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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 21 2013 12:41 GMT
#388
On June 21 2013 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: I apparently missed your "nothing at all yet" post. Is that really everything you have to say about her atm?


Like what do you expect people to say about her? shea hasn't done anything but ask some questions.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 22 2013 00:41 GMT
#550
On June 22 2013 06:57 Ange777 wrote:
Okay, so first of all to answer your question:

@DarthPunk:

I have not played any recent games with ObviousOne, so I don't know why he would be scummy for doing the same as Hapa. Do you have any "proof" to show that a townie ObviousOne should not do this?

@rayn:

I didn't understand whether Oats was seriously referring to his own reasoning as bad. So after he clarified it, I felt like I could understand how he got his reads. Regarding Coag, I really don't like his filter but people seem to simply ignore him (even marv does not take him seriously and he is the target of Coag's lynch campaign) so I prefer to concentrate on people I have played with and whom I might actually read accurately on day 1.


Yeah. THe 'proof' (talking about proof in a game like mafia smh) Is that he spends like most of the first post of the game talking about why oats is town and then in the very next paragraph says he is willing to lynch oates. It makes his town read disingenuous, and i struggle to find how a townie would be willing to lynch someone he spent so much effort establishing as town.

It doesn't make any sense. Hapa did not spend all of his first post calling oates town and then saying he could lynch oates.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 22 2013 00:45 GMT
#551
On June 22 2013 07:41 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 07:37 Ange777 wrote:
@marv:

Wouldn't a scum Obvious be more conscious about promoting activity and failing it himself as a scum player?


This would be logical yes, but I don't rely on mafia to carry through on their promises. Also, as far as I remember no-one else has pulled him up on this until I have so far - maybe he hopes it just looks nice at the time, at a time when he *is* actually making a couple of posts.

In Smurf Obvious posted nicely as mafia but as little as possible, whereas when Obvious is town he actively tries to solve the game.

I think I've talked myself into voting him, he's my best lead for now ^^

##Vote: Obvious


On the rare occasions marv and I agree it means caught scum or a mislynched blazinghand. Wonderful things either way.

##vote:Obviousone
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 22 2013 00:46 GMT
#552
On June 22 2013 07:50 Ange777 wrote:
@marv: I just feel like I would be more careful about making any promises as scum because people will remember them and hold me to account for them and the least I would want is stand out badly. Right now I'd put Obvious in the same categorie as the other lurkers.

@Sloosh:

What part of Obvious' entry made you suspicious?


Nah broken promise plus wanting to policy lynch his town read is not the same as other lurkers.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 22 2013 01:23 GMT
#554
On June 22 2013 10:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
guys. Yamato has no scum reads, he was super easily convinced about his strongest scumread being town. Within a period of 30 minutes. Then he fucks off again. He isnt scumhunting, he is throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.


and he didn't answer any of the questions we wanted answered last night. If we don;t lynch obvious i probably want to lynch yamato.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 22 2013 10:49 GMT
#575
Yeah, it's the weekend and I am at a LAN. So I'll play when I get home.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 22 2013 15:28 GMT
#611
So I am scummy because I don't give a shit about the game? like what the fuck? Obviously I care a great deal about the game through the amount of effort I have put in so far. I think hapa and yamato feel strange about me because happily i haven't yet been tunnelled stupidly and had to defend myself like the start of every game i have played in recent memory.

At the moment the glaring obvious scum is... obvious. (lol) He makes a shitty post, then fucks off and doesn't explain or do anything. In his last game I played with him he was town and when i accused him day one he went ballistic and OMGUS'd me for ever. this game he ignores me calling him out and then disappears after bitching about lukers.

Putting aside the shit hapa and marv say. Which is not even meta more a personality thing. Yamato bothers me. the way he goes about calling out scum reads is fucked up. He does these little soft pushes but doesn't really commit to any of them. But SEEMS decisive and confident when his actions prove he actually isn't.

Hapa has been wrong before and he could be wrong again and there are things about yamato that bother me despite hapa's reasons for town yamato.

All in all we should lynch Obvious though.

Sheep me plz
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 22 2013 15:42 GMT
#622
On June 23 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP comment on my case on Hapa kthxbye?


You should vote for obvious cause we aren't lynching hapa day one.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 22 2013 15:53 GMT
#632
On June 23 2013 00:42 yamato77 wrote:
My reads have been consistent the whole game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional, or simply can't read.

DP, your lack of giving a fuck about this game is exactly why I think you could be mafia. You haven't attempted to figure out anything in the game aside from at the very start, which is a poor way to play. It's easy to fake interest and involvement for a short period of time, but obviously your interest in this game has waned significantly over the course of the day, which is a trait I would associate with mafia, no matter how good he supposedly is.

Cora, you think I'm scum every game we play in. Take a step back, realize that I've been attempting to figure this game out with Hapa and Marv for a while, and go take a reread of the game where you don't assume that I'm mafia. I used to tunnel like you every game, but it gets you nowhere. What do you think about OO, Shaiopi, or Darthpunk?


What the fuck. If you don't think I have been trying to figure the game out you are either scum or retarded or both.As to my drop off inn activity. It's saturday. I was being social.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 22 2013 16:00 GMT
#644
On June 23 2013 00:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 00:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP comment on my case on Hapa kthxbye?


You should vote for obvious cause we aren't lynching hapa day one.


Hapa's been lynched day 1 before and he was mafia. That's a cop out excuse DP.


Hapa is not someone you lynch day one. Just like you. If he is scum it will be obvious later. It's not worth the risk of mislynching town hapa. I said all this before.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 22 2013 16:02 GMT
#648
On June 23 2013 00:55 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 00:53 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:42 yamato77 wrote:
My reads have been consistent the whole game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional, or simply can't read.

DP, your lack of giving a fuck about this game is exactly why I think you could be mafia. You haven't attempted to figure out anything in the game aside from at the very start, which is a poor way to play. It's easy to fake interest and involvement for a short period of time, but obviously your interest in this game has waned significantly over the course of the day, which is a trait I would associate with mafia, no matter how good he supposedly is.

Cora, you think I'm scum every game we play in. Take a step back, realize that I've been attempting to figure this game out with Hapa and Marv for a while, and go take a reread of the game where you don't assume that I'm mafia. I used to tunnel like you every game, but it gets you nowhere. What do you think about OO, Shaiopi, or Darthpunk?


What the fuck. If you don't think I have been trying to figure the game out you are either scum or retarded or both.As to my drop off inn activity. It's saturday. I was being social.


Your reads are essentially the same as they were over 24 hours ago and you basically refuse to talk about anything else. No, you aren't involved in figuring out the game.


Yeah. Obvious hasn;t been around for 24 hours. some times it just simple. This is one of those times. I like to focus on one thing at a time. Ask marv.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 22 2013 16:05 GMT
#653
On June 23 2013 01:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
DO YOU REMEMBER QUICK LYNCH SCUM GF HAPA DP?


YEAH BUT HAPA WAS PLAYING LIKE SHIT THAT GAME. he isn't this time.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 22 2013 16:09 GMT
#663
On June 23 2013 01:03 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:00 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:43 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP comment on my case on Hapa kthxbye?


You should vote for obvious cause we aren't lynching hapa day one.


Hapa's been lynched day 1 before and he was mafia. That's a cop out excuse DP.


Hapa is not someone you lynch day one. Just like you. If he is scum it will be obvious later. It's not worth the risk of mislynching town hapa. I said all this before.


Yes, but you're wrong. No-one is unlynchable day 1. The reason it's a particularly bad idea to lynch me in particular day 1 is because my style swings around a lot so it's hard to get an accurate read. Hapa is actually a paragon of consistency.

Why don't you just comment on the case?


I don't agree. Hapa is rarely a good lynch day one.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 22 2013 16:13 GMT
#667
On June 23 2013 01:08 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:02 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:55 yamato77 wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:53 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:42 yamato77 wrote:
My reads have been consistent the whole game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional, or simply can't read.

DP, your lack of giving a fuck about this game is exactly why I think you could be mafia. You haven't attempted to figure out anything in the game aside from at the very start, which is a poor way to play. It's easy to fake interest and involvement for a short period of time, but obviously your interest in this game has waned significantly over the course of the day, which is a trait I would associate with mafia, no matter how good he supposedly is.

Cora, you think I'm scum every game we play in. Take a step back, realize that I've been attempting to figure this game out with Hapa and Marv for a while, and go take a reread of the game where you don't assume that I'm mafia. I used to tunnel like you every game, but it gets you nowhere. What do you think about OO, Shaiopi, or Darthpunk?


What the fuck. If you don't think I have been trying to figure the game out you are either scum or retarded or both.As to my drop off inn activity. It's saturday. I was being social.


Your reads are essentially the same as they were over 24 hours ago and you basically refuse to talk about anything else. No, you aren't involved in figuring out the game.


Yeah. Obvious hasn;t been around for 24 hours. some times it just simple. This is one of those times. I like to focus on one thing at a time. Ask marv.

Lazy DP is scum DP.


Don;t you even dare try and use meta on me. This heurisitic is fucking bullshit. But if you want to use it I suggest you pull some evidence from my previous games.

Hint: I can be and am lazy as both alignments.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 22 2013 16:18 GMT
#673
On June 23 2013 01:12 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:03 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:00 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:43 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP comment on my case on Hapa kthxbye?


You should vote for obvious cause we aren't lynching hapa day one.


Hapa's been lynched day 1 before and he was mafia. That's a cop out excuse DP.


Hapa is not someone you lynch day one. Just like you. If he is scum it will be obvious later. It's not worth the risk of mislynching town hapa. I said all this before.


Yes, but you're wrong. No-one is unlynchable day 1. The reason it's a particularly bad idea to lynch me in particular day 1 is because my style swings around a lot so it's hard to get an accurate read. Hapa is actually a paragon of consistency.

Why don't you just comment on the case?


I don't agree. Hapa is rarely a good lynch day one.


You're becoming an increasingly good lynch.


I didn't want to comment on the case because I didn't want to give a hapa lynch traction. I think it is a bad idea to lynch hapa day one and I want people to vote for obvious. Therefore I dismiss the case on hapa for now and draw focus back to the lynch I want.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 22 2013 16:20 GMT
#676
On June 23 2013 01:16 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:08 yamato77 wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:02 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:55 yamato77 wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:53 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:42 yamato77 wrote:
My reads have been consistent the whole game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional, or simply can't read.

DP, your lack of giving a fuck about this game is exactly why I think you could be mafia. You haven't attempted to figure out anything in the game aside from at the very start, which is a poor way to play. It's easy to fake interest and involvement for a short period of time, but obviously your interest in this game has waned significantly over the course of the day, which is a trait I would associate with mafia, no matter how good he supposedly is.

Cora, you think I'm scum every game we play in. Take a step back, realize that I've been attempting to figure this game out with Hapa and Marv for a while, and go take a reread of the game where you don't assume that I'm mafia. I used to tunnel like you every game, but it gets you nowhere. What do you think about OO, Shaiopi, or Darthpunk?


What the fuck. If you don't think I have been trying to figure the game out you are either scum or retarded or both.As to my drop off inn activity. It's saturday. I was being social.


Your reads are essentially the same as they were over 24 hours ago and you basically refuse to talk about anything else. No, you aren't involved in figuring out the game.


Yeah. Obvious hasn;t been around for 24 hours. some times it just simple. This is one of those times. I like to focus on one thing at a time. Ask marv.

Lazy DP is scum DP.


Don;t you even dare try and use meta on me. This heurisitic is fucking bullshit. But if you want to use it I suggest you pull some evidence from my previous games.

Hint: I can be and am lazy as both alignments.

Lol, you've said that line about everything you've done this game.

How are we supposed to arrive at any solid conclusion about your alignment based on meta when you apparently do everything as both alignments? Otherwise, we could just lynch you for being useless and scummy and be done with it.


You don't use meta.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 22 2013 16:21 GMT
#679
On June 23 2013 01:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##Unvote:
##Vote: DarthPunk


Now you are going to go and comment the case.


Fuck off rayn. I DO NOT WANT TO LYNCH HAPA. I WANT TO LYNCH OBVIOUS. and I am not going to be bullied into it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 22 2013 16:23 GMT
#682
On June 23 2013 01:20 marvellosity wrote:
I'm in rayn

##Unvote
##Vote: DarthPunk


Also Oats/yamato, whatever you two are doing it's not helpful. Here, Oats, I went into yamato's filter myself for you just so you can stop asking him the same thing over and over.

+ Show Spoiler +

On June 21 2013 14:29 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 14:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:24 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:22 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Yamato

We're at about ~5 pages of filter, so you should have enough information to carry this game. What are your thoughts on the players who have posted so far?

Coag and DP are the only people I'm actually worried about at this point.


Talk to me about DP a bit. It usually takes me a while to have a concrete read on him, so I'm surprised you have worries this early.

He just hasn't done anything that would make me swing either way about him. This continued angry-man act is a bit disconcerting.


On June 21 2013 14:32 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 14:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:29 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:24 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:22 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Yamato

We're at about ~5 pages of filter, so you should have enough information to carry this game. What are your thoughts on the players who have posted so far?

Coag and DP are the only people I'm actually worried about at this point.


Talk to me about DP a bit. It usually takes me a while to have a concrete read on him, so I'm surprised you have worries this early.

He just hasn't done anything that would make me swing either way about him. This continued angry-man act is a bit disconcerting.


So you are 'worried about me for no reason' and the only thing you mention is something which i have done consistently as both alignments since the beginning of time.

Why would you mention me at all if you actually had no reason for the read? And what about coag? What has coag done to make you worried?

It's precisely that neither of you have done anything particularly townish at all that worries me. It's obviously early, but I have quite a few soft town reads already.


On June 22 2013 17:31 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 17:21 Hapahauli wrote:
What about DP is cause for concern? I've seen you say that you "worry" about him a lot, but you've said virtually nothing specific about him.

Also,
Perhaps my phrasing has been poor this game, but being clear with how I feel about a particular player's posting when things are not as black and white as I'd like them to be is difficult. I think it's fairly obvious that I'm not particularly confident in any read.


So is this a pressure vote on me or are you reasonably confident I'm mafia?

On June 22 2013 17:13 yamato77 wrote:
My problem with you is that you seem afraid to call me mafia, like you're scared that I'll insta-tunnel you for it and get you lynched. This doesn't feel like the organic line of questioning I usually receive from town Hapa at all.


Question: when have I ever been afraid to call someone mafia when I'm mafia? >>

Do you think DP seems particularly interested in this game? I don't.

You being timid in a game is how you seem as mafia. I don't like that you seem sheepish with your timing of questioning me right after Oats and DP state their suspicion of me.


On June 23 2013 00:42 yamato77 wrote:
My reads have been consistent the whole game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional, or simply can't read.

DP, your lack of giving a fuck about this game is exactly why I think you could be mafia. You haven't attempted to figure out anything in the game aside from at the very start, which is a poor way to play. It's easy to fake interest and involvement for a short period of time, but obviously your interest in this game has waned significantly over the course of the day, which is a trait I would associate with mafia, no matter how good he supposedly is.

Cora, you think I'm scum every game we play in. Take a step back, realize that I've been attempting to figure this game out with Hapa and Marv for a while, and go take a reread of the game where you don't assume that I'm mafia. I used to tunnel like you every game, but it gets you nowhere. What do you think about OO, Shaiopi, or Darthpunk?


On June 23 2013 00:55 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 00:53 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:42 yamato77 wrote:
My reads have been consistent the whole game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional, or simply can't read.

DP, your lack of giving a fuck about this game is exactly why I think you could be mafia. You haven't attempted to figure out anything in the game aside from at the very start, which is a poor way to play. It's easy to fake interest and involvement for a short period of time, but obviously your interest in this game has waned significantly over the course of the day, which is a trait I would associate with mafia, no matter how good he supposedly is.

Cora, you think I'm scum every game we play in. Take a step back, realize that I've been attempting to figure this game out with Hapa and Marv for a while, and go take a reread of the game where you don't assume that I'm mafia. I used to tunnel like you every game, but it gets you nowhere. What do you think about OO, Shaiopi, or Darthpunk?


What the fuck. If you don't think I have been trying to figure the game out you are either scum or retarded or both.As to my drop off inn activity. It's saturday. I was being social.


Your reads are essentially the same as they were over 24 hours ago and you basically refuse to talk about anything else. No, you aren't involved in figuring out the game.



you sheeping yamato marv?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 22 2013 16:35 GMT
#689
On June 23 2013 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:18 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:12 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:03 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:00 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:43 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP comment on my case on Hapa kthxbye?


You should vote for obvious cause we aren't lynching hapa day one.


Hapa's been lynched day 1 before and he was mafia. That's a cop out excuse DP.


Hapa is not someone you lynch day one. Just like you. If he is scum it will be obvious later. It's not worth the risk of mislynching town hapa. I said all this before.


Yes, but you're wrong. No-one is unlynchable day 1. The reason it's a particularly bad idea to lynch me in particular day 1 is because my style swings around a lot so it's hard to get an accurate read. Hapa is actually a paragon of consistency.

Why don't you just comment on the case?


I don't agree. Hapa is rarely a good lynch day one.


You're becoming an increasingly good lynch.


I didn't want to comment on the case because I didn't want to give a hapa lynch traction. I think it is a bad idea to lynch hapa day one and I want people to vote for obvious. Therefore I dismiss the case on hapa for now and draw focus back to the lynch I want.


Do you think the case is bad or not?
If you think so why don't you de-bunk it? If you don't think so, why are you not taking account a possibility that Hapa is scum? Who is to say both OO and Hapa are not scum?

wtf is this? This is the reason i am probably be willing to kill you always. Like what you did when you claimed miller in last game we played and defended you claim besides doing stuff that actually matters (scumhunting). I don't know if you are just too arrogant or what is it, but seriously wtf? If you are town stop with that mentality and help us finding mafia.



You know what I think about your case? I think it was bad. I think it took you a long time to say not much about why hapa is scum and CERTAINLY nothing convincing enough to make me want to lynch hapa day one.

Like basically you are saying hapa didn't respond to a question and was vague about scum reads. Fine. That is not enough to lynch anyone. If your case had blown me away then I would be far more willing to (IMO) waste time talking about a hapa lynch over an obvious lynch. But it didn't so I wasn't.
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June 22 2013 16:38 GMT
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On June 23 2013 01:33 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 23 2013 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
So why do you think he downright refuses to talk about anything as scum?


Same question for town to you


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