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Alakaslam
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On June 24 2013 13:50 Onegu wrote: How is this post in any way organized? This post is just more fluff also I dont know where you are going with any of your thoughts. Onegu, look at all the [expletive] I had to snip from your quote! I messed up, and firm's bbc code sucks. It messed up mine. Erase is a feature I will use from now on. | ||
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Alakaslam
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@hzflank: yet, so far I can only make town reads. + Show Spoiler + Except: this is not only a stretch but it's "hypocritical"; Ace, one of the more dangerous scum players on TL is coaching. What better way to create fluff than to do what FirmTofu did with bbcode? Not only is it kind of a deliberate mistake (he earased a [\QUOTE] or a part thereof, or added one at the top I think) but it makes anyone quoting him or a quoter te perfect spambot, as you can see! Really clever move if scum. Hard mistake to justify as town, but then, neither Onegu (who I think is town) nor I (who I know is town) hit preview first. Still, he is attacking people and whatnot, which is not really bad for town per say. TL;DR: FirmTofu explain what happened with your bbcode that messed up onegu and my posts. It's pissing me off, I pride myself on being able to manage bbcode from my iPhone, a stressful quad-post in my early days produced that. + Show Spoiler + Tank stacking thread. Anyone willing to run a search on Ace and see if he has done anything like that before? Crap, I can see the hole this makes. If we find that's scum play then MAN, we will have to be careful this game as it's really creative. OMGIS! I fell for a bbcode error?!?? | ||
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Alakaslam
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On June 24 2013 14:45 Onegu wrote: There will always be a lynch this game, so proveing guilt is always better in this game. Ok- thank you for clearing that up. Well, I went and searched Ace. @him: you post a lot in NBA man! Sure enough, check him out in Roulette. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414632&user=Ace Super long posts, disorganized, not using bbcode stuff but who erases a [/quote] and if it was an accident, what was being erased before it that led to that? Will be watching FirmTofu! Who lurks now? It's 11pm and I still post- great point by the local Scandinavian! :D Now, as I requested a Ban from KadaverBB for just this reason back when, and I have work tomorrow, see you all later. Hopefully I can make a better scum hunt then. | ||
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Alakaslam
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 sorry guys | ||
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Alakaslam
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From the post for us newbs: "Please do not talk about any ongoing games either in-game or pre-game. This can affect other games and is unacceptable. Please do not refer to outside-of- thread activity of players in this thread." I have already messed up in this regard and I apologize. But note some folks have also talked about meta from previous newbie games and I don't think we are allowed to do that either. Will ask In green tomorrow when not trying to go to bed and when at computer. (iPhone) | ||
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Alakaslam
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On June 24 2013 15:35 Onegu wrote: We are ok since the games we are talking about have finished already. Sweet! Thanks again Onegu. I think I'll read those then- Tomorrow. Man this is worse than angry birds, I am thoroughly addicted. For now here is a list, so ALL of town can meta :D http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=412757 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=407058 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=405359 Sorry that there is no meta on me, I'm that new. Note that some players may not only have played newbie games. Search their names! How late you want me up, midnight? I get up at 5 tomorrow! Also, check that you don't get into the above error first. | ||
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Alakaslam
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On June 25 2013 00:04 Onegu wrote: Looking over Alakaslam's filter it is really bad. He posts fluff about dinner promiseing to make real posts after he is finished, but then all he posts is something about bbc code amd the scum coach not really looking into anything real. Why bring up the scum coach? Because what FirmTofu did was so bad it messed US up. (Remember?). So I thought maybe Ace may have coached him to do that and looked him up. He does make super long posts. The stuff of substance was more along the lines of explaining the fluff, yes, but reminding you- that I was stating that I am a rampant fanboy of Blazinghand, Kenpachi, Hapahuli, and Coagulation. I didn't go into that much detail but there it is. So you want substance? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mOHGjne.jpg) Here is Blazinghand's Venn diagram. Lets look at what makes sense about your claims regarding me. On June 24 2013 14:11 Alakaslam wrote: Doesn't town want to make lots of scum reads early and get people to defend themselves? Proving innocence is a great goal for us, and helps to narrow down the scum list so that no-lynch is less likely to happen. Then again, good point regarding spicy and whatnot. Hopefully, cases will flesh out and things will become clearer. Personally I don't have any reads yet, still reading thread. As Scum, does it make ANY sense to point out that we should be accusing each other? Yet I did this. This just does not fall in the category of things it makes sense for scum to do. I do agree that much of what I have posted has been odd. You know where a lot of that comes from? + Show Spoiler + sheeping your corrections of my mistakes bro Which I appreciate but late at night it was killing my confidence. Don't worry about doing that further though. I have nothing to hide. Show me some substantial posts so far! I don't want to drop a deuce on everyone but what HAS been very useful so far? Chromatically has been attacked, hasn't really defended himself yet, but others have defended for him. Odd. Then he came in and kind of defended himself. I have attacked FirmTofu, mostly out of bitterness due to the bbcode. Aqua has been attacked, almost for attacking chromatically and for the same reason you have been and I have been- "inactivity". Note I am bound to be bad town this first game. I have learned much from you my good man. If it helps, you guide my vote until you look scummy. + Show Spoiler + a few questions for you now. Why is it bad to read meta on newbs? Wouldn't a drastic change between games hint at a role switch? And why then does my apology for citing ace cause you to say "we're fine, the games have finished" and then to turn around and call me out for it? And why, why on earth do you cite my fluff when you didn't have the sense to snip the quote either? Should have put "^^ how is this organized Alakaslam?" A it is your case is a bit hypocritical :| . . . | ||
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Alakaslam
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Well Define: quality. Senseless accusations? No, there are people who have done that that there is suspicion toward. I don't see how that helps. Accusing, from me, is going to require more evidence. I'm sorry, I just don't read people very well (yet), and I don't want to do what I have been doing. Well then, does aiding town count? "Shouldn't town be accusing and whatnot because it establishes innocence and is how you scumhunt etc etc" paraphrase. "Oh meta is allowed? People have decided they want meta? Here you go, last three newbie games, top of page 13!  ""Well shit* guys I posted nothing but fluff, really sorry about that" See the above Venn diagram, read my filter, then put it in context reading the thread. It's not scum play it's just try hard bad town. Give me a day/ night cycle and it won't be so bad, more info and I might find one. *earlier I was putting [expletive]. My PC is also linked to my workplace. | ||
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Alakaslam
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See how I roll? Am I going to make those accusations? Maybe (I'm kind of doing just that) but in this case, it's because he already has a vote, and I am thinking of helping a bandwagon. I WANT firm to show up as town, I am super nervous about mislynching! But I need to make a case it seems, and this is what I got because frankly I don't see any great cases yet. ##Vote: FirmTofu Out because work | ||
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Alakaslam
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On June 25 2013 01:05 Onegu wrote: It is bad to connect meta on noobs because depending on what worked one game and what didnt work they will change how they play, meta is forming patterns based on peoples play, you cannot form a pattern on what someone did after only 2 -3 games. And I was refering to your asking about ongoing games when I said we are fine because we are citing games already finished, it had nothing to do with who you are citing but what you are asking about. I want you to form cases based on peoples posts and ask questions not go find old games and base you thoughts on what a coach did in one of his old games. ##unvote: FirmTofu. Will try to fix mess after work. | ||
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Alakaslam
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On June 25 2013 02:12 Spicydinosaur wrote: The bolded part what bothers me. Trying not to make waves is a perfect way to go unnoticed in a game. Too much activity and everyones looking at you, too little and your a lurker who gets a big spotlight on you. Awesome point, work lull so SPICY AND ONEGU YOU ARE SCUMBUDDIES DEFENSE YOURSELFS + Show Spoiler + look at me everyone, LOOK at me and see that I am town! Press me, press me hard because 1. That's how I get better at town and 2. Because I am drawing suspicion as town which doesn't help town. And therefore, in the interests of town, if I am scum I am suiciding! THESE ARE MY TOWNREADS. DO AS THEY DO! Nonetheless, defend yourselves. You've both been attacked (especially you, spicy!). I have made a baseless claim of guilt on you two, nevertheless defend it. Why should I think what I do? Prove yourselves town, then lead it! LETS GO SEE YOU AFTER WORK | ||
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Alakaslam
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On June 25 2013 02:47 Onegu wrote: Ebwop I figured it out Alakaslam is Umasi's cocaine dealer!!! Sup, you found me + Show Spoiler + hahahahahaha gotta admit I lol'ed On a serious note, I will read. Pleas realize folks I'm not trying to detract from clarity but every time I shut up I'm a lurker. So I wind up posting fluff and weasels like my "case" against Onegu and spicy. That was WHOLLY to make a sarcastic point- that I am town, and between a rock and a hard place because I have weak deductive reasoning. That being said a skim made me think hzflank's case on chromatically interesting, I plan to read it slowly with chromatic ally's replies. Be just a sec. And work, duh, yet where are you stimaddict? | ||
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Alakaslam
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On June 25 2013 14:51 hzflank wrote: In my opinion, Alakaslam has posted the single most scummy sentence in this thread. On the whole I do not think Alakaslam is scummy, but I do think the following post aimed at Onegu should be taken notice of. Alakaslam, at the time that you posted that, what gave you such a strong town read on Onegu? Looooooong day today. Work came up unexpected in a nigh unbelievable way. Still reading , but this caught my eye. Onegu has consistently cleared up my shit, I mean look at the crap I have posted. He pointed out errors in my play so much he alerted me to my shortcomings and alerted the town of potential distraction, as caused by me! Not only is he a strong townread for me, he is my strongest and I stand by that claim to sheep him. Doesn't mean I'm 100%, but pretty close! Will keep reading. Don't expect much until night if I don't get lynched though because my head is even more upside down than when I'm not tired out of my skull | ||
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Alakaslam
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On June 25 2013 18:48 Onegu wrote: I believe this is his first game of mafia ever irl or forum and he got scum read over some old games and didnt really know what to do so he tried to look active by posting but didnt actually post anything useful. I think he is scum but to be honest doesnt he doesnt know what he is doing. This is half true. I was terrified of being lynched, scum fall prey to that but there are other roles that have this affect on newbs. There is nothing I can do and I saw this coming soon a my quote included "make it clean like this guys" and it was the absolute worst looking post in the thread after having posted just to show that I was no lurker. I also played selfishly (as you'll see on flip) rather than from a town mindset. I started to seek survival and that is scummy and I know it too, is the sad thing. Just didn't put 2 &2 together, did not expect to wind up feeling like I was all survivalist as town :p I'm really sorry I couldn't put anything useful down before my likely exit, but this is my last ditch effort: Allow me to last the night. I still can't do much but I am a broken sheep, so looks like I'll go independent. Scum reads? Finally got one: Aquanim. Haven't read filters, haven't got a case, just want to contribute a skimmer's gut feeling before possible drasticness. Take it or leave it, especially as I must sleep as checkout is 1 pm and I checked In at a defeated 4:30. Fail at job, fail here but there is always another game  and the farm will irrigate again in a week or less.Ps: actually I have done table mafia but that is very different, I suck at that because I have AS. I thought I'd have a chance here, and still think so- just decided to go nuts in terror despite some awesome coaching to the contrary :D :S Great learning experience! The greats do what they do with skill. A silver leaguer trying to sentry expand may often find it countered by mass hydra (olllld WoL meta)- must start with Probes and Pylons, Probes and Pylons. Btw have a surprise final post if I get lynched/ killed XD See y'all around, when I was looking scummy to myself I knew OMGIS, it wassa comin! Good luck my friends, you will need it. DON'T not lynch me just because I had a hard day, if I really look scummy Lynch me dammit! Towns must know how to COMMIT! >: ) ##Vote: Aquanim | ||
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Alakaslam
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GOOD night. I'm beat. Can't read right now and I follow gut NOW while I live. | ||
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Alakaslam
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## Unvote: Aquanim | ||
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Alakaslam
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On June 26 2013 03:50 Xzavier wrote: I dont get why aqua and chrome are voting somebody they know can be a good town. I havnt made huge cases yet, i havnt had time to. ill be active during night one if im still aliv. I would prefer to delay my lynch until day2. today id like a lynch on alakazam or aqua. idc which. ill probably choose between the two on my break fepending on the situation. IF I DO GET LYNCHED: everybody take a long hard look at aqua and chrom. and look at alakazam now he lurks and one of his few posts was saying im sheeping and doing no scumhunting this game until the guy im sheeping looks scummy. the godfather last game i was in said something almost identical to that. its a pretty big noob scum tell imo. alone it judt warrents serious investifagation. Well it appears I'm wanted alive another cycle, but that was my point. In Town's interest I wanted to be lynched to make the point I'll just state. You know, when someone is lurking (doing irl stuff), it is hard to defend lurking when you get back because you haven't been reading the thread, so you have no scum reads. This is worse when you're so daft you can't get a read even reading the thread. Trying to contribute in other ways can do wonders (Onegu has handled that very well) but you must actually be helpful of course. If not, the town lynch is no loss. It is good (not ideal, but good) town play to eliminate players like myself. If we can contribute nothing of value to the thread, mislynch ing us is a good way to cut out our fluff. Xzavier. I know you don't have a lot of time. But I will tell you how to get my vote off your back: No, wait. My promise. I'm not voting you yet. I will read your filter and Decide. | ||
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Alakaslam
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On June 26 2013 08:57 Xzavier wrote: Relax ill flip green. i think the reason there wasnt a scum counterplay id s because scum took iniative. Hen town hopped on boaredm since it looks like im pretty dead. Can somebody explain to me why im scum! Lol. Well I think your town by your filter, so that is how you get my vote off your back. Unfortunately, the strong scum read on me will make this only reinforce the case against you to some. Still have to read other people's, glancing at phone when not busy. Really sorry about being so useless. | ||
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Alakaslam
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On June 26 2013 09:24 Aquanim wrote: Not any more. I'd prefer to let him post for another day and improve my read on him, I can still believe his play from town or from scum at this point. If we absolutely had to switch, I'd say Alakaslam or StiMaDDict, but they would basically be policy lynches for me. I don't think this thread is going to progress much until Xzavier flips though, so I'm very much opposed to shenanigans at this point. Let's face it, if we don't lynch him today, we'll spend tomorrow deciding whether to lynch him too. I'd prefer to move on. Bolded. Thank you for this Aquanim, I think it has opened my eyes to something possible. Let us see this diagram again. People will see this and have different takeaways. I had a noobish and asinine take on it, but what take will a savvy scum player have? Scum wants to survive. If you are ignored (as I am being temporarily, or was anyway) you don't get lynched now do you... Disclaimer: Back to filters, I have no read on Onegu and this is not an accusation- yet. I am prone to mood swings though it seems! | ||
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