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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
Sylencia - I queried you earlier and received no response. AxleGreaser - I thoroughly enjoy our intercourse and await your return so that we may converse more. Stutters - Your contribution to this game has been severely lacking in my opinion, and there is a great deal for you to comment on. You may choose the topic, however I expect something with weight to it. | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
On June 11 2013 05:37 Blazinghand wrote: hey looks like people have finally realized VA is a terrible candidate for mayor! :D I don't remember Shiao's meta. That being said he's put himself "out there" and although it's for silly reasons it makes more sense for a town player to do this than for a scum player to draw extra attention to himself. He's not qualified to be mayor because he's not you me or VA, I don't remember him making big plays. the only advantages to a guy like shiao being mayor is that it gives scum a harder decision of who to shoot at night. I mean also he's probably not scum so I prefer him over a rando, but there you have it. If I can't see you or VA stepping to the role, I'm in for it, since my usual tactics work infinitely better with twice the votes to back them up, but without the D1 "pick the lynch" power it's just not as enticing. As for VA, I have been nothing but impressed by his play that I've seen. He's been a capable scumhunter, and he utterly hoodwinked me in Les Mafia. Whereas most of the player list is cluttered with jubjubs and followers (if you're reading this, I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about the other guys), VA is smart. He's not a veteran in terms of games played but for his excellent play in my interactions with him I consider him a vet. That being said, the guy DID utterly hoodwink me, which means the fact that I have a townread on him is meaningless. I can't catch him when he's scum-- or at least, not yet. Anyone that good I'd keep an eye on-- but if he's town, he can use the power wisely. Given my strong townread on hapa though I see no reason to entrust VA with the power. Oh man with hands and mouth of fire, I believe there are unanswered queries for you in my filter that you had informed me (or someone named granny man?) that you would be responding to. I believe your words were: "I'll get right on it?" | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
While you are at it, Blazinghand, are you the type to back down when admonished? Does this Hapahaulli play the role of 'thread police' often? | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
On June 11 2013 06:08 Blazinghand wrote: No I usually don't back down when admonished. I don't remember if hapa plays the 'thread police' very often but he seems unusually butthurt this game so just be nice to him. Interesting. This term 'butthurt' is new to me. Let me sync up with an online database. Butthurt: An inappropriately strong negative emotional response from a perceived personal insult. Characterized by strong feelings of shame. Frequently associated with a cessation of communication and overt hostility towards the "aggressor." Adam got butthurt when Mike stole his bitch. Do you think that this Hapahauli is personally insulted by your play or shamed by it? He certainly does not seem to me ceasing communication. As far as being nice is concerned, my AI did not include high levels of emotional response. I suppose I have behaved thus far in a way one might deem as 'being nice,' yet I do not know if I have the capability to cause one to be 'butthurt.' | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
On June 11 2013 06:16 Blazinghand wrote: Yeah so basically I initially said this: because coming into this blind I percieved 3 players who I've played with before who are good. Me, hapa, Vayne. The initial statement was "i'd only consider these 3" since they're the only qualified ones. Hapa and me for obvious reasons, vayne because he schooled me last game. Now, I don't know if i came off correctly when I was trying to explain why i was voting hapa and vayne, but basically i was saying "vayne is qualified, but have a townread on hapa". the idea is that i think (or thought, at the time ) of vayne as a good player based on my previous play. As a scum player he looked a lot like a town player, and yeah obviously that wasn't a town game but a guy that smart has gotta make a good town player, right? well apparently not, he claimed cop D1. so yeah, vote hapa I am not sure your answer is sufficient. You said you were impressed by his play. Are you referring to the single game in which he 'hoodwinked' you as scum? Were there not other games in which he played with you? How did he perform in those games? You call him a veteran in terms of play. I have seen what a 'veteran' such as this Hapahauli is capable of and this VayneAuthority has shown nothing by comparison. Given the way you view yourself as similar to this 'veteran' status, I find it very hard to believe you'd lightly throw a term like this around and give it to VayneAuthority when it is extremely clear to one such as me that he does not deserve it. You are capable of fairly good analysis, I assume? Why give this VayneAuthority such an honoured title that early in the game without any real analysis or reasoning? You seem to me as someone who does not enjoy being proven wrong. Am I wrong about this? You have admitted you were wrong about the town play skills of this VayneAuthority so this must not have been easy for you to do---you only admitted to it when I repeatedly brought it to the attention of the thread. You seemed perfectly content to move on to your new read of calling him 'bad' without drawing attention to your mistake. On that note it seems very easy for you to do as such; calling people 'jubjubs,' appears to denote your perceived superiority towards other people in the thread, yet you cower and back down not unlike a dog who has urinated on clean upholstery being scolded by its master when confronted by this Hapahauli. Would it be fair to assume you will only attack those whom you perceive to be 'beneath you?' Is this more likely to be a scum or town trait, or is it non-alignment indicative? What I am truly unsure about is the degree to which you actually care about your ego. I would think you're more likely to discard this ego as a scum player in favor of lying, but I cannot, of course, be sure. | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
On June 11 2013 07:30 Hapahauli wrote: Gravity Man is asking a ton of really irrelevant questions to BH now that I'm reading the convo over again. In what way do you find my questions irrelevant? I am confused. | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
On June 11 2013 08:00 Hapahauli wrote: Like none of this has to do anything with scumhunting. BH thinks I'm town - why does it matter what his feelings about my play are? As I am not delving into past games to determine alignment, for players I may be having trouble understanding it suits me to attempt to figure out what each player is thinking, capable of, and even feeling in order to determine a specific mindset. If you find that irrelevant that is your prerogative, however I do not deem it so. | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
On June 11 2013 10:09 Blazinghand wrote: brb dinner Is there some way for you to prove to those of us present that you are actually consuming nutrients at the moment? A picture would suffice. | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
Perhaps you should lay a vote on somebody in the next 4 minutes if you do not want to be modkilled. Fair warning should be given regardless of alignment I feel to uphold the spirit of the game. | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
On June 11 2013 10:59 Blazinghand wrote: Am I alone on this oats thing? I believe you are. While at one point I believed it was possible for this jampidampi to be lost in the sea of mafia players present in non-newbie-type games, Hapa's analysis of both this game and his past games would appear to present otherwise. | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
On June 11 2013 10:59 jampidampi wrote: BTW i think we have two scum and some third parties. I fyou read the OP carefully, it doesn't give out the number of scum. Is this even a possibility? This also makes it seem as though this jampidampi was not aware of the presence of closed setups before this point. This post by jampidampi creates a pit in my stomach where I feel he may be newer to this than we may have thought. I will not change my vote at this stage as it allows for too much exploitation by possible mafia members. | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
On June 11 2013 11:03 jampidampi wrote: Look, no one can give scum reads thats not me, how am I supposed to find scum? Is there absolutely nothing that anyone said throughout the entirety of this game that made you think twice? Is there anything at all that might be suspicious in the slightest that you can give us? At this point since you will cease to exist anyway you have nothing to lose, no matter how inane or irrelevant it sounds to you. | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
On June 11 2013 11:04 jampidampi wrote: I think there is a SK or a survivor, or maybe even both I do not understand what would make you say this. | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
On June 11 2013 11:07 jampidampi wrote: It's kinda imba if there are only two scum, right? Why do you speak as if you know for a fact that there are two scum? It is possible in a setup such as this to have two scum; there are many dependent factors including power roles and the presence of third party roles as you have mentioned. I have never heard of the presence of multiple third party roles in a game, especially in a small game such as this. | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
On June 11 2013 11:09 Blazinghand wrote: given that it didn't succeed, the only person interested in lynching oats was the guy getting lynched, and i've been getting shit all day for being the only guy who has figured out oats is scum, i find your analysis pretty bad I do not believe many people besides this Hapahauli himself even mentioned you regarding your scum-read of the master of Oats. I am curious as to why you feel the need to portray this false confidence to the thread. You do not know for certain that Oats is scum, nor do any of us in here. Telling us thusly does not help out your case, nor does playing the martyr. | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
I felt (and still feel) the cases were good, thus by nature I cannot offer much remorse as to my actions as I was simply performing my function. As the game progresses, however, I am still attempting to make up for the wrongs I have caused in the past. It is of course possible since no one quite yet understands the true nature of gravity that one does not face complete obliteration upon entering a black hole; rather they may escape unscathed somewhere else entirely. It is my hope that this fate befalls you, jampidampi. | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
On June 11 2013 11:16 Hapahauli wrote: Well I'm going to condemn someone tonight. Who should it be? You realize by doing so you are only further placing the fate of this town into your hands alone? I am not sure I agree with the usage of this ability at the present time if the strength of a read is not crystal clear. | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
On June 11 2013 11:21 ShiaoPi wrote: hmpf on jampi, but yeah that happened. I think it is a good idea to use your powera tonight hapa. no guranteed protection makes you vulnerable now. Better uae it up now. BH could you like do some coherent thinking? If you are so convinced on oats, do a case, try convincing us instead of jus sayin oats is scum. The bolded section makes a great deal of sense; it is a great deal of responsibility for one man to bear, however, especially one who largely led a mislynch on the first day of action. I suppose if the man is town-aligned though he is likely to want to use his newfound power for fear of it being transferred to someone who is not friendly to the green cause. It is unfortunate that we do not know whether or not we may be able to protect this Hapahauli either way; were I a different robot I could offer up a Leaf Shield or Star Crash but alas, I am not. My power is only useful for manipulating the very forces that hold the universe together. | ||
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GravityMan
Guyana (French)188 Posts
On June 11 2013 11:23 Hapahauli wrote: I have a read, I just want to see if anyone mentions him before I do. I am intrigued by your comment. On June 11 2013 09:25 Sylencia wrote: Ok... day 1 claim is unfortunate  ##unvote is the obvious first move GravityMan: 1) No, not really, everyone is acting really erratically this game and it's making things kind of difficult to work out. 2) That argument was actually rather annoying - flamefests just spam up the thread uselessly and demoralises the town side most of the time. I don't even feel like there was anything productive that came from it... 3) Lurkerish, lynchbait, scum jump on my weak cases etc. etc. Unless Jampi shows up soon (he said he would be here around now right?), I'm going to put a vote on him going mostly on Hapa's reasoning. ##vote Jampi I am unsatisfied by Sylencia's answer to be earlier queries of him. To say that 'everyone is acting erratically' is offering absolutely nothing of use to the town, his answer given regarding the earlier altercation was simple and arguably the 'right' answer. He appears afraid to take a stance of his own or speak out and attract attention. His final point that he is 'lurkerish' and 'lynchbait,' concerns me, however because while this may be true, he is pre-emptively offering up an excuse as to his play in this very game. I certainly do not want to remove anyone from this plane of existence that is a member of the town who may appear to be scum, however given no other options I find it possible that this Sylencia could be a mafia member. At the very least he has not been useful to us thus far, and that is often what vigilante-type roles are used for, are they not? | ||
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