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What makes no sense to me now is how there are only two votes cast and GoodKarma is going to be lynched.
Clearly if it walks like a scum, talks like a scum, and multiple people suspect him like a scum....
BH is still just creating shit about him and Oats.
All he does is counter-accuse people who 'dare' accuse him of being scum because he knows he can get away with it.
He's provided no evidence as to why he thinks I'm scum. STILL.
I have no idea why people are still hesitating on this.
Meta-analysis would be SO GOOD here but I promised myself I wouldn't. Someone else could take a crack at it though if they wanted. It's pretty obvious.
BH you must be absolutely furious that I'm going to get you lynched today, but 'jubs gonna jub,' amirite?
Now I'm supposed to respond to Axle 'cause he's been asking me for a while so let me get to that, and then I'm around for discussion and such.
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Blazinghand
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On June 13 2013 01:56 GravityMan wrote:
Meta-analysis would be SO GOOD here but I promised myself I wouldn't. Someone else could take a crack at it though if they wanted. It's pretty obvious.
people keep on saying this like there's some meta case to be written but there really isn't.
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On June 12 2013 14:19 AxleGreaser wrote:Grav man, a number of pages back I posted this to you (before you WoS'd hi) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18868046Even though your posting style has now changed considerably. I am still interested in understanding what the purpose of the questions in that post was. There were rather lot of questions in the post. I am having difficulty deciding which mindset would want to post those and why. I am aware as you already said here why you say you asked them: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18860286Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 08:02 GravityMan wrote:On June 11 2013 08:00 Hapahauli wrote:On June 11 2013 06:07 GravityMan wrote:
Yes, that would be the post, thank you.
While you are at it, Blazinghand, are you the type to back down when admonished?
Does this Hapahaulli play the role of 'thread police' often? Do you think that this Hapahauli is personally insulted by your play or shamed by it? He certainly does not seem to me ceasing communication. Like none of this has to do anything with scumhunting. BH thinks I'm town - why does it matter what his feelings about my play are? As I am not delving into past games to determine alignment, for players I may be having trouble understanding it suits me to attempt to figure out what each player is thinking, capable of, and even feeling in order to determine a specific mindset. If you find that irrelevant that is your prerogative, however I do not deem it so. One thing I cant marry with your statement of why that is that you did not follow those up? Since you posted that, you have again pursued BH, but without answers to the earlier questions. Why if they were GM/WoS: "In what way do you find my questions irrelevant? I am confused." didnt you seek answers. I can see one problem there were so many question in the post i doubt anyone would answer them all. So why ask them?
Those questions were asked because I know how BH's ingame ego works and I was trying to find a way to show it to the thread, as can be seen in my written case against him. BH does not back down when dealing with anyone he feels is less skilled than him as can be seen by his constant tunneling of both me and Oats this game, and the way he talks to VA early. He is completely different when talking with Hapa and I wanted to make this evident; it is not a particularly towny way to play---completely deriding everyone's activity and efforts aside from one person. And what do you know, now that said person is dead there is absolutely no one to 'reign him in,' so he can act all troll-BH as he pleases, shit up the thread, offer no explanations for his reads and no one is around to scold him for it or make him stop that he will respond to. I asked those questions earlier as a way for me to logically come to this point while still in the GM persona without using meta to prove it. Difficult, time consuming, and artificially restraining myself I know, but it is how I resolved to play this specific game.
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On June 13 2013 01:59 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 01:56 GravityMan wrote:
Meta-analysis would be SO GOOD here but I promised myself I wouldn't. Someone else could take a crack at it though if they wanted. It's pretty obvious. people keep on saying this like there's some meta case to be written but there really isn't.
I'll show you in the postgame, k bb?
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I helped this many.
Since you claimed cop d1, you've:
1. tried to lynch BH for a "scumslip"
2. sheeped Hapa onto Jampi
3. said you wanted to shoot Syl/Myself with no reasoning
4. changed to Gravity, BH, or GK because "one of the afks had to be scum" despite that I was far more inactive than GM or BH.
5. obviously lied about a cop check, said I failed your test yet haven't explained why
6. Tried to get focus away from BH/Oats/GM despite GM and BH being among your recent people you would kill.
Literally the only reason I'm not trying to lynch you right now is that you claimed cop.
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Blazinghand
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On June 13 2013 02:13 Stutters695 wrote:I helped this many. Since you claimed cop d1, you've: 1. tried to lynch BH for a "scumslip" 2. sheeped Hapa onto Jampi 3. said you wanted to shoot Syl/Myself with no reasoning 4. changed to Gravity, BH, or GK because "one of the afks had to be scum" despite that I was far more inactive than GM or BH. 5. obviously lied about a cop check, said I failed your test yet haven't explained why 6. Tried to get focus away from BH/Oats/GM despite GM and BH being among your recent people you would kill. Literally the only reason I'm not trying to lynch you right now is that you claimed cop.
this is absolutely spot on
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Blazinghand
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no lynching or shooting stutters today
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On June 13 2013 01:56 GravityMan wrote:
What makes no sense to me now is how there are only two votes cast and GoodKarma is going to be lynched.
Clearly if it walks like a scum, talks like a scum, and multiple people suspect him like a scum....
BH is still just creating shit about him and Oats.
All he does is counter-accuse people who 'dare' accuse him of being scum because he knows he can get away with it.
He's provided no evidence as to why he thinks I'm scum. STILL.
I have no idea why people are still hesitating on this.
Meta-analysis would be SO GOOD here but I promised myself I wouldn't. Someone else could take a crack at it though if they wanted. It's pretty obvious.
BH you must be absolutely furious that I'm going to get you lynched today, but 'jubs gonna jub,' amirite?
Now I'm supposed to respond to Axle 'cause he's been asking me for a while so let me get to that, and then I'm around for discussion and such.
I'm too lazy to go dive his games, how about you post the case?
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On June 13 2013 02:15 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 01:56 GravityMan wrote:
What makes no sense to me now is how there are only two votes cast and GoodKarma is going to be lynched.
Clearly if it walks like a scum, talks like a scum, and multiple people suspect him like a scum....
BH is still just creating shit about him and Oats.
All he does is counter-accuse people who 'dare' accuse him of being scum because he knows he can get away with it.
He's provided no evidence as to why he thinks I'm scum. STILL.
I have no idea why people are still hesitating on this.
Meta-analysis would be SO GOOD here but I promised myself I wouldn't. Someone else could take a crack at it though if they wanted. It's pretty obvious.
BH you must be absolutely furious that I'm going to get you lynched today, but 'jubs gonna jub,' amirite?
Now I'm supposed to respond to Axle 'cause he's been asking me for a while so let me get to that, and then I'm around for discussion and such. I'm too lazy to go dive his games, how about you post the case?
if you open my profile i list all my games as well as what alignment i was in, how I died, and whether i won or lost! it's color coded and everything. very easy to make a meta case on me if there's one to be made!
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On June 13 2013 02:19 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 02:15 Stutters695 wrote:On June 13 2013 01:56 GravityMan wrote:
What makes no sense to me now is how there are only two votes cast and GoodKarma is going to be lynched.
Clearly if it walks like a scum, talks like a scum, and multiple people suspect him like a scum....
BH is still just creating shit about him and Oats.
All he does is counter-accuse people who 'dare' accuse him of being scum because he knows he can get away with it.
He's provided no evidence as to why he thinks I'm scum. STILL.
I have no idea why people are still hesitating on this.
Meta-analysis would be SO GOOD here but I promised myself I wouldn't. Someone else could take a crack at it though if they wanted. It's pretty obvious.
BH you must be absolutely furious that I'm going to get you lynched today, but 'jubs gonna jub,' amirite?
Now I'm supposed to respond to Axle 'cause he's been asking me for a while so let me get to that, and then I'm around for discussion and such. I'm too lazy to go dive his games, how about you post the case? if you open my profile i list all my games as well as what alignment i was in, how I died, and whether i won or lost! it's color coded and everything. very easy to make a meta case on me if there's one to be made!
Thanks dawg. Is there a case to be made?
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On June 13 2013 02:13 Stutters695 wrote:I helped this many. Since you claimed cop d1, you've: 1. tried to lynch BH for a "scumslip" 2. sheeped Hapa onto Jampi 3. said you wanted to shoot Syl/Myself with no reasoning 4. changed to Gravity, BH, or GK because "one of the afks had to be scum" despite that I was far more inactive than GM or BH. 5. obviously lied about a cop check, said I failed your test yet haven't explained why 6. Tried to get focus away from BH/Oats/GM despite GM and BH being among your recent people you would kill. Literally the only reason I'm not trying to lynch you right now is that you claimed cop.
So you point me to your useless filter? there's nothing worthwhile to look at there. FYI shitty town play led to my cop claim and I dont see how anything you listed is bad, I've covered pretty much everything to generate discussion. Want to explain why you are so angry in this game compared to other games ive played with you where you were town?
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Blazinghand
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On June 13 2013 02:26 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 02:19 Blazinghand wrote:On June 13 2013 02:15 Stutters695 wrote:On June 13 2013 01:56 GravityMan wrote:
What makes no sense to me now is how there are only two votes cast and GoodKarma is going to be lynched.
Clearly if it walks like a scum, talks like a scum, and multiple people suspect him like a scum....
BH is still just creating shit about him and Oats.
All he does is counter-accuse people who 'dare' accuse him of being scum because he knows he can get away with it.
He's provided no evidence as to why he thinks I'm scum. STILL.
I have no idea why people are still hesitating on this.
Meta-analysis would be SO GOOD here but I promised myself I wouldn't. Someone else could take a crack at it though if they wanted. It's pretty obvious.
BH you must be absolutely furious that I'm going to get you lynched today, but 'jubs gonna jub,' amirite?
Now I'm supposed to respond to Axle 'cause he's been asking me for a while so let me get to that, and then I'm around for discussion and such. I'm too lazy to go dive his games, how about you post the case? if you open my profile i list all my games as well as what alignment i was in, how I died, and whether i won or lost! it's color coded and everything. very easy to make a meta case on me if there's one to be made! Thanks dawg. Is there a case to be made?
I do not believe there is a meta case to be made against me. That being said, I feel it's the responsibility of those who keep on saying "BH is playing to his scum meta" to demonstrate that such is the case. It's super easy for them to do so, i'll even quote my profile here in a spoiler to make it EVEN EASIER for them to find all my scum and town games. I double dawg dare them.
+ Show Spoiler +
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Why are you so angry Vayne.
You claimed cause you caused everyone to think you were scum. Thats the only reason. If you keep blaming shit town, you will never get any better.
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On June 13 2013 02:15 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 02:13 Stutters695 wrote:I helped this many. Since you claimed cop d1, you've: 1. tried to lynch BH for a "scumslip" 2. sheeped Hapa onto Jampi 3. said you wanted to shoot Syl/Myself with no reasoning 4. changed to Gravity, BH, or GK because "one of the afks had to be scum" despite that I was far more inactive than GM or BH. 5. obviously lied about a cop check, said I failed your test yet haven't explained why 6. Tried to get focus away from BH/Oats/GM despite GM and BH being among your recent people you would kill. Literally the only reason I'm not trying to lynch you right now is that you claimed cop. this is absolutely spot on
I'm reluctant to agree but there is one thing in there that does bother me, and it's the lack of explanation for what exactly you were trying to get out of Stutters. Care to explain so we can get the focus back where it needs to be?
What exactly is going to take for me to get people to vote BH with me? And don't say a meta case because there is enough in this game to show he is scum, people are just wilfully ignoring me, JUST for a change.
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On June 13 2013 02:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why are you so angry Vayne.
You claimed cause you caused everyone to think you were scum. Thats the only reason. If you keep blaming shit town, you will never get any better.
This.
Oats y u no vote BH?
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On June 13 2013 02:30 GravityMan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 02:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why are you so angry Vayne.
You claimed cause you caused everyone to think you were scum. Thats the only reason. If you keep blaming shit town, you will never get any better.
This. Oats y u no vote BH?
Despite our mutual antagonism, in our own special way oats and I have figured out each other are town.
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On June 13 2013 02:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why are you so angry Vayne.
You claimed cause you caused everyone to think you were scum. Thats the only reason. If you keep blaming shit town, you will never get any better.
who's angry? You guys are bad and I pointed it out. Dont be mad nerd. Not my fault some one makes a shitty case and the lurkers gobble it up. I will never take responsibility for this fail town.
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Blazinghand
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On June 13 2013 02:32 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 02:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why are you so angry Vayne.
You claimed cause you caused everyone to think you were scum. Thats the only reason. If you keep blaming shit town, you will never get any better.
who's angry? You guys are bad and I pointed it out. Dont be mad nerd. Not my fault some one makes a shitty case and the lurkers gobble it up. I will never take responsibility for this fail town.
many years of dota experience have made me very good at telling when people are mad.
you sir are mad
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On June 13 2013 02:32 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 02:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why are you so angry Vayne.
You claimed cause you caused everyone to think you were scum. Thats the only reason. If you keep blaming shit town, you will never get any better.
who's angry? You guys are bad and I pointed it out. Dont be mad nerd. Not my fault some one makes a shitty case and the lurkers gobble it up. I will never take responsibility for this fail town.
Good mayor right here.
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