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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 01 2013 20:48 GMT
#661
I think vayne is an extremely good lynch, i think wos is a decent backup lynch.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 01 2013 20:50 GMT
#662
On July 02 2013 05:48 marvellosity wrote:
I think vayne is an extremely good lynch, i think wos is a decent backup lynch.
Whats your take on fuba, doesn't comment on anything at all about the current lynch but just arguing about shit with stutters (who isn't a realistic lynch today) and defendinghimself.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 01 2013 20:50 GMT
#663
Hey guys, running a bit late from work, lynch will end at proper time, I'll tally the votes by 5:30. Please don't talk after voting has ended. Thanks!
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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 01 2013 20:50 GMT
#664
I'll check out Vayne Marv, care to point out what you see though?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 01 2013 20:50 GMT
#665
We really need to know if we have an hour or not, iGrok?
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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
July 01 2013 20:50 GMT
#666
On July 02 2013 05:47 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 05:45 s0Lstice wrote:
While I'm catching up..I see Marv is back.

Marv, do me a favor and read through Stutters quick and tell me what you think.
Ignore stutters please. This lynch is between me/fuba/WoS/Vayne.


That's easier said than done. I got an immediate town feeling from him in Roulette (before I had to replace out) and it's just not happening here...plus the stuff I've written on him already.

We got time, and it seems like there are plenty of people here. How is Stutters not an option?
ATOBTTR
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 01 2013 20:51 GMT
#667
On July 02 2013 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
can we agree collectively as a game to not claim roles in this open setup? It's pretty broken and I didn't sign up for a lets all claim and lynch at 50/50 game.

With that said I am mainly looking at lazer/WoS now.

Lazer's posting has been fairly more townie as of recently but the fact that he OMGUS'd me from my accusations is a bit alarming when he gave very little reasoning. It seems like he's trying to keep himself on the good side of most of the people in the game so instead of scum hunting he just goes right back at the accuser.

As for WoS I am not really a fan of what he's done so far, he has been very passive yet exceedingly angry which is somewhat how he played in Les Mis. The fact that he says I am playing differently and doesn't know what to make of it leads me to believe that he knows I am town somehow, might have been a scumslip.


This entire post could literally not be any more indecisive.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 01 2013 20:51 GMT
#668
so we have 10min, who do we lynch? Marv are you sure vayne is scum?
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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 01 2013 20:51 GMT
#669
On July 02 2013 05:50 Stutters695 wrote:
I'll check out Vayne Marv, care to point out what you see though?
His filter is like 1 centimeter long. Just read it.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 01 2013 20:51 GMT
#670
On July 02 2013 05:45 marvellosity wrote:
gumshoe's posting is too dense for me to have a proper opinion on it with the time I have remaining.

Here's more of my case against gumshoe (in addition to the mass claim stuff):
On July 01 2013 12:13 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 12:00 s0Lstice wrote:
I want to know who is scum outside of me, JarJar, and why.
Glad u asked .


pretty sure gumshoe is scum

All gumshoe has done is look for miniscule things that he can label piggybacker/flip-flopper/etc...

And he's calling people out a bunch because of activity issues just because they leave the thread for a bit. Look @ all of these posts:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 13:04 gumshoe wrote:
My issue is he takes off after pressure turns on him, he stops contributing in hopes of saving himself, that strikes me as a noob scum messing up and trying to wait out the pressure.
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 04:34 gumshoe wrote:
Thats because the pressure put on Stutters wasn't necessarily meant to secure a vote on him, it was there to push Stutters to react and force sides. Instead Stutters backed off until the heat blew over, I dont believe for a second that he just happened to leave for half a day right after people started putting pressure on him,this is what I find inherently scummy about his play. The town move would be to stay in chat, confront accusations and attempt to contribute and redirect town discussion, which Rayne has done (albiet somewhat unsuccessfully considering everyone and they're mom wont let the miller thing drop for an hour even).
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 05:02 gumshoe wrote:
I also am not dropping the case on you not because your generaly inactive, but because of a certain period in which you were inactive, a stretch of time wherein we could of used you to clarify things, contribute and clear your name, instead you vanished at a critical moment and that felt to me like you were trying to regroup with scum and wait things out. Which worked, nobodies really mad at you anymore, so of course your here now eager to help.
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On July 01 2013 06:13 gumshoe wrote:
Lastly, isn't it funny how Jar Jar's been gone all day then jumps in once the heat builds? Hes either actively not contributing or someone gave him a heads up .
I mean, look @ this last post. How are those the only options? How about "He's doing something unrelated to the game on a Sunday Afternoon"? He's trying to cast suspicion based on stuff that are outside the realm of the game. Like what does he mean by someone gave me a heads up once the heat built up? Is he implying that I wasn't following the game thread but I was following the scum thread and someone there told me I need to go post?

Also look @ that 2nd post where he says "the pressure put on Stutters wasn't necessarily meant to secure a vote on him, it was there to push Stutters to react and force sides.". But that wasn't really what he said when he was supecting stutters earlier
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 12:37 gumshoe wrote:
On June 30 2013 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
He instantly buddied marv after his miller claim which doesnt 100% confirm marv as town.

Its was like
'Miller claim please'
'im miller'
'k lets win game together marv'

Does anyone else not see that something is wrong?


Pretty much my reasoning a little whole ago XD but actively looking for miller as a bud isn't scummy, its neutral, I would rather see what stutters pops, because he's less of an asset. If he flips red I cant see Ryan being scum, if we blindly lynch Rayne and he's town that'll just suck. Basically I rather risk stutters before Ryane XD. And yes this game is about hunting scum, not doing risk assessment but Rayne looks suspicious because he's in to good a manufactured position and stutters looks suspicious because he's made a mistake. I find the latter usually more damming so I swing more scum on him at the moment and it doesn't hurt that were risking less.

It only became about pressuring stutters after the fact because gumshoe was pushing his "Stutters left the thread because he was scum and couldn't handle the pressure" agenda.


And lastly, since I know I'm town (I know that no one else can know this but I'm giving my own reasons) and there are 3 people voting me. Odds are that 1 of em is scum since I'd imagine they'd want to spread their vote around.

vote: gumshoe


On July 01 2013 23:16 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Someone comment on this exchange:

Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:17 gumshoe wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:02 JarJarDrinks wrote:
OK. Rayne's kinda convinced me that he's town over the last few pages. I think he's legit pissed @ oats. I'd prefer not lynching rayn (though if I have to vote him to save myself I obviously will).

I laid out my case against Solstice already. He'd be my preferred lynch today.


Wow, flip flop much? Also a willingness to vote for someone you think is good to save yourself... is towny how?
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:17 gumshoe wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:02 JarJarDrinks wrote:
OK. Rayne's kinda convinced me that he's town over the last few pages. I think he's legit pissed @ oats. I'd prefer not lynching rayn (though if I have to vote him to save myself I obviously will).

I laid out my case against Solstice already. He'd be my preferred lynch today.


Wow, flip flop much? Also a willingness to vote for someone you think is good to save yourself... is towny how?
Is this a serious question? Because I know for a fact that I am town. If I get lynched, the town is definately 100% losing a townie.
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On July 01 2013 11:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I mean, I don't even understand how you can ask that? Are you saying that you'd be willing to stick your head in a noose if it would save someone that you have a town read on?
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:32 gumshoe wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I mean, I don't even understand how you can ask that? Are you saying that you'd be willing to stick your head in a noose if it would save someone that you have a town read on?


My point is you dont sound like your in it to find scum or help town at this point, your just trying to not piss people off and survive the day. And honestly do you think I can treat the old "I'm town so towns gonna get hurt when I die" with any value whatsoever?
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:51 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:32 gumshoe wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I mean, I don't even understand how you can ask that? Are you saying that you'd be willing to stick your head in a noose if it would save someone that you have a town read on?


My point is you dont sound like your in it to find scum or help town at this point, your just trying to not piss people off and survive the day.
No, that wasn't your point. You asked me how it was townish to be willing to vote someone that I had a townread on to save myself. You were not saying or even implying anything about me not pissing people off. You jumped on a statement I made and tried to call it scummy which it wasn't @ all. Which you are straight up admitting by not answering my question.


And honestly do you think I can treat the old "I'm town so towns gonna get hurt when I die" with any value whatsoever?
And then here you try to twist it around like I'm trying to use it to make myself seem more town when YOU'RE the one who asked the question.

How is this not scummy as hell? He jumps on me for saying something. He then basically admits that he'd do the exact same thing in my situation and tries to turn the whole exchange around.


Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 01 2013 20:51 GMT
#671
On July 02 2013 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so we have 10min, who do we lynch? Marv are you sure vayne is scum?
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
July 01 2013 20:52 GMT
#672
Ahhh fuck I'm so troubled.

Some part of me wants to lynch Lazer for not pushing his reads.
The other wants to trust marv and lynch Vayne, but I liked his explanations, not his activity.
Another part wants to lynch fuba for his odd contradiction.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 01 2013 20:52 GMT
#673
and why would you not lynch fuba?
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
July 01 2013 20:52 GMT
#674
On July 02 2013 05:41 Lazermonkey wrote:
Okay fuba is being totaly super useless atm. He is here but chooses not to care about this lynch at all and instead goes on with a stupid fucking argument with stutters.

I can kill this guy.

rofl, it's because I think stutters is scum. My problem with the lynch is that I want to lynch rayn, which apparently isn't going to happen today, or stutters, who I'm surprised so many people have a town read on. It's not a "stupid fucking argument". Of course, if you didn't play in Roulette then you might not understand what I'm talking about, but there are contradictions between how he played then and how he's playing now that point towards him being scum. Unfortunately, as those contradictions center around his responses to me, others apparently don't find that compelling.

So, I'm trying to look at the possible lynches, and figuring out who is most likely to flip scum. Problem is, most of the people we're discussing now are people I haven't taken a hard look at. So let me dive...
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 01 2013 20:53 GMT
#675
On July 02 2013 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so we have 10min, who do we lynch? Marv are you sure vayne is scum?


no, and my viewpoint is more uninformed than usual, in that I'm basically discounting people (fuba, gumshoe being two good examples) because I haven't got time to think about it properly.

I can't see why Vayne is town though. His last 4 or 5 posts in his filter are all saying he;s happy lynching into numerous people or giving reasoning without conclusions.

That's where I stand right now.

Who's leading the lynch? Why are they a better lynch?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 01 2013 20:53 GMT
#676
OP says:
48/24 Time cycle, deadline 00:00 CAT (+02:00), which is 8min from now..
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
July 01 2013 20:53 GMT
#677
I think it's still best to lynch the guy who doesn't give enough importance to the reads he claims to have.
I'm staying on Laz0r
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 01 2013 20:54 GMT
#678
On July 02 2013 05:52 mkfuba07 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 05:41 Lazermonkey wrote:
Okay fuba is being totaly super useless atm. He is here but chooses not to care about this lynch at all and instead goes on with a stupid fucking argument with stutters.

I can kill this guy.

rofl, it's because I think stutters is scum. My problem with the lynch is that I want to lynch rayn, which apparently isn't going to happen today, or stutters, who I'm surprised so many people have a town read on. It's not a "stupid fucking argument". Of course, if you didn't play in Roulette then you might not understand what I'm talking about, but there are contradictions between how he played then and how he's playing now that point towards him being scum. Unfortunately, as those contradictions center around his responses to me, others apparently don't find that compelling.

So, I'm trying to look at the possible lynches, and figuring out who is most likely to flip scum. Problem is, most of the people we're discussing now are people I haven't taken a hard look at. So let me dive...
GG scum. GG.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 01 2013 20:54 GMT
#679
On July 02 2013 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
OP says:
48/24 Time cycle, deadline 00:00 CAT (+02:00), which is 8min from now..
Yhea, but igrok just said...
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 01 2013 20:54 GMT
#680
JJD I'll look at gumshoe tomorrow because his first post worried me as well (he was talking about contingencies and risk assessments, which not so bad in itself, but the timing really early in the day seemed pretty off). I don't think he's gonna get lynched today though. At least I can't vote for him in good faith.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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