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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 17 2013 22:21 GMT
#48
/in
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 21 2013 02:14 GMT
#63
What happens if Marv is scum?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 21 2013 22:07 GMT
#514
Well this is an awkward timing to come back >.>

Someone ask me a really hard question, I need to gain some feel into the game.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 21 2013 22:08 GMT
#515
(I have like a 1 hr window to post, then you have to wait till Saturday morning for further responses)
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 21 2013 22:26 GMT
#525
On June 22 2013 07:12 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 22 2013 07:07 slOosh wrote:
Well this is an awkward timing to come back >.>

Someone ask me a really hard question, I need to gain some feel into the game.


You can have 2, can't make promises about their difficulty.

1) What do you make of coag's unrelenting campaign to get me lynched?
2) What do you make of Corazon deciding Oats is definitely scum ("it's clear to me") and then disappearing to pop up with a cajoling post for Ange, and not pushing that read on the rest of the thread?

1) Alignment neutral - he could easily be making it as either town or scum.

2) It's like, 1 post, so doesn't mean much.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 21 2013 22:28 GMT
#527
On June 22 2013 07:23 Ange777 wrote:
@Cora:

I would not call you scum yet but marv is right. You haven't really touched any subject besides Oats. How do you feel about goodkarma and ShiaoPi?

I don't think marv said that, I don't think that it's quite true, and I don't see how it's scummy if it was. Agree / disagree?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 21 2013 22:39 GMT
#534
On June 22 2013 07:30 marvellosity wrote:
Damn slOosh, I was hoping for something wordier. Try this one on then:
3) Do yamato and hapa's interactions today look natural, like two townies interacting? Or how do you view it?

I'll try to answer it, but could you first clarify either a string of posts / pages for me to refer to, or perhaps the dialogue that you found strange / scummy / (? I'm not sure). I don't really look at interactions unless we get some flips that point me that way.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 21 2013 22:43 GMT
#537
On June 22 2013 07:38 Hapahauli wrote:
@ slOosh

I'm more interested in the content you decide to produce yourself (namely scumhunting) than anything else. Are you all caught up?

More or less. The general things that caught my eye were ObviousOne's entry and ShiaoPi's entry.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 21 2013 22:52 GMT
#541
On June 22 2013 07:42 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 22 2013 07:39 slOosh wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:30 marvellosity wrote:
Damn slOosh, I was hoping for something wordier. Try this one on then:
3) Do yamato and hapa's interactions today look natural, like two townies interacting? Or how do you view it?

I'll try to answer it, but could you first clarify either a string of posts / pages for me to refer to, or perhaps the dialogue that you found strange / scummy / (? I'm not sure). I don't really look at interactions unless we get some flips that point me that way.


Bottom of page 24 through page 26. And don't tell me what you usually do when you specifically asked for tricky questions to get your mind in the game, dearest :p

I wasn't making a judgement on their exchange, was just looking to see how you felt about it and why.

Apologies ^.^

What I took out of it was that yamato backed off, so he must have some degree of town read + respect for you (marv) and Hapa. He (yamato) said he will put him (ShiaoPi) on his watch list, which is great because it means more stuff from ShiaoPi and yamato held to higher degree of contribution. Nothing worrisome yet for me.

I like this ObviousOne direction. Let's hammer out some more discussion / focus on him. Here's what caught my eye
On June 21 2013 14:13 ObviousOne wrote:
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On June 21 2013 13:49 Hapahauli wrote:
In all seriousness, I do want to policy lynch Oats. Every game I've played with him, he's contributed to a toxic town atmosphere by tunneling obv-townies beyond the point of reason. I'm all for killing him until I find an actual scum-read.

I'm getting town vibes from Oats.

What you said is mostly correct, however. He is a good policy lynch if it comes down to one. He mucks up the thread with his random interjections. His tunnels can be beyond paranoid. I don't see a reason to think he's mafia.

Coag, what do you think about Oats and my thoughts regarding him? Are you going to hit-and-run style post all game?

He asks Coag (of all people), about his thoughts on Oats (a town read). If he wanted thoughts on Oats, there were people already talking about it. If he wanted thoughts from Coag, I think there could have been better questions. Do you think this is strange / different / scummy?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 21 2013 23:05 GMT
#546
On June 22 2013 07:49 Hapahauli wrote:
@ sloOsh
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 07:43 slOosh wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:38 Hapahauli wrote:
@ slOosh

I'm more interested in the content you decide to produce yourself (namely scumhunting) than anything else. Are you all caught up?

More or less. The general things that caught my eye were ObviousOne's entry and ShiaoPi's entry.


Can you give me a fuller opinion on Shiao (besides his entry of course)?

Umm ... his other posts look better. I like that he is posting on goodkarma, which is "unique" (opposed to going with the flow non contributary post scum sometimes make). I'll wait on reading goodkarma's posts and their interaction before I can give you a better judgement call than that.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 21 2013 23:10 GMT
#547
And my time is up

I enjoyed this pleasant exchange marv. I hope we can continue it tomorrow morning. I dearly hope you are not blindsiding me. I've decided to latch onto you, and deciding that whatever you are looking at is worth looking into, since I need some way to adapt to a higher post game.

Affectionately,
dearest slOosh
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 22 2013 20:41 GMT
#899
Sorry I'm late, here and catching up
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 22 2013 21:29 GMT
#921
My goodness I'm still not comfortable.

I don't like goodkarma because he does nothing to get his ShiaoPi push across. He comes to conclusion that ShiaoPi is scum with the case and whatnot, pops in 17 hours later to say "ShiaoPi hasn't done anything I'm comfortable with my vote", and then
On June 22 2013 21:29 goodkarma wrote:
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On June 22 2013 21:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually (after re-reading), after Hapa writes his "case" on me i'll tell you the following things:
1) Why Hapa and yamato are scum
2) Why marv is town
3) How i play as scum and how i play as town
4) Why i am town and see point #1


I don't see why you'd tell us this, and then sit on said writeup... We have 10 1/2 hours before lynch, and it seems we're nowhere close to coming to some kind of consolidation. If you have some kind of damning super-convincing case on Hapa/Yamato, why not get it out in the open now?

Berates rayn for not being forthright, expressing concern of consolidation but has done very little himself in convincing others that ShiaoPi is scum and should put votes on him.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 22 2013 21:30 GMT
#922
And I feel iffy because you could say that ShiaoPi is sort of in the same camp. Still rereading.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 22 2013 21:50 GMT
#940
Right now I'm spending time looking into the context of DP's stance on ObviousOne.

On June 21 2013 18:07 DarthPunk wrote:
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On June 21 2013 17:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 21 2013 17:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Hey Rayn what do you think about obvious being willing to policy lynch his town read?

It makes no sense. In Red Team's Prize i was all in for lynching town!OO for making a case on me that mostly said "rayn is doing this or that, i don't know what does it make him". After that game, when he flipped town, i have mostly ignored him and let other people do the reading on him, as i suck at it. I always find him suspicious regardless of his alignment. But yeah, his comment makes no sense to me. Do you think it makes him scum or not?

What do you think about Hapa buying yamato's explanation behind his reads? Also why the hell are you buying it?

On June 21 2013 17:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
he was scum.
And I would use meta if the most recent games differ from previous games because in my experience, i play similar to the most recent games. SO THEREFORE, the next time shiao pi plays scum, it would be similar to that game and not a game a a month or so ago.

Do you remember from top of your head which game that was?

Yeah pretty much the same. Like in carnival cruise mafia I was sure he was scum in the game and in the obs qt for days. Like to me he always seems super scummy. He could just be bad and be wanting to policy lynch his town read, and he could be scum being wishy washy as fuck. if it was anyone other than obvious, I would want to lynch them for being willing to lynch their major town read.

On June 21 2013 18:15 DarthPunk wrote:
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On June 21 2013 18:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And what was the purpose of asking me about OO in the first place?

Because I need help figuring him out. I would think from your response that that would be obvious.

He professes having problems reading OO. I'm double checking to see what gives him the bolster of confidence.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 22 2013 21:54 GMT
#944
So did he follow up with you when you unvoted OO?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 22 2013 21:58 GMT
#952
On June 23 2013 06:43 marvellosity wrote:
I just don't get why a mafia DP would decline repeatedly to comment on the Hapa case. It doesn't make sense to me.

Marv could I get a follow up on this one? Why wouldn't town DP just say from the getgo
On June 23 2013 01:35 DarthPunk wrote:
You know what I think about your case? I think it was bad. I think it took you a long time to say not much about why hapa is scum and CERTAINLY nothing convincing enough to make me want to lynch hapa day one.

Like basically you are saying hapa didn't respond to a question and was vague about scum reads. Fine. That is not enough to lynch anyone. If your case had blown me away then I would be far more willing to (IMO) waste time talking about a hapa lynch over an obvious lynch. But it didn't so I wasn't.

instead of refusing to do it?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 22 2013 22:04 GMT
#958
Marv you don't think DP is someone who is comfortable with pressure as scum? Also want to echo Ange777's question
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 22 2013 22:08 GMT
#967
On June 23 2013 07:04 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 23 2013 07:04 slOosh wrote:
Marv you don't think DP is someone who is comfortable with pressure as scum? Also want to echo Ange777's question

there's a difference between being comfortable with pressure and bringing massive, unnecessary pressure on to yourself, don't you think?

I think you are overemphasizing the 3 votes a bit - you saw that they were quickly removed as they were put on.

You said yourself it doesn't make sense for town DP to do that either. So I don't understand how you are using something alignment null to say DP is leaning town.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 22 2013 22:09 GMT
#970
On June 23 2013 07:06 Ange777 wrote:
@Sloosh:

Earlier you were suspicious of Obvious' entry post. I asked you what exactly made you suspicious but never saw a reply for that one.

On June 22 2013 07:52 slOosh wrote:
I like this ObviousOne direction. Let's hammer out some more discussion / focus on him. Here's what caught my eye
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 14:13 ObviousOne wrote:
On June 21 2013 13:49 Hapahauli wrote:
In all seriousness, I do want to policy lynch Oats. Every game I've played with him, he's contributed to a toxic town atmosphere by tunneling obv-townies beyond the point of reason. I'm all for killing him until I find an actual scum-read.

I'm getting town vibes from Oats.

What you said is mostly correct, however. He is a good policy lynch if it comes down to one. He mucks up the thread with his random interjections. His tunnels can be beyond paranoid. I don't see a reason to think he's mafia.

Coag, what do you think about Oats and my thoughts regarding him? Are you going to hit-and-run style post all game?

He asks Coag (of all people), about his thoughts on Oats (a town read). If he wanted thoughts on Oats, there were people already talking about it. If he wanted thoughts from Coag, I think there could have been better questions. Do you think this is strange / different / scummy?

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