GM stutters scum

GK isn't scum, not yet, not based on what we know. DONT lynch him for no reason

oats is illegible. if anyone else has a gun, shoot him-- he's a liability

Blazinghand

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June 11 2013 22:47 GMT

#678

hapa you should definitely have VA on your list in case you die tonight.

VA you're probably RBed, make sure to use your check just in case, go for someone who won't get shot or lynched in the next cycle

Blazinghand

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June 11 2013 22:48 GMT

#679

medic flip a coin, if heads save one of hapa/VA, if tails save a townread who's not them

Blazinghand

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June 11 2013 22:49 GMT

#682

btw my townread on hapa is strong but it's not "marv in les mafia" strong. the guy is extremely valuable to town though as town. as scum he's still VERY DANGEROUS though, don't let your guard down. the best way to deal with town marv is same as scum marv, have him contribute

Blazinghand

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June 11 2013 22:52 GMT

#687

goddamnit hapa

Blazinghand

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June 11 2013 23:21 GMT

#696

Okay, so personally I'd prefer if we shot GM tonight. I think he's more likely to flip scum, and I've seen stutters be reasonable despite slow starts. That being said, there are two big arguments for shooting stutters and GK. The first is "we need to lynch both stutters and GM, and one of them is talking so we might as well shoot the other" and if this is a reason for shooting stutters, that is to say, we're lynching him for sure, then fine. I think he'll shape up, though, so I'd rather we shoot GM.

GK on the other hand, people don't like his entrance into the thread. He does this all the time as town, he always has a slow start. I get that people want to policy him basically for not having read the thread, but he's a replacement in addition to being a slower player in general. I say we give him time.

In order of preference, basically

GM > Stutters > GK

Blazinghand

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June 11 2013 23:23 GMT

#697

and yeah don't shoot oats unless we plan on policying him. otherwise we just have to hope he's not scum i guess.

also, I'm upgrading my townread on hapa to super-mega-ultra town. there's 0 reason for him to pull that stunt as scum when given my play so far he could shoot me and when I flip town say "bah, he had it coming" and everyone would nod along. in fact, hapa, you're probably dead tonight as a result of looking so town.

Blazinghand

United States25558 Posts

June 11 2013 23:25 GMT

#699

Like i see the argument for doing it, if GK is gonna play like this all game, it's better to shoot him than lynch him since lynching a complete lurker with no reads doesn't generate great discussion (contrast lynching gravity man, which would really make the thread interesting). The ONLY problem with a GM shot is that GM is also a great lynch.

Blazinghand

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June 11 2013 23:28 GMT

#702

but just regarding GK's slow start. I've said it once (link) and I'll say it again (link) but you got to give the man time to build up momentum.

though i guess i can't exactly call myself a GK meta expert after Les Mafia

Blazinghand

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June 11 2013 23:31 GMT

#703

On June 12 2013 08:26 VayneAuthority wrote:

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idk about that some of the top tier players on the site I come from pull that shit all the time since just as you described people believe its "super-town" to fake stuff like that and a lot of worse players will fall for it and spill their guts as scum in their haste to not get lynched/shot. If hapa is as good as you claim then I don't see how that is alignment indicative.

It's certainly POSSIBLE hapa is scum, but like, look at it this way: he'd have gotten like zero flak for actually shooting me right there. why not shoot me? why fake-shoot me and watch me scramble, then say "ah hah, this was townie of BH?"

Like, obviously he can imitate that as scum, but he had nothing to lose and everything to gain from just shooting me and being like "wow BH i can't believe you trolled this hard as town" or something. you guys would have drank that shit up. If he is scum he's playing it weird. He's not confirmed town or anything but this (plus the mindset thing regarding the 3p stuff) just further solidifies my opinion that hapa is town.

Blazinghand

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June 12 2013 01:01 GMT

#715

but given the good chance of you dying you really should

Blazinghand

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June 12 2013 01:17 GMT

#719

On June 12 2013 10:09 GravityMan wrote:

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This concerns me greatly.
What reasoning do you speak of Stutters? This Hapahauli's reasoning was minimal at best and falsified at worst.

GM is wrong but yeah stutters it would be nice to hear specifically what you thought was good/bad

Blazinghand

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June 12 2013 01:25 GMT

#721

hapahauli's reasoning was fine. I agree with it (or at least the part where you're asking weird questions of me and making a show of participating without hunting scum). The issue is that you can't just say "GM shoudl be shot huehuehue hapa is right" and not explain what you agree/disagree with.

Your point that stutter's post is bad/unhelpful/scummy is correct. Your idea that you shouldn't be shot tonight is not.

also the idea that i haven't offered _any_ reason to _many_ of my statements _all_ game is interesting. It's like you want to say I never offer reasoning but you know that's literally false so you try to make some kind of half-assed point. get your shit together GM

Blazinghand

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June 12 2013 01:47 GMT

#726

wow i actually personally dislike GM now

Blazinghand

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June 12 2013 01:49 GMT

#729

On June 12 2013 10:48 Hapahauli wrote:

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It's funny, because you two post so similarly that I confuse you all the time >>

._.

Blazinghand

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June 12 2013 01:54 GMT

#733

hapa it is time to let out your true shenannies. shoot someone. to thine own self be true

Blazinghand

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June 12 2013 01:55 GMT

#736

does anyone remember playing like SNES jrpg roms that were horribly translated and everyone was speaking in thous and thys and stuff? or is that just me