It's like blindingly obvious that VA is going out of his way to not lead or to contribute thoughts that are from himself at all. If I could vote to lynch VA today I would.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

June 14 2013 00:04 GMT

#1181

i'm here but fairly soon i'm going to leave for dinner and not be back until after the deadline. i'm pretty sure there's nobody around to unvote me so that's basically it.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

June 14 2013 00:06 GMT

#1182

whatever VA does with his bullet, hold him accountable. dont' let him say "BH flipped town so i shoot GM with no explanation huehueheue" or something similar. a

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

June 14 2013 00:08 GMT

#1184

well for what it's worth, i'm less sure you're scum GM but it's entirely based on associative stuff with VA that i shouldn't be thinking about until one of you flips. I feel obligated to say this though so that people don't go apeshit on you after I die.

VA is my top scumread.

lurking is a problem.

etc etc

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

June 14 2013 00:17 GMT

#1188

Everything about VA is scummy, except for the actual claim, which comes off somewhat townie (it would be risky for scum to do at that time, and so on). That being said, everything AFTER the claim also comes off scummy, including how he's used (or not used) his doublevoting power and his vigi shot and his DT check (and lied about it). It's one thing to have a slow start, be forced to claim DT, then get your shit together. I've seen it happen. I've been that. It's another thing entirely to not get your shit together, dick around with talking about your night results, then use the powers Hapa entrusts to you not to help the town or to drive the discussion, but to attempt to follow the town and abdicate responsibility.

If I get lynched today, don't auto shoot GM. Vayne, whatever you do with your powers must come from you. If you decide to shoot someone based entirely on what I've said, just so you can say "hey it wasn't my fault" if the target flips town or whatever, then I want everyone here to know: VA is scum. He's been hiding and following and trying to dodge blame for the usage or non usage of his powers. It's not that he's using them badly, which would be one thing (though he is using them badly): it's that he's trying to make it so that people other than him are responsible for their usage.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

June 14 2013 00:19 GMT

#1189

I initially thought of stutters as scum but now he's somewhere between null and scum for me. I don't see why he'd pick an argument with VA regardless of VA's alignment if stutters was scum. That being said, I feel that at least 1 scum is among the lurkers.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

June 15 2013 03:11 GMT

#1311

Wow I was so wrong this game! Many congrats to AG and ShiaoPi. Thanks to hosts for hosting.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

June 15 2013 03:37 GMT

#1327

On June 15 2013 12:27 Sylencia wrote:

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I'll just leave this here cause I'm so mad right now, not even being town and I got everything correct at that stage -_____-

It's not what you know, it's what you can prove!

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

June 15 2013 04:00 GMT

#1339

On June 15 2013 12:58 WaveofShadow wrote:

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Can't blame him for the game though.

Yeah, by the time he took the shot it was profoundly unlikely we were going to win. But it was still a comically bad shot.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

June 15 2013 04:01 GMT

#1341

WoS don't you even worry I am the calmest most forgiving fellow possible. When have I ever been mad at you in a game?

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

June 15 2013 04:16 GMT

#1351

I think smurfing is fine! When I actually manage to not break smurf I find I play pretty well and scumhunt (or be scum) better than I typically do on Blazinghand.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

June 15 2013 04:23 GMT

#1354

On June 15 2013 13:20 WaveofShadow wrote:

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Have you smurfed a bunch other than the WF games?
Do you find you typically play in a similar way or do you try to change it up? (Not necessarily with a 'character' like I did)

I try to spam a little less so I don't give myself away, but I have smurfed as Toutestchaos and something else I think. Also both of my Wade Fell games were pretty sweetacular

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

June 15 2013 18:16 GMT

#1381

Definitely some premium tier scum play this game. Worth a podcast imo.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

June 15 2013 18:55 GMT

#1387

On June 16 2013 03:49 ShiaoPi wrote:

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I was talking about Mafia as in the entire game. So podcast for discussing TL Mafia related things?

The thread is here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=400994

After a game ends, sometimes people get together and do a podcast, recorded and uploaded usually be either Hapahauli or me.