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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 04 2013 23:54 GMT
#2001
Seems reasonably likely to me scum got their fakeclaims at the start to be honest.

"But marv!" I hear you say. "You have no basis for saying that! Why scum and not survivor?"

Well I have first-hand experience as a host with mucking up giving claims slightly. Newbie XXX I think. In any case, I gave scum the VT role PM at the start, but forgot to give it to the blues until halfway through Day 1 (sound familiar? xD). Precedent for scum getting things in a timely manner and other people not :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 04 2013 23:58 GMT
#2002
On July 05 2013 08:54 marvellosity wrote:
Seems reasonably likely to me scum got their fakeclaims at the start to be honest.

"But marv!" I hear you say. "You have no basis for saying that! Why scum and not survivor?"

Well I have first-hand experience as a host with mucking up giving claims slightly. Newbie XXX I think. In any case, I gave scum the VT role PM at the start, but forgot to give it to the blues until halfway through Day 1 (sound familiar? xD). Precedent for scum getting things in a timely manner and other people not :p


Fine then, that still doesn't change Jar Jar's situation. Judge him based on his actions, not the claim, sadly I'm not gonna be the one to make the case. Scum will just scream confirmation bias and Wifom from the hills. I'll pick someone else(more than one scum after all) and present my findings before night ends. Though I doubt scum will waste role block and shot on me.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 04 2013 23:59 GMT
#2003
iGrok should be counted as a player in this game for the amount he gets referenced.
##Vote: iGrok
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 05 2013 00:06 GMT
#2004
On July 05 2013 08:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
iGrok should be counted as a player in this game for the amount he gets referenced.
##Vote: iGrok

I thought you were trying not to get mod killed. Also it's night time dummy, we can't vote yet : P
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 00:08 GMT
#2005
On July 05 2013 08:58 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 08:54 marvellosity wrote:
Seems reasonably likely to me scum got their fakeclaims at the start to be honest.

"But marv!" I hear you say. "You have no basis for saying that! Why scum and not survivor?"

Well I have first-hand experience as a host with mucking up giving claims slightly. Newbie XXX I think. In any case, I gave scum the VT role PM at the start, but forgot to give it to the blues until halfway through Day 1 (sound familiar? xD). Precedent for scum getting things in a timely manner and other people not :p


Fine then, that still doesn't change Jar Jar's situation. Judge him based on his actions, not the claim, sadly I'm not gonna be the one to make the case. Scum will just scream confirmation bias and Wifom from the hills. I'll pick someone else(more than one scum after all) and present my findings before night ends. Though I doubt scum will waste role block and shot on me.


This is the silliest thing you've written so far this game, gumshoe. There's currently 2 scum and 7 not-scum, for starters. If you have a good case to make, then make it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 05 2013 00:20 GMT
#2006
On July 05 2013 08:51 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 08:49 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On July 05 2013 08:45 gumshoe wrote:
Also WOS is probably lying to cover his own ass, the dude doesn't want to help us. Above all take away the fake claims, just judge Jar Jar on his own merit. Do not rely on a flip flopping scum teasing survivor.
Sounds like a good plan. So when you took your vote off of me originally, I assume it's because you believed my claim. So why don't you believe it now? Did something change your mind?


................I took my vote off you because you claimed before we knew they're were fake claims in the game........................
how do you know there are fake claims in the game now?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 00:22 GMT
#2007
Seems pretty damn likely it's how I described it earlier, given what fuba claimed.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 00:24 GMT
#2008
oh, unless you're going for the argument that WoS is scum and lying about that stuff, right?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 05 2013 00:27 GMT
#2009
On July 05 2013 09:08 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 08:58 gumshoe wrote:
On July 05 2013 08:54 marvellosity wrote:
Seems reasonably likely to me scum got their fakeclaims at the start to be honest.

"But marv!" I hear you say. "You have no basis for saying that! Why scum and not survivor?"

Well I have first-hand experience as a host with mucking up giving claims slightly. Newbie XXX I think. In any case, I gave scum the VT role PM at the start, but forgot to give it to the blues until halfway through Day 1 (sound familiar? xD). Precedent for scum getting things in a timely manner and other people not :p


Fine then, that still doesn't change Jar Jar's situation. Judge him based on his actions, not the claim, sadly I'm not gonna be the one to make the case. Scum will just scream confirmation bias and Wifom from the hills. I'll pick someone else(more than one scum after all) and present my findings before night ends. Though I doubt scum will waste role block and shot on me.


This is the silliest thing you've written so far this game, gumshoe. There's currently 2 scum and 7 not-scum, for starters. If you have a good case to make, then make it.

Still not as silly as half the things vixax has said : P besides, I'm confident I can find the other scum player and If one ignores the claim, it's extraordinarily easy for any town player to make a case against Jar Jar,you don't need me for that. You have my vote against him if you want it, aside from that I say his claim argument is utter bullshit, look strictly at his posting his accusations and his motives and you'll pretty much just see what I see, a scum version of Oats.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
July 05 2013 00:32 GMT
#2010
I'm going off for awhile, later all, gl.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 00:32 GMT
#2011
Can you not make the narrative from town-Jarjar as well? If not, what is it in particular that makes you think that isn't possible?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 05 2013 00:47 GMT
#2012
Oh hay Vivax, you nevar answered my question!
On July 04 2013 13:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh and a random question for Vivax whenever he gets back, if he happens to read this.
How do you know that scum don't have Hitler, hmmm?

Also this:
On July 05 2013 08:00 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 07:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 07:32 Vivax wrote:
Well gj.

It will be funny after this night when cop doesn't get roleblocked or killed though (according to my theory), with my theory, all he can effectively do is confirm townies with his role, or Landa.

And marv the supertownie millerclaimer will stay alive too.
And what WoS is going to do : He needs to guarantee us that he won't roleblock the cop.

I wish you much fun making plans in your hidden pits, scum. This night might give you trouble.

Rayn might have hit 3 /3 before dying.

See here's the thing. I feel like I should somehow be giving scum a sporting chance since they just took such a hit. (Even though it was entirely their own fault.) But my problem is I don't know how scum wants me to help them!

So I guess I can't really do anything unless they let me know what to do somehow.

You know for a guy who was ranting and raving about how I was scum Vivax, I'm surprised you'd be willing to trust me even if I DID guarantee you something.


I'll trust you if you roleblock someone tonight.

The only sporting chance you can give scum is to roleblock the DT.
Scum Lazer can claim RB "Sorry bro no check". If he's town then you did scum a favour.

We should ask him what he thinks of it hehehe...

The thing is, whatever you do, you will have to conceal your real intentions.
Let's assume for a moment you will jail me and stop the next attempted shot from scum.

Scum will shoot you if they know you do that.

Needless to say that if you help scum and not town, you'll be on the lynching list tomorrow.

Scum can't do this themselves why exactly?

What geevs?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 05 2013 02:11 GMT
#2013
Im going to look at the people who were on Rayn with me.
Currently with Vivax im taking it as too dumb to be scum, like personality 2, also his recent scumgames were nowhere near this dumb.

JJD, im nullish to scum. His claim was odd but I think his attack on WoS is too bullheaded to be scum.
who else thought rayn was scum at some point?
No gg, No skill.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 05 2013 03:35 GMT
#2014
On July 05 2013 09:20 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 08:51 gumshoe wrote:
On July 05 2013 08:49 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On July 05 2013 08:45 gumshoe wrote:
Also WOS is probably lying to cover his own ass, the dude doesn't want to help us. Above all take away the fake claims, just judge Jar Jar on his own merit. Do not rely on a flip flopping scum teasing survivor.
Sounds like a good plan. So when you took your vote off of me originally, I assume it's because you believed my claim. So why don't you believe it now? Did something change your mind?


................I took my vote off you because you claimed before we knew they're were fake claims in the game........................
how do you know there are fake claims in the game now?

On July 05 2013 09:22 marvellosity wrote:
Seems pretty damn likely it's how I described it earlier, given what fuba claimed.

On July 05 2013 09:24 marvellosity wrote:
oh, unless you're going for the argument that WoS is scum and lying about that stuff, right?


my point is this:
I pointed out how based on what WoS is saying about fakeclaims exonerates me. You seemed to think I made fair point and question Gumshoe about it. He responds:
On July 05 2013 08:45 gumshoe wrote:
Also WOS is probably lying to cover his own ass, the dude doesn't want to help us. Above all take away the fake claims, just judge Jar Jar on his own merit. Do not rely on a flip flopping scum teasing survivor.
I mean, I was already confirmed town which gumshoe seemed to agree with. It was only after WoS posted about fakeclaims that he decided that my claim could be fake.

He can't have it both ways. Either he is gonna pay attention to what WoS said or he isn't. Not just when it benefits his PoV.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 05 2013 03:39 GMT
#2015
On July 05 2013 11:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
JJD, im nullish to scum.
Wrong. You have a town read on me. See here:
On July 05 2013 00:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Do you think WoS had a role to fakeclaim when the subject of mass claiming came up?
On July 05 2013 00:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
What?
No I dont.
Which is why he felt fucked.

:>????

Unless for some reason you think that I had a fakeclaim while WoS didn't.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 05 2013 03:39 GMT
#2016
so gumshoe is scum JJD?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 05 2013 03:40 GMT
#2017
On July 05 2013 12:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 11:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
JJD, im nullish to scum.
Wrong. You have a town read on me. See here:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 00:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Do you think WoS had a role to fakeclaim when the subject of mass claiming came up?
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 00:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
What?
No I dont.
Which is why he felt fucked.

:>????

Unless for some reason you think that I had a fakeclaim while WoS didn't.

Im currently going with the theory that scum had fakeclaims at the start, survivor maybe, and the pause was not due to anything regarding claims.
No gg, No skill.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 05 2013 03:45 GMT
#2018
On July 05 2013 12:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 12:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On July 05 2013 11:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
JJD, im nullish to scum.
Wrong. You have a town read on me. See here:
On July 05 2013 00:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Do you think WoS had a role to fakeclaim when the subject of mass claiming came up?
On July 05 2013 00:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
What?
No I dont.
Which is why he felt fucked.

:>????

Unless for some reason you think that I had a fakeclaim while WoS didn't.

Im currently going with the theory that scum had fakeclaims at the start, survivor maybe, and the pause was not due to anything regarding claims.

And so you think WoS was lying about feeling fucked? If so then why didn't you vote for him. Or did you only start to believe he was lying after the lynch?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 05 2013 03:48 GMT
#2019
On July 05 2013 12:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 12:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 05 2013 12:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On July 05 2013 11:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
JJD, im nullish to scum.
Wrong. You have a town read on me. See here:
On July 05 2013 00:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Do you think WoS had a role to fakeclaim when the subject of mass claiming came up?
On July 05 2013 00:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
What?
No I dont.
Which is why he felt fucked.

:>????

Unless for some reason you think that I had a fakeclaim while WoS didn't.

Im currently going with the theory that scum had fakeclaims at the start, survivor maybe, and the pause was not due to anything regarding claims.

And so you think WoS was lying about feeling fucked? If so then why didn't you vote for him. Or did you only start to believe he was lying after the lynch?

I think that he felt fucked cause claiming a nontown role is bad, and fakeclaiming is also bad.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 05 2013 03:48 GMT
#2020
I think Im missing something here JJD.
No gg, No skill.
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