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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
June 12 2013 17:48 GMT
#961
Look even oats knows I'm town.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 12 2013 17:50 GMT
#962
On June 13 2013 02:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Look even oats knows I'm town.

I guess my read on you is a ringing endorsement huh.
No gg, No skill.
GravityMan
Profile Joined June 2013
Guyana (French)188 Posts
June 12 2013 17:50 GMT
#963
On June 13 2013 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 02:47 GravityMan wrote:
On June 13 2013 02:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
if bh gets lynched. #worsttown2013

Worse than the Les Mafia town for the same thing?
If he's town and performs adequately I promise I will unvote him.

DP was 3p in les. Doesnt count.

DP wasn't the only one to vote BH in Les, was he?

Note BH already refusing. This feels EXACTLY like Carnival Cruise. Oats you were there. Remember how BH and I fought? Explain to me how this is different.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3Pkpp49aMk
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
June 12 2013 17:51 GMT
#964
On June 13 2013 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 02:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Look even oats knows I'm town.

I guess my read on you is a ringing endorsement huh.


I'll take what i can get :3

seriously though if you guys decide to push a policy lynch me because you don't like my style (or in this case, pretend to don't like my style) then that does nothing to help town
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 12 2013 17:51 GMT
#965
I dont actually remember.
Refresh my memory please.
No gg, No skill.
GravityMan
Profile Joined June 2013
Guyana (French)188 Posts
June 12 2013 17:52 GMT
#966
On June 13 2013 02:51 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 13 2013 02:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Look even oats knows I'm town.

I guess my read on you is a ringing endorsement huh.


I'll take what i can get :3

seriously though if you guys decide to push a policy lynch me because you don't like my style (or in this case, pretend to don't like my style) then that does nothing to help town

Haha you still don't get it, doyou.
It has nothing to do with your style or policy.
You're doing nothing.
You're scum.
That's why you're getting lynched.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3Pkpp49aMk
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
June 12 2013 17:52 GMT
#967
On June 13 2013 02:50 GravityMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 13 2013 02:47 GravityMan wrote:
On June 13 2013 02:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
if bh gets lynched. #worsttown2013

Worse than the Les Mafia town for the same thing?
If he's town and performs adequately I promise I will unvote him.

DP was 3p in les. Doesnt count.

DP wasn't the only one to vote BH in Les, was he?

Note BH already refusing. This feels EXACTLY like Carnival Cruise. Oats you were there. Remember how BH and I fought? Explain to me how this is different.


oh what's this, a meta case with no comparison to a town game, quotes, or links, despite my super well documented play history? kk
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
GravityMan
Profile Joined June 2013
Guyana (French)188 Posts
June 12 2013 17:55 GMT
#968
On June 13 2013 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont actually remember.
Refresh my memory please.

No. I've already relied on meta too much; it is not how I wanted to play this game. You can have a look yourself if you actually think BH might be scum; if he's already convinced you then don't bother. Your call.
I think at this point I'd honestly be content to be shot by VA if people are unclear about me by the end of the day, if it means that you guys will believe what I have said and lynch BH.

Going to go have some lunch. I'll be around later.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3Pkpp49aMk
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 12 2013 17:56 GMT
#969
Um what, I wanna know your view because it affects my read on you.

Also martyring not cool yo.
No gg, No skill.
GravityMan
Profile Joined June 2013
Guyana (French)188 Posts
June 12 2013 17:57 GMT
#970
On June 13 2013 02:52 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 02:50 GravityMan wrote:
On June 13 2013 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 13 2013 02:47 GravityMan wrote:
On June 13 2013 02:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
if bh gets lynched. #worsttown2013

Worse than the Les Mafia town for the same thing?
If he's town and performs adequately I promise I will unvote him.

DP was 3p in les. Doesnt count.

DP wasn't the only one to vote BH in Les, was he?

Note BH already refusing. This feels EXACTLY like Carnival Cruise. Oats you were there. Remember how BH and I fought? Explain to me how this is different.


oh what's this, a meta case with no comparison to a town game, quotes, or links, despite my super well documented play history? kk

Final thing I will say before I go.
He is relying on the fact now that I have actively stated I will not dive through meta to form a case. I have seen town BH bring up his OWN examples of meta to prove other people wrong in cases like this. He would rather use his own self-confidence and bluffing tactics to get himself through this than very simply prove me wrong, were it possible to do so. He has no desire to display any useful information for the town to read.

Burn him with cleansing fire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3Pkpp49aMk
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
June 12 2013 17:57 GMT
#971
On June 13 2013 02:55 GravityMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont actually remember.
Refresh my memory please.

No. I've already relied on meta too much; it is not how I wanted to play this game. You can have a look yourself if you actually think BH might be scum; if he's already convinced you then don't bother. Your call.
I think at this point I'd honestly be content to be shot by VA if people are unclear about me by the end of the day, if it means that you guys will believe what I have said and lynch BH.

Going to go have some lunch. I'll be around later.


the point isn't that oats thinks you're lying (though perhaps he does), but rather, even if your ideas are genuine that doesn't mean you're RIGHT. there's no meta case to make against me. you can't just say the word "meta" and have that be a case. As a guy who writes a lot of meta cases, let me tell you: it's hard work. it requires effort to show what a player's meta is like both as scum and as town and compare that to the current game. you have not done this. If you're wondering why the only player you've "convinced" is VA it's because you haven't put in the work to actually convince anyone.

And honestly, if you are in fact town I'd like it if you DID check out my meta. You'd realize I'm town this game and stop pushing me.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
June 12 2013 17:58 GMT
#972
I know you guys are in the heat of the game, but please make sure you are still being courteous to your fellow players. We want an enjoyable experience for everyone and we don't want anyone to get hurt. Nothing's been said that has crossed the line, but a couple of you have gotten close (and I've pm'd them) and I don't want to see it happen again.

Respect the game and respect your fellow competitors.

Thanks,
Corazón
Grubby's #1 Fan
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
June 12 2013 17:58 GMT
#973
On June 13 2013 02:57 GravityMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 02:52 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 13 2013 02:50 GravityMan wrote:
On June 13 2013 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 13 2013 02:47 GravityMan wrote:
On June 13 2013 02:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
if bh gets lynched. #worsttown2013

Worse than the Les Mafia town for the same thing?
If he's town and performs adequately I promise I will unvote him.

DP was 3p in les. Doesnt count.

DP wasn't the only one to vote BH in Les, was he?

Note BH already refusing. This feels EXACTLY like Carnival Cruise. Oats you were there. Remember how BH and I fought? Explain to me how this is different.


oh what's this, a meta case with no comparison to a town game, quotes, or links, despite my super well documented play history? kk

Final thing I will say before I go.
He is relying on the fact now that I have actively stated I will not dive through meta to form a case. I have seen town BH bring up his OWN examples of meta to prove other people wrong in cases like this. He would rather use his own self-confidence and bluffing tactics to get himself through this than very simply prove me wrong, were it possible to do so. He has no desire to display any useful information for the town to read.

Burn him with cleansing fire.


dude that paragraph is literally another meta statement with no backup / evidence WHILE SAYING YOU WONT DO META

come on, just put in the work! or are you worried about what you'll find?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 12 2013 17:59 GMT
#974
whoop didnt get pmed.
im so good at not crossing the line man.
No gg, No skill.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 12 2013 18:00 GMT
#975
I'm going to let you kids duke it out and do me some good old fashioned filter diving while my e-smoke is charging (these things kick ass btw).
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 12 2013 18:01 GMT
#976
ok im actually going to sleep now. Thanks for the distraction.
No gg, No skill.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
June 12 2013 18:02 GMT
#977
I'd also like to bring your attention to this:


This also means you should condense your posts when possible. 15 one-liners in 30 minutes is unacceptable.


Keep this in mind when posting.
Grubby's #1 Fan
GravityMan
Profile Joined June 2013
Guyana (French)188 Posts
June 12 2013 18:02 GMT
#978
On June 13 2013 02:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Um what, I wanna know your view because it affects my read on you.

Also martyring not cool yo.

If people are going to lynch me anyway then I'd rather be shot so you can instead lynch BH. If people are absolutely confused as to why I am pushing BH and still have any lingering doubt that I am not town because of my earlier smurfing.

Call it a last resort, but until then BH is the wagon of justice. Hop aboard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3Pkpp49aMk
GravityMan
Profile Joined June 2013
Guyana (French)188 Posts
June 12 2013 18:06 GMT
#979
On June 13 2013 02:57 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 02:55 GravityMan wrote:
On June 13 2013 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont actually remember.
Refresh my memory please.

No. I've already relied on meta too much; it is not how I wanted to play this game. You can have a look yourself if you actually think BH might be scum; if he's already convinced you then don't bother. Your call.
I think at this point I'd honestly be content to be shot by VA if people are unclear about me by the end of the day, if it means that you guys will believe what I have said and lynch BH.

Going to go have some lunch. I'll be around later.


the point isn't that oats thinks you're lying (though perhaps he does), but rather, even if your ideas are genuine that doesn't mean you're RIGHT. there's no meta case to make against me. you can't just say the word "meta" and have that be a case. As a guy who writes a lot of meta cases, let me tell you: it's hard work. it requires effort to show what a player's meta is like both as scum and as town and compare that to the current game. you have not done this. If you're wondering why the only player you've "convinced" is VA it's because you haven't put in the work to actually convince anyone.

And honestly, if you are in fact town I'd like it if you DID check out my meta. You'd realize I'm town this game and stop pushing me.

I have put in the work. People are ignoring it.
I believe the man with Blazing hands to be scum.

He is far too content to take on those who are unlikely to be able to accuse him in return.

The displays of his ego given so far would seemingly belie that the mayoral campaign should have been perfect for him yet he is quick to back down. His reasoning is the same 'survival instinct' that this VayneAuthority seems to give yet different. I believe that Blazinghand is in actuality worried here about a power grab being seen as a scum trait, much as I was worried about you in the early game.

His relentless attack of the master of Oats seems to ebb and flow with the tide of the thread; that is, he only attempts to waste the town's time by attacking him and causing chaos (as he knows the Oats will react) when it is convenient for scum. Any time a clear mislynch target is not in the crosshairs of the town, jampidampi as example, he is content with thread direction; the exception to this being his quick flip in opinion as jampidampi returned to the thread.

He has had zero useful contribution to the thread beyond what I have outlined above. If he has other suspects in this game I am not sure as to whom they might be. On this he promised more activity tomorrow, however.
I would like to make it known that initially I thought he might be a member of the town until he continued to post and I realized how his perception of himself (or at the very least, the mask he wears so that people perceive as an egotistical being) affects his play.


Some things to note:
I am unconvinced in this Blazinghand's act while seemingly at death's door. I feel I am able to read this Hapahauli quite well at this point in the game, and to shoot someone without any warning whatsoever is not a very mayorly thing to do. The false shot was extremely obvious to me, though admittedly an interesting gambit. However, if the false shot was obvious to me, could it not also have been obvious to a player such as this Blazinghand who could then act in the most town-aligned way possible before his death? He has nothing to lose at this point even if the shot were real because were he actually shot and his aligned were revealed to be red, the players in this game would be likely to ignore his final posts as they could be likened to poisoned wine in two goblets. He still gives no reasoning for his reads even when asked yet people conveniently ignore this.

Blazinghand is content to have me destroyed, of course, but an interesting fact to point out is this Blazinghand's mention that he would rather have me hang from a tree than simply be shot with a bullet, thus wasting one of any town's strongest tools, and an entire day on the wrong target. Yes, the mayor bullet is a strong tool as well, and any member of the mafia would enjoying obtaining it, though perhaps the mafia are content to have it wasted here instead? I am unsure.


On June 12 2013 10:39 GravityMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 10:25 Blazinghand wrote:
hapahauli's reasoning was fine. I agree with it (or at least the part where you're asking weird questions of me and making a show of participating without hunting scum). The issue is that you can't just say "GM shoudl be shot huehuehue hapa is right" and not explain what you agree/disagree with.

Your point that stutter's post is bad/unhelpful/scummy is correct. Your idea that you shouldn't be shot tonight is not.

also the idea that i haven't offered _any_ reason to _many_ of my statements _all_ game is interesting. It's like you want to say I never offer reasoning but you know that's literally false so you try to make some kind of half-assed point. get your shit together GM

Let me rephrase it then.
You fail to offer sufficient reasoning to a great deal of strong stances that you take until badgered endlessly. I believe you promised reasoning as to why I should be shot or at the very least you told this Hapahauli that you'd be looking into my filter.

Lack of a better shot is not a reason to shoot me, and once again, I have shown how Hapahauli's reasoning as to why I appear scummy is false. If you do not like the questions I was asking you in order to divine your alignment, then, I believe the colloquial phrase is: "tough shit?" It certainly made it easier for me to determine how it is you play and how your perceived view of yourself influences your playstyle.

There is yet to be postulated one concrete objective reason as to why I am scummy. By anyone. Saying that I have not contributed is purely subjective as I believe I have and again, I have shown as such in previous posts.


Sorry for the spam Corazon. Guess our dreams technically came true, btw, amirite?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3Pkpp49aMk
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 12 2013 18:09 GMT
#980
wat dreams?
I come in for the scraps
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