[T] Nuclear Winter Mafia - Page 2

On July 09 2013 04:39 Xatalos wrote:


Who would you want to lynch then?

On July 09 2013 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Xat, or Ace was right and Chez is forced to fire off fake nukes every day or some shit.

On July 09 2013 22:35 Ace wrote:


Town is not going to willy nilly claim nukes on the first day. If we all claimed we could nuke how would that tell us who nuked MZ? We can't verify anything that quickly in the game and Scum may also have nukes. That explanation is not a strong argument at all.

Also we have to be aware of a fallacy here. If MZ is Town and he was nuked, and no one claims we are assuming it came from Scum. It could come from a townie who did not want to fess up. It could have come from 3rd party who isn't claiming shit. We are assuming that not claiming = Scum motivation. rayne claims it at the end of the day, and thus should be considered Town for fessing up to a legit nuke that he came up with an explanation for ahead of time. If not, he was just setting up a gambit to catch scum. That is extremely convenient wouldn't you say so?



Ok I'm going to put myself in your shoes. I definitely believe that sometimes if a wagon is going too smoothly unopposed, it may be a Town lynch. So there were definitely legit pro-town motives for stopping the wagon. However, there also exists scum motives for stopping it if DI is Scum. Of course we do not know what his alignment is so both happen to coincide. Here is my disagreement with "Di is probably Town": He told us he would be lurking at the start of the game and peaced out. Right before his lynch, he shows up to defend himself, people are easily convinced and we end up lynching ON. My problem here is that ON also posted a credible defense, but votes still piled on to him. Look at the voting lists for DI vs ON. Lots of those people never even voted for DI. If DI is Scum and his buddies held off long enough then when they appear to vote ON they don't look bad for not vote switching on to an innocent lynch. They just happened to be convinced by austin's case and voted.

Now back to this: if you believe that rayne is scum and DI is town then why wouldn't he help change the vote? If that is thread sentiment he still appears to be Town. If neither of his scum buddies are up for vote then why does it matter? I think you have this notion that all scum play the same way and that assumption is making you think rayne must be Town. For the last time, since I've answered this so much: I pursued rayne because of MZ's post. I'm not going to throw suspicion on several people, especially at night. That accomplishes nothing. Also stop assuming I don't have suspicions anywhere else.

1.) If you do not believe rayne has the capacity to launch nukes then what do you think of MZ's post? You must be believing rayne had this gambit setup well ahead of time then correct? If he is Scum and Chez is scum then he isn't going to launch no matter what. He could have easily felt no one would go back and read early day 1. No one except MZ went back to do so. He is rightly justified in making that play then.

2.) That is a false assumption. I don't think you can even get half the forum to agree with you on that. You are flat out wrong.

On July 09 2013 22:56 Ace wrote:
Dandel. I'm not sure about my other scum reads yet, and I'd rather take care off this business first.

On July 09 2013 23:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Honestly nothing Rayn has done makes a whole lot of sense anymore so I don't know what to think.
I DO think DI is scum and needs to be destroyed, however.

On July 10 2013 05:20 Xatalos wrote:


Get your lazy self together and start playing. The D1 voting behaviour won't keep you out of the fire forever (you might even be nuked at the start of D1 at this rate).

On July 10 2013 05:22 Xatalos wrote:
I think someone quoted a post from Dandel Ion at a ScumQT thread... Something like this: "I have no motivation to play as scum. Just bus me. I will be lynched, it's inevitable." That's what your attitude is emanating right now.

On July 10 2013 05:24 Xatalos wrote:


So you admit to being scum? Or?

On July 10 2013 05:29 Xatalos wrote:


But you admitted that you feel (or at least felt before - what about these days?) unmotivated as scum.

Logical conclusion:

You feel unmotivated as scum. You are usually active and involved as town.

You've clearly felt unmotivated this game (the difference to PTP is crystal clear).

-> You are probably scum.

I think that's a reasonable deduction.

On July 21 2013 07:49 Chezinu wrote:
Oh Almost forgot!

Dandelion broke the Chezinu rule!! IT IS STILL FLAWLESS!!!

I pretended Xara broke the rule. hehe