Basterd Mini Mafia - Page 54

On July 03 2013 05:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
I notice fuba hasn't responded to my question.
Lazer would you like to comment on the conversation currently happening between Rayn and I?

On July 03 2013 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So your suggestion is that marv decided to look into vayne 30 min before the assumed deadline instead of looking into town's suspects because you did think he is scummy but didn't even make a case (which i btw confronted you at that time if you remember). Seems legit-

On July 03 2013 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Lazer, i don't know why you need to be so defencive about marv?
Talk with WoS instead, i am interested in seeing what you guys talk about. He asked you a question already.

On July 03 2013 05:36 Lazermonkey wrote:
No, Im suggesting marv looked into Vayne 90 minutes before the suggested deadline instead of town's suspects. Whether he did that because of my posts or not, I don't know. I don't get why me not having a case against Vayne at the point is relevant? Alot of people get lynched without having a case on them. Or how are you defining a cse?

On July 03 2013 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS what do you think of Lazer's hard-defence on marv and him rejection to interact with you?

On July 03 2013 05:43 WaveofShadow wrote:

I think it's scummy as fuck but I've had problems with this kind of play before. Vayne's play in I Swear for example, in which he played like shit and really scummy but he claimed cop real early and we were forced to believe him.
Turns out he really was the cop.

To me it seems more likely that Lazer's claim is real. Hell, if you're negating the possibility of fakeclaims why wouldn't you agree with me? If anything a fakeclaim makes the idea that Lazer's claim is fake MORE likely!

On July 03 2013 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am not negating the the possibility of fakeclaim in this particular situation. I am not sure Lazer is scum and that's why i wanted to question him as much as possible. His answers and his defence on marv make no sense, because whether or not he is real cop marv's post about doubting his claim makes zero sense from town PoV. He should be the one most suspicious of marv because he thinks from a cop-PoV.

Keep in mind that if marv is not hiding in scum QT atm, he is away, and scum need to defend him in case of vigi shot.

On July 03 2013 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vayne is different player than Lazer and i remember Vivax (or someone) saying Lazer's scumplay is good.

On July 03 2013 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuba why is WoS not mafia?

On July 03 2013 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dunno about Fuba, he might be scum. You guys can figure out that later after you've lynched marv. ^^

Is Lazer's townplay bad? I have never played with him.

On July 03 2013 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
You know marv, for someone who claimed miller so early with no name you certainly do resist this a whole lot.

On July 03 2013 02:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm trying to say that unless scum were given fakeclaims (he 'assumes' as such, though probably a fair assumption since otherwse iGrok would basically be allowing his game to be broken) he could be resisting this for the obvious reason that when he claimed he didn't realize we would be allowed to do this, and now is worried about being caught as scum.

I consider all possibilities and yes it's possible he's miller and he just happened not to bother claiming the name at that point (or at any point after that) but then again, why the weak resisting?

Either way D2 is going to be very interesting. I won't be around from a little before deadline to a few hours after at which point I'll be pretty active (assuming da guy goes to sleep) so if you guys want to wait and claim then, great. Otherwise you're going to have to wait for mine.

On July 03 2013 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
if marv is miller he has zero reason to not believe un-cc'd cop claim. therefore marv is fakeclaiming, there is no millers, there is no cop, and Lazer got an easy fakeclaim aswell. They only have to survive to N2 to win with 2KP, unless third scum is lynched.

On July 03 2013 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
as i do not think there are 3 blues, and gumshoe can't know if there is another one.
Lazer could be town due to his claim but that does not change the fact that marv should not doubt his claim.

On July 03 2013 02:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
I said at the start of the game I would not have claimed miller just because someone asked me to. There could very well still be a miller. It is also possible that marv really IS miller but I don't believe that to be as likely as him being scum based on the way he has acted since returning.
I reacted the same way when DP claimed it in CC and was grilled for it, but I believed his claim because of how he acted regarding it. Marv has not acted in this same way and been as absolutely transparent about his claim as he could have been (which imo should be expected if you claim miller and expect not to be lynched). It seems to me that marv expects to skate by on his claim because he's marv, and he's been successful so far.

We'll definitely see what D2 brings regarding all of this though.

By the way Rayn according to your above explanation why can't either of their claims be real? Especially Lazer's imo?

On July 03 2013 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah i just said Lazer might be town. BUT IF MARV IS MILLER HE HAS ZERO REASON TO DOUBT UN-CC'D COP!
marv is not a miller and not town.

If any miller is yet to claim they are retarded.

On July 03 2013 02:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I agree w/ rayns assesment and also agree that vig should shoot into lazr/marv tonight

On July 03 2013 05:53 mkfuba07 wrote:

He seemed to have the same reaction as we did to marv's claim. Though he disagrees that marv's practically guaranteed scum, he does agree that it's likely. What made you think that I was leaning town on him? I didn't think I'd actually mentioned it.