Newbie Mini Mafia XLIII - Page 18

On June 25 2013 07:46 FirmTofu wrote:

1) I think it's fairly obvious to a third party that you were referring to Aquanim's post when you quoted the quote and that you are trying to draw attention away from your response to Hurricane.

2) For fyfy, I still hold that there is no difference between the lurkers and you claimed that there is a difference. I think your reasons for claiming that there is a difference are stupid and make no sense because only one line separated one from the other. Why do you continue to defend fyfy? It's quite intriguing.

3) NO. I did not vote for you because I thought you voted for me. I voted you because you accused me. I was under the assumption that you had voted for me, but I have already acknowledged that that was a mistake.

Remember this post, where you said, "Chrom did bring up some townie points on you and I dont have my vote on you because I wasn't convinced you were scum, otherwise it wouldn't be on it. "

Then I said, "Okay sure, but this is still standard procedure for scum. Scum wouldn't want to be the driving force behind a lynch that they know to be town because they would have to deal with the consequences of the flip the following day."

When I said that, I meant that it would still make sense for you to be scum when you have accused me but have not voted me because you want me dead, but don't want to be regarded as the cause of my death. Therefore, you being scum is perfectly compatible with you not voting for me. The fact that you have since backed off of your accusations against me is only furthering my suspicions that you are scum because you know that pursuing a lynch against me would lynch a townie and would ultimately end with your demise.

In other words, all of your actions are still compatible with you being scum, so my vote remains.

4) What? I quoted everything and responded to everything you said. Now you are just plain lying to discredit me.

Now you are just plain lying to discredit me.

On June 25 2013 07:57 Spicydinosaur wrote:

1. i stand by my response to hurricanes post, his was full of fluff and lacked content. what i said in reply to aqua applies to hurricane because he was the one who started talking about the whole NN issue. It's pretty clear.

2. you keep insisting that im defending fyfy when all i have ever said is that stim looked scummier. YOU are the one who keeps saying that im defending him.

3. This point has been done to death and you keep changing what you are saying about it. First im scum for voting you then im scum for not voting you then im scum and my vote on you never mattered.

4. In your original post where you voted me you had your case. I countered with my 7 points and then you only responded to a few and acknowledged you were wrong on at least one. The fact that you didnt talk about the others shows that you backed off them.



As i said before, for someone who thinks im scum because you think i went personal on someone else, you are throwing insults around a lot.

On June 25 2013 08:05 FirmTofu wrote:


1. I don't think it's clear at all. You can keep saying that, but it simply isn't true.

2. Of course I'm the one saying you are defending him. Who else would say it? By saying Stim looks scummier, you imply that fyfy doesn't look scummy. That's a way of defending him.

3. You continue to misinterpret my position. You are scum for accusing me on flimsy evidence. You are scum for withdrawing only when I accuse you back. You are scum for not withdrawing when Chromatically posted his views on my alignment. You are scum for plenty of things, but voting me isn't one of them. Your vote on me would have mattered if you had the opportunity to remove it, but it doesn't matter because you never actually voted me.

4. I responded to 6 of the 7 points, because the first one had already been discussed. Then, you responded to about 4 of my points. I responded to all of those, and we exchanged blows from there. I don't think you can rightfully say I am picking and choosing my arguments.

On June 25 2013 08:14 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I've said everything i need to defend myself and anyone looking at it will see how weak your argument is.

On June 25 2013 05:54 Chromatically wrote:
Okay, last question:

Why do you want your timestamps to match QTs?

On June 25 2013 08:59 hzflank wrote:


Why did you ask the above question to me?

Aquanim hopes that he can get a few town to agree that the NN should out themselves. Then his scumbuddies can also agree and the NN might claim, giving an advantage to the scum team. Since Hurricane did not get a hard time, Aquanim does not think that he will be lynched for being the first to make the suggestion. Aquanim is fairly sure that when the time comes he can rely on Hurricanes vote for NN to claim, so he really only needs two more town votes, which makes it worth a try.

On June 25 2013 10:44 Chromatically wrote:
I think that Xzavier is actually the one I want to lynch today.

On June 24 2013 12:35 Xzavier wrote:
Fuck me, i just typed somethign really nice all out and accidentally switched windows. Take two:

First actual post of this game:

This is my first game involving tracker/watcher/ect.

Okay, from what iv learned so far is that town has some borderline useless roles (tracker watcher)
The opprotunities where they would be beneficial are so rare that its hardly useful, and with the exisance of a NN it could all be BS. So there really is barely any information to gain, and if you do get any of this slightly more than useless info, its unreliable.

But, the flipside. We have Parity cop who can effectively check two people every night. He shouldnt claim. Unless he is getting lynched (and we will still lynch you, mind this) You should say who you have found as scum, or confirmed town.

You can take your strongest town read and then strongest scum read, and compare them. if the are two different alignments, its pretty obvious who is who. IF you REALLY want to play like a traditional cop. then select one of the two names as yourself, this way you can see if they are the same alignment as you (town) or not (scum)

Seriously OP imo ^^

we also hav veteran/vigi who are strong roles as well. And as shown by last game, JK can be stupidly good as well.

I like this setup for town,

Framer does make things tricky, but the cop check is still reliable (odds of you two picking same target are rare, this is why you shouldnt claim if you think you have found 1 scum alone anyway, IF he was fraimed: our cop is dead and we lose a townie).

Framer is actually a rather strong role in and of itself.

I still like this setup. basically all the tracker/watcher/NN stuff looks borderline useless to me, as iv already stated. Obviously nobody should claim. But they arnt the strongest of roles.

On June 24 2013 13:37 Xzavier wrote:
If i was parity cop i would claim NN lol. be the best fucking play. But seriously dont do this.

Im just reading from phone now. will post a case or two in the morning.

Whens the deadline?

On June 25 2013 11:00 Aquanim wrote:

Is there anything in particular that makes you want to lynch Xzavier over Onegu? Their posting to date seems to be of a similar character to me, except that Onegu has been in the thread while interesting things have happened and still hasn't contributed much.

On June 25 2013 11:09 Xzavier wrote:
okay, i just want to say that half of you are fucking retarded,


now, im watching day9. after him, im going to show you all how fucking retarded you are.