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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 03:25 GMT
#1136
and yes cora, yamato looks really townie after the flip.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 03:26 GMT
#1138
On June 23 2013 12:24 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 12:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yes, i do believe yamato is town for his actions now, as we have a fucking mafia flip.

I however did not know that when i wrote the case, so please... do not associate the case on yamato at any point because:
1) it's not
2) it's not


I'm not accusing of you of thinking that now. I'm saying that a major portion of your old case on me is about Yamato. Take that out, and there's very little else of substance.

So what is it exactly that you find me scummy for then?

You are not trying to solve tha game, you are trying to lynch whoever you can and that's bad.
Basically that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 03:32 GMT
#1146
On June 23 2013 12:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 12:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 23 2013 12:24 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 23 2013 12:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yes, i do believe yamato is town for his actions now, as we have a fucking mafia flip.

I however did not know that when i wrote the case, so please... do not associate the case on yamato at any point because:
1) it's not
2) it's not


I'm not accusing of you of thinking that now. I'm saying that a major portion of your old case on me is about Yamato. Take that out, and there's very little else of substance.

So what is it exactly that you find me scummy for then?

You are not trying to solve tha game, you are trying to lynch whoever you can and that's bad.
Basically that.


Okay, and what specifically about my game points to that?

You can make statements about my play, cool, but I can't exactly defend myself if you provide no rationale for it.

Everything!
Can you say how you are trying to solve the game? Seriously, wtf?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 03:34 GMT
#1151
TLDR;
I think my case on you Hapa was very clear. I'm not a fan of quoted posts and shit, i said what i saw in your play and i think you are scum. Why is this so hard?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 03:37 GMT
#1156
nothing is based on yamato being scum. wtf are you saying?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 03:38 GMT
#1158
and nothing is also based on things you "were doing when you were asleep".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 03:47 GMT
#1161
On June 23 2013 12:40 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 12:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
nothing is based on yamato being scum. wtf are you saying?


Literally half of your case that you asked me to answer was based on my views on Yamato. Do you want me to quote your own case for you? Surely you can read it.

Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 12:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
and nothing is also based on things you "were doing when you were asleep".


Yes it is. You were basically accusing me of dropping suspicion on you then leaving. When I posted something at 5am in the morning as my final thoughts before I went to bed. I obviously had no chance to elaborate on my suspicions, since I was drooling on my pillow.

No.
Just no.
Fuck you.
Your views on yamato is not equivalent to yamato is scum / town. How the fuck do you go from that to saying "rayn is saying my alignment depends on yamatos alignment"?
All i was saying was that you viewed yamato as town (if you can read the case ffs) with very little reasoning, which sets off alarm bells for you. So no, i have never said yamato's alignment has something to do with yours (besides the fact that i thought you were both scum, which i have changed my opinion on - but that has NOTHING to do with the case on you).

I asked you why you were dropping off your suspicions on your MOST SCUMREAD, GK. That is fucking relevant as we just know DP flipped scum and you did not vote for him. Obviously you are full of shit.

kthxbye.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 03:56 GMT
#1165
why the fuck are you talking about yamato as my read on you has nothing to do with yamato as explained?
and why did you not say this about GK before the flip? I asked you about it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 03:57 GMT
#1166
On June 23 2013 12:53 Adam4167 wrote:
Rayn, how can you hammer Hapa for not being on the DP lynch when you yourself were also not on that lynch?

this has nothing to do with Hapa not being on DP lynch.
Why don't you see that?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 04:02 GMT
#1170
I'm going to bed now and cya all tomorrow.
Sorry for beinbg a dick if anyone feels so, i still think hapa is scum.,
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 04:05 GMT
#1175
On June 23 2013 13:00 Adam4167 wrote:
Then why say this:

Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 12:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I asked you why you were dropping off your suspicions on your MOST SCUMREAD, GK. That is fucking relevant as we just know DP flipped scum and you did not vote for him. Obviously you are full of shit.

kthxbye.


What point are you trying to make with the underlined if not that Hapa wasnt on the DP wagon?

You underlined it, i did not. I was saying Hapa was on GK wagon and i don't think he never pursued it as he would as town (see my original case). I am not as cheap to say "Hapa is scum because he was on the wrong wagon" as i do know that means nothing. Now, sleep.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 04:07 GMT
#1177
On June 23 2013 13:02 Hapahauli wrote:
afjhakwejfnasmdfnasmdnf

I just addressed your case and you are not responding to me oh my god

I am really tired and i will respond to you the first thing in the morning.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 04:08 GMT
#1178
FUCK I HAVE SAID OATS IS TOWN, I HAVE GIVEN REASONS FOR IT ALSO!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 04:10 GMT
#1179
if you can't read my filter and see what do i think of Oats you are lazy as fuck or have other intentions.
Now, I REALLY AM GOING TO BED. CYA TOMORROW.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 16:53 GMT
#1341
I have a terrible hangover so i am not going to try to have more of a headache today by rereading.

I am still suspicious of Hapa. I don't think anyone who voted for DP is scum unless GK is scum too, but i find it kinda hard to believe there would be only 2 scum wagons at the end of the day. That does not just sit well with me, especially considering my scumreads are not lurkers. I still think Oats is town for what i have said and i don't like how Hapa was (and apparently is?) unable to understand my read on him. I have no idea why he thought Oats was mafia last night.

I need to relook into Cora, as his reads were pretty shitty in my opinion when he last gave them. I also have suspicions towards Adam. I have no idea who he thinks is scum and that's really worrisome.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 17:01 GMT
#1344
marvellosity do you think my case on Hapa boiled down to him being asleep and him and yamato both being scum and nothing more when you read it?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 17:17 GMT
#1346
And 4) He suddenly went off from questioning GK, his top scumread and focused on completely different things.

Now, how does Hapa's answers to me last night make sense again?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 17:42 GMT
#1350
Fuck i am really bad at explaining myself. I'll try to explain better how i view the GK thing as people seem to not get it.

Hapa asked yamato about me and DP. First thing that should raise alarm bells is that yamato answered that he will re-read my posts, not DP's, who was his bigger scumread than me at that time. However, Hapa is completely fine with that. Yamato never gets back to him after that reread and Hapa is also perfectly fine with that.

This is not scumhunting at all. After this he says GK is no more a good lynch when nothing has changed and that he wants to lynch Sloosh/Ange, when some time earlier he liked Sloosh's posts.

I don't see how he is trying to scumhunt. He is rather trying to seem like contributive and trying to lynch whoever he can at that time.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 17:51 GMT
#1351
On June 24 2013 00:06 cDgCorazon wrote:
You.

Perhaps Ange, as it would be really easy for scum to cast doubt on me and push for my lynch D2. That got me really suspicious.

The third one is probably in one of the lurkers and semi-lurkers (GK/ShiaoPi/Coag/OO/SloOsh and others I'm probably forgetting).

Cora explain your reads.

Your top suspect seems to be Oats, why?
Your second suspect just lynched a mafia Godfather and you are suspicious of her because she is suspicious of you?
Your pool for third suspect is everyone besides me/Hapa/marv, and maybe we fall into the category of "others i am probably forgetting".

You are suspicious of every person in the game with little to no reasoning? Seriously?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2013 17:58 GMT
#1354
How the hell does yamato being probably town have to do anything with that? Did Hapa somehow know that yamato was town back then, because if he did i can't think of many explanations to that? Why would you ask questions from other people if you don't follow them up?

Do me a favor, go back and read that interaction from D1 and tell me what town!Hapahauli is trying to achieve by doing what he did.
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