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On July 03 2013 09:23 marvellosity wrote:
What have I done that's 'crazy', gumshoe? How is my behavioural analysis of Vayne WIFOM? It was a meta read, don't call it wifom when it isn't. Just because it was wrong doesn't make it crazy or wifom.
This town has gone to hell largely because of my efforts? The fact that town sheeped me when I asked is indicative of a shit town who didn't have any of their shit together and sheeped someone who came back an hour before the lynch. Bullshit all you like but every townie's vote is their own.
Fuck you man, go to hell.
Theres a fine line between WIFOM and META and I think that line is right or wrong. You used something that wound up being false to make a lynch happen that otherwise shouldnt have happened. You need to be held accountable for that at least.
Also
Fuck you man, go to hell
ouch man 0_0 ouch. Not cool at all ) : its an opinion in a game, I havent even lynched/shot you or your mafia buds yet XD
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bleh sniped.
Miller and no cop games have been played before.
Lazer, did you get RB?
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Uh.....I claimed and fucked off?
Really? There were like 15 minutes between my claim and your post accusing me. Pretty quick to jump on me it seems.
Vivax you didn't respond, were you informed that you were shot or did you assume as such from the Daypost?
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On July 03 2013 09:30 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 09:28 marvellosity wrote:
Who cares if they did? How is it relevant? because then it doesnt matter as much if the fakeclaimer died because they wont lose KP anyway. This is a MAIN POINT in your defence that its too risky and not enough benefit for scum to claim. WoS, who is most likely for being scum out of the blue claimers? BECAUSE Im thinking its you for just claiming and fucking off without even mentioning ANYBODY.
..... why even risk the fakeclaimer dying and just not fakeclaim???
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On July 03 2013 09:28 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 09:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 09:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ladies and gents we have a problem here.
There are some fakeclaimers amongst the blues as I am Donny Donowitz.
I'm assuming since the shot I took at marv didn't go through I was roleblocked.
Vivax were you notified of your hit? Who do you think is lying? I have no clue now to be honest. How do you not autovote lazer? If you were roleblocked then you're saying that you think mafia not only left the cop alive but didn't roleblock him as well? Shouldnt he should be confirmed scum to you?
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because confirmed townie status is good.
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Why did you do it in Normal Mini then?
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On July 03 2013 09:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Vivax were you notified of your hit?
Um how does Vivax know if he gets hit if he's not notified?
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On July 03 2013 09:32 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 09:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 03 2013 09:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 09:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ladies and gents we have a problem here.
There are some fakeclaimers amongst the blues as I am Donny Donowitz.
I'm assuming since the shot I took at marv didn't go through I was roleblocked.
Vivax were you notified of your hit? Who do you think is lying? I have no clue now to be honest. How do you not autovote lazer? If you were roleblocked then you're saying that you think mafia not only left the cop alive but didn't roleblock him as well? Shouldnt he should be confirmed scum to you?
First of all, I did vote him.
Second of all, mafia have no need to RB Lazer tonight if he is town, it takes him two nights to return a check. They can RB or kill him tomorrow and RB elsewhere to see what they can do, as it seems they may have done.
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On July 03 2013 09:28 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 09:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 09:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ladies and gents we have a problem here.
There are some fakeclaimers amongst the blues as I am Donny Donowitz.
I'm assuming since the shot I took at marv didn't go through I was roleblocked.
Vivax were you notified of your hit? Who do you think is lying? I have no clue now to be honest. I was worried when the possibility of fakeclaims were brought up that this would be a possibility. I have no fucking clue why I was roleblocked though. I'm still thinking strictly role-wise it would make the most sense to have a cop in this game so certainly one of the protection/KP roles has to be a fake. Since I know mine is legit that leaves Vivax/gumshoe. Are 2 or 3 blues more likely in this setup because I would think then if only 2 blues are really present maybe Lazer DID fakeclaim along with one of the others. Gameplay-wise if I had to pick one of the blueclaims to lynch Lazer has had by far the scummiest play out of the three of them so I'd lynch him first. I'm not sure which of Vivax/gumshoe are lying if only 2 blues are present. In fact, ##Vote: Lazermonkey
did you edit that vote in? I could have sworn it wasn't there originally
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On July 03 2013 09:30 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 09:23 marvellosity wrote:
What have I done that's 'crazy', gumshoe? How is my behavioural analysis of Vayne WIFOM? It was a meta read, don't call it wifom when it isn't. Just because it was wrong doesn't make it crazy or wifom.
This town has gone to hell largely because of my efforts? The fact that town sheeped me when I asked is indicative of a shit town who didn't have any of their shit together and sheeped someone who came back an hour before the lynch. Bullshit all you like but every townie's vote is their own.
Fuck you man, go to hell. Theres a fine line between WIFOM and META and I think that line is right or wrong. You used something that wound up being false to make a lynch happen that otherwise shouldnt have happened. You need to be held accountable for that at least. Also ouch man 0_0 ouch. Not cool at all ) : its an opinion in a game, I havent even lynched/shot you or your mafia buds yet XD
There's not a fine line between wifom and meta. Stop just saying shit as if it's true. It was a legitimate summary of his past play and comparing it to this game, someone being involved or not isn't wifom.
You're blaming me for a lynch as if no townie has ever lynched another townie or something? Again, hello, I have one vote only, I just pushed for what I thought was right. Where were you trying to care about the lynch? Oh, not there, I remember.
Keep your own house in order before throwing stones.
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On July 03 2013 09:34 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 09:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 03 2013 09:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 09:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ladies and gents we have a problem here.
There are some fakeclaimers amongst the blues as I am Donny Donowitz.
I'm assuming since the shot I took at marv didn't go through I was roleblocked.
Vivax were you notified of your hit? Who do you think is lying? I have no clue now to be honest. I was worried when the possibility of fakeclaims were brought up that this would be a possibility. I have no fucking clue why I was roleblocked though. I'm still thinking strictly role-wise it would make the most sense to have a cop in this game so certainly one of the protection/KP roles has to be a fake. Since I know mine is legit that leaves Vivax/gumshoe. Are 2 or 3 blues more likely in this setup because I would think then if only 2 blues are really present maybe Lazer DID fakeclaim along with one of the others. Gameplay-wise if I had to pick one of the blueclaims to lynch Lazer has had by far the scummiest play out of the three of them so I'd lynch him first. I'm not sure which of Vivax/gumshoe are lying if only 2 blues are present. In fact, ##Vote: Lazermonkey did you edit that vote in? I could have sworn it wasn't there originally
Do you see an edit stamp?
Derp.
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On July 03 2013 09:35 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 09:34 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 09:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 03 2013 09:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 09:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ladies and gents we have a problem here.
There are some fakeclaimers amongst the blues as I am Donny Donowitz.
I'm assuming since the shot I took at marv didn't go through I was roleblocked.
Vivax were you notified of your hit? Who do you think is lying? I have no clue now to be honest. I was worried when the possibility of fakeclaims were brought up that this would be a possibility. I have no fucking clue why I was roleblocked though. I'm still thinking strictly role-wise it would make the most sense to have a cop in this game so certainly one of the protection/KP roles has to be a fake. Since I know mine is legit that leaves Vivax/gumshoe. Are 2 or 3 blues more likely in this setup because I would think then if only 2 blues are really present maybe Lazer DID fakeclaim along with one of the others. Gameplay-wise if I had to pick one of the blueclaims to lynch Lazer has had by far the scummiest play out of the three of them so I'd lynch him first. I'm not sure which of Vivax/gumshoe are lying if only 2 blues are present. In fact, ##Vote: Lazermonkey did you edit that vote in? I could have sworn it wasn't there originally Do you see an edit stamp? Derp.
Strange I totally missed it. Also I didn't realize parity cop worked like that. I thought you just submit 2 names each night and get same/different.
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On July 03 2013 09:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
because confirmed townie status is good.
are you on drugs or something? how is that a good risk/reward? how is it even TRUE given we're having this stupid conversation?
I already explained fully why I did it in NMMIV, and the probabilities in this case are wildly different (which I'd know if I was scum and thought about it)
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On July 03 2013 09:37 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 09:35 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 03 2013 09:34 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 09:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 03 2013 09:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 09:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ladies and gents we have a problem here.
There are some fakeclaimers amongst the blues as I am Donny Donowitz.
I'm assuming since the shot I took at marv didn't go through I was roleblocked.
Vivax were you notified of your hit? Who do you think is lying? I have no clue now to be honest. I was worried when the possibility of fakeclaims were brought up that this would be a possibility. I have no fucking clue why I was roleblocked though. I'm still thinking strictly role-wise it would make the most sense to have a cop in this game so certainly one of the protection/KP roles has to be a fake. Since I know mine is legit that leaves Vivax/gumshoe. Are 2 or 3 blues more likely in this setup because I would think then if only 2 blues are really present maybe Lazer DID fakeclaim along with one of the others. Gameplay-wise if I had to pick one of the blueclaims to lynch Lazer has had by far the scummiest play out of the three of them so I'd lynch him first. I'm not sure which of Vivax/gumshoe are lying if only 2 blues are present. In fact, ##Vote: Lazermonkey did you edit that vote in? I could have sworn it wasn't there originally Do you see an edit stamp? Derp. Strange I totally missed it. Also I didn't realize parity cop worked like that. I thought you just submit 2 names each night and get same/different.
Rayn mentioned this himself earlier in the day. Have you been reading at all?
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So here's another problem which nobody has been addressing either. Clearly some other people (non-blueclaim) are lying about their claims as well so they are no longer trustworthy based on tonight's massclaim.
Why has nobody mentioned this?
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On July 03 2013 08:47 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 08:44 gumshoe wrote:On July 03 2013 08:40 Vivax wrote:
not necesarily my order of scumminess (though close) but this is the order I think people should claim. Use it if I die:
Put marv before gumshoe. The guy isn't pushing any reads. Only defending himself, talking about how his claim would be too risky, and hating. He said himself he fakeclaimed miller in another game. He says the claim isn't risky although he can still outplay the other miller if it comes to it. Look at how he pushes the wagons D1. He was pretty much throwing shit everywhere (WoS, Vayne, fuba) except on Lazer and see what sticks. He said Lazer looked like he was trying, but ignored Rayn saying that Lazer didn't push his scumread Vayne all day long. He just finished reading the thread and showed zero doubt. Even cockiness has a limit. A new day has begun, Rayne is dead and that, as somber a verdict, is a new beginning for thought. Expect cases soon. Also I've claimed revenge townie. Why not keep me around in case of a lylo situation? If it gets to that point you can shoot me to be sure and guarantee a win. Until then they're are always other scum. Do you have any specific questions or reads you want from me? How do you feel about my blue claim? I'd rather stop talking about all these claims and judge people by their play. How do you feel about lynching marv?
Can you explain this please?
You said this before I showed up to show the thread that scum clearly have fakeclaims. Did you know this was about to happen, good sir?
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On July 03 2013 09:37 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 09:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
because confirmed townie status is good. are you on drugs or something? how is that a good risk/reward? how is it even TRUE given we're having this stupid conversation? I already explained fully why I did it in NMMIV, and the probabilities in this case are wildly different (which I'd know if I was scum and thought about it)
Stop talking to me about this, find scum.
Probabilities in this case are either slightly worse rather than the same.
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On July 03 2013 09:30 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 09:28 marvellosity wrote:
Who cares if they did? How is it relevant? because then it doesnt matter as much if the fakeclaimer died because they wont lose KP anyway. This is a MAIN POINT in your defence that its too risky and not enough benefit for scum to claim. WoS, who is most likely for being scum out of the blue claimers? BECAUSE Im thinking its you for just claiming and fucking off without even mentioning ANYBODY.
Wos has now claimed second to last with no green townie spots remaining, he likely waited to see what was left and took the final blue spot thinking hed have a better chance fighting two to three blues then he would a single townie or convincing town hes survivor. Furthermore we pretty much KNOW for a fact Vivax is blue because a) A kp was blocked. b) the only other way a kp could be blocked is by survivor, and no one has claimed survivor. C) Vivak's claim was too quick to just be opportunistic and has not been counter claimed.
Considering all these factors I can only conceive of two believable possibilities, a) Scum witheld kp so that Vivak could claim vet(would be so godamm awesome) b) Vivak is telling the truth.
Vivak is 99.99999 percent vet. Which leaves me Lazer and WOS whose claim I didn't believe even before he made it. Also why block or hold WOS? What has he done to make himself look blue? Wos is asking us to believe two incredibly farfetched things. 1) He just happened to be last claim. 2) He was role blocked? meh and meh. Also why was Lazer not shot if he is detective? Was scum content role blocking him?
I've already gone into why I think they'res little harm in keeping me around. At the moment I find WOS to be so scummy he actually eclipses Marv.
Oh and good god Jar Jar are we agreeing on something? Perhaps you reavaluate your read immediately.
##Vote WOS
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EBWOP meant Oats not Jar Jar XD same applies I guess?
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