy and fakeclaiming miller in this game is stupid.

I suggest we drop the miller claim analysis until/unless another millerclaim pops up. Start hunting scum instead.

Stutters, explain your thought process behind your "do you know something i don't" comment.

Vivax, why a sudden change of mind, that is really not a change of mind? What exactly is your stance on stutters/wos?

WoS, why do you not post something useful instead of this nonsense? Thoughts on stutters/vivax?
I disagree with your suggestion.

One could argue that Marv claiming in that other game is stupid also. He basically had a 40% chance (IIRC) to get soft counter claimed. However, when the RNG is on your side the play suddenly looks genius. The borderline between a stupid and a genius play can sometimes be very small.

I don't want to argue about this, at least with you as i think you are town.

The bottom line is marv's claim does not make him scum. You think there might be a possibility that he is scum, i don't. Discussing it does not get us anywhere, as his claim definitely does not prove he is mafia.

So we move on to other things. Deal?
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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 30 2013 00:33 GMT
#116
But what do you want to talk about then?

While I agree talking about his claim isn't very productive untill more players have showed up, I'd rather talk about Marv than nothing.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 30 2013 00:41 GMT
#117
EBWOP: To expand on that, what is it that makes you think that marv is to bright to fake claim miller in this game despite having done so in another game. The claim was risky in that game, just as the hypothetical fake claim would be in this game. Still you say there cannot be a possibilty that Marv is scum in this game.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 30 2013 00:51 GMT
#118
The fact that there is a rolename for each possible miller. If you fakeclaim, you take a 50% chance of 1-1 trade as mafia, which is not good 5min into D1.

There is lot to talk about. Stutters and WoS are scummy. Do you agree? We talk about marv more when he posts more.
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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 30 2013 01:10 GMT
#119
On June 30 2013 09:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The fact that there is a rolename for each possible miller. If you fakeclaim, you take a 50% chance of 1-1 trade as mafia, which is not good 5min into D1.
First off, Marv did not claim his role name. Secondly, yes, of course there is a risk involved with claiming fake claiming miller and even if you don't claim the same same as someone else, there is a very high chance for it to be a scum among the two players claiming. But that is beside the point. Marv was willing to take a risk in the other game. Why is it completely and utterly impossible from your point of you for him to be scum in this game? Because the only real argument you've made this far is that it is risky.
On June 30 2013 09:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:There is lot to talk about. Stutters and WoS are scummy. Do you agree? We talk about marv more when he posts more.
Like I already said, I think your points against stutters are good. The fact that he is very fast to doubt Marv's claim yet does not take a clear stance, the fact that he said that his french is rusty instead of just translating the sentence and the fact that he asks why his own posts are bad and then goes on to afk is rubbing me in a bad way.

WoS isn't contributing in anyway, which is bad. His posting is careless though and its bad no matter what alignment he is basically. Mildly suspicious.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 30 2013 01:17 GMT
#120
It doesn't make sense and marv is good as scum. Srsly, if you think he/me is scum tell us why, if you do not, question elsewhere.
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