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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 09 2013 21:42 GMT
#201
Actually hell, vote me for mayor.

I'm essentially leading the town anyway, and I want to use the fancy mysterious powers I will gain to kill scum.

##Unvote Mayor:
##Vote Mayor: Hapahauli
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 21:46 GMT
#202
Works for me.

##unvote mayor

##vote mayor: Hapahauli
I come in for the scraps
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 09 2013 21:56 GMT
#203
Why you should vote me for Mayor:

1) I don't roll power-roles often, but when I do, I eviscerate scum-teams.
  • In Newbie XXIII, I rolled cop. I lead a last-minute bandwagon on scum D1, got a red-check on the 2nd scum N1, said "fuck it" and lynched the 3rd scum D2, and then the 2nd scum rage-quit because he thought I was cheating.
  • In Witchcraft Mini Mafia, I won the TL Mafia award for Best Plan because I abused the blue-setup to confirm all the mafia on D3.

2) It should be blatantly obvious to anyone who is familiar with my playstyle that I'm town. I'm active, I give-a-shit about the game, and I'm not being pants-on-head retarded. If I begin to act differently, you can always unvote me.

3) Let's be done with this mayoral voting crap so we can go on to actually scum-hunting.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 09 2013 22:01 GMT
#204
Also @ BH and Vayne

Since you're both around, who are your top scum-reads at this stage?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 22:06 GMT
#205
Oats/jampi

Is there 2 or 3 scum?

If 3 i'd give filler slot to that lurker gravityman, everyone else seems fine

Guess once he gets replaced I can get a better read on whoever fills in for him
I come in for the scraps
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 09 2013 22:11 GMT
#206
On June 10 2013 07:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
Oats/jampi


Can you explain your reads a bit? I think I heard a decent amount from you on Oats, but I'm more curious about Jampi.

Is there 2 or 3 scum?

I'd assume either 3 scum or 2 powerful scum + an SK.

If 3 i'd give filler slot to that lurker gravityman, everyone else seems fine


DarthPunk also hasn't posted.

Also, what do you think about Sylencia?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 09 2013 22:36 GMT
#207
Sigh. We're basically 24 hours in and we have 6 pages of thread.

What is this, a newbie game?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
June 09 2013 22:45 GMT
#208
why would you speculate 3p for me and not scum BTW?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 09 2013 22:58 GMT
#209
On June 10 2013 07:45 Blazinghand wrote:
why would you speculate 3p for me and not scum BTW?


Because your demeanor as scum is generally more chaotic. You seem very tempered, which is odd, but not necessarily scummy.

Also, BH plz:
On June 10 2013 07:01 Hapahauli wrote:
Also @ BH and Vayne

Since you're both around, who are your top scum-reads at this stage?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 09 2013 23:02 GMT
#210
On June 10 2013 07:11 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 07:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
Oats/jampi


Can you explain your reads a bit? I think I heard a decent amount from you on Oats, but I'm more curious about Jampi.

Show nested quote +
Is there 2 or 3 scum?

I'd assume either 3 scum or 2 powerful scum + an SK.

Show nested quote +
If 3 i'd give filler slot to that lurker gravityman, everyone else seems fine


DarthPunk also hasn't posted.

Also, what do you think about Sylencia?


yea I forgot about DP so ignore that then

Sylencia no read yet

Jampi is playing a bit lurky and reactive, when I played with him in my newbie game he was much more proactive and died night 1 as a result. Not seeing any of his analysis here so ill give him some more time but if he doesn't do anything leaning scum.

I always think oats is scum so far except in Carnival Cruise game, so I don't even know if it's a good read but he's generally hard to read since he just spams the ever living shit out of people and it has no alignment indications
I come in for the scraps
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
June 09 2013 23:12 GMT
#211
OK hapa since you weren't in bit did you obs emergency mini Mafia I by your story.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 09 2013 23:30 GMT
#212
Oh lol, was that the game you claimed SK in? You told me about that on Skype... oh well.

Either way, the 3rd party comment was stupid on my part regardless of whether it's valid or not. No point in 3rd party hunting right now.

So let's talk about your scumreads/suspicions now pl0x.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
June 09 2013 23:52 GMT
#213
On June 10 2013 06:42 Hapahauli wrote:
Actually hell, vote me for mayor.

I'm essentially leading the town anyway, and I want to use the fancy mysterious powers I will gain to kill scum.

##Unvote Mayor:
##Vote Mayor: Hapahauli


Well at least the last phase is over.

##Unvote Mayor:
##Vote Mayor: Hapahauli

and oh look actual reasoning: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18851240
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
June 10 2013 00:01 GMT
#214
@vayne
Earlier i asked you a question in this post. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18848066
While I am you didnt answer it.
The post below has the kind of content i was looking for. So consider the last question answered, providing you go on posting content, as opposed to the stuff I could call 'dodging' that you did earlier.

On June 10 2013 08:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 07:11 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 10 2013 07:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
Oats/jampi


Can you explain your reads a bit? I think I heard a decent amount from you on Oats, but I'm more curious about Jampi.

Is there 2 or 3 scum?

I'd assume either 3 scum or 2 powerful scum + an SK.

If 3 i'd give filler slot to that lurker gravityman, everyone else seems fine


DarthPunk also hasn't posted.

Also, what do you think about Sylencia?


yea I forgot about DP so ignore that then

Sylencia no read yet

Jampi is playing a bit lurky and reactive, when I played with him in my newbie game he was much more proactive and died night 1 as a result. Not seeing any of his analysis here so ill give him some more time but if he doesn't do anything leaning scum.

I always think oats is scum so far except in Carnival Cruise game, so I don't even know if it's a good read but he's generally hard to read since he just spams the ever living shit out of people and it has no alignment indications

Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 10 2013 00:01 GMT
#215
I quoted your post and tried to make the best sense I could of your questions. They really weren't clear in my eyes.
I come in for the scraps
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
June 10 2013 00:32 GMT
#216
On June 10 2013 09:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
I quoted your post and tried to make the best sense I could of your questions. They really weren't clear in my eyes.

oops.
Oh fuck me, not reading the thread 'properly'. Well I was reading, your back and forth with oats trying to work out who was answering and who was evading or looking busy, then stutters and BH popped out of nowhere... and I ignored my own posts reply... {blush}




as said your recent posts (the ones i did focus on reading) satisfy(for now) what I was trying to get earlier, aka stuff that I think I can analyse to see if your brain is engaged and scum hunting, or just dodging.

+ Show Spoiler +

This is possibly a clarification or not as needed.

Most of that post defines how you talk about "Oh we get zero information without flips... blah blah..." and looks to me like way of saying nothing but making posts.

With reference to this post of yours, which worried, with its to me false claim of zero information.
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 09 2013 15:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 15:22 ShiaoPi wrote:
I am intersted in getting sylencia back here right now.
What is your stance on my campaign?


Null until everyone votes, if there's just one mayor and everyone votes him we gain zero info, thats what scum wants.


@Vayne The question was.
" Independent of how the votes pan out, because sometimes at the end of the day there is one no brainer candidate.
If we discussed the mayoral campaign, and found out who was shy about commenting during the day before the result was clear, would that help find scum or would it as you seem to suggest yield 'zero information'. "


I can now make the point clearer...

Just recently the idea of voting, hapa appeared... (which may or may not have surprised some)
If we had discussed the mayoral campaign in more depth earlier, and found out who was shy about commenting during the day before the result was clear, would that help find scum or would it as you seem to suggest yield 'zero information'.

What I was wanted was reasoned answers from you, on something, on anything, because at that time I hadn't seen them. Your back and forth with oats and the stuff since is what I was actually seeking to get to happen. Now there are some posts by you with content.

Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
GravityMan
Profile Joined June 2013
Guyana (French)188 Posts
June 10 2013 01:20 GMT
#217
I think you are all underestimating the gravity of the situation we are in right now.

Gravity Man for Mayor
Now all of you are asking right now, "Who is this upstart young robot, and why should we elect him mayor of our little town?"
To that I answer, because I am seeking more from my life.

Up until now, the thought of using my powers only for destruction has weighed heavily upon my cold steel shoulders and I yearned to make up for that which I hath wrought in the past.
The attraction of a power role cannot be taken lightly, of course, nor can the massive responsibility associated with it, whatever it may be beyond the double vote.

"But surely we have no idea who this metal man even is!"
First of all, I am not Metal Man. That is this guy.
[image loading]

I am this guy.
[image loading]

No resemblance in the slightest. Well our chassis are both red but that is all.
The point is that it does not matter who I am, or what I am built from. What matters is the fluid that courses through my body is green. What matters is what I will do for this town as its mayor.
I promise completely transparent reads and analysis so you need never question my alignment.
I promise strong activity levels so you need not wonder whether or not I am lurking.
I promise to hunt scum until my gears turn their very last, my positronic brain shorts out, my joints rust and my core dies.

There are others within this game that will promise to do the very same things as I.
But can they, as mere flesh and blood beings, offer you the efficiency that I can? Surely not.

I will crush the scum who have infiltrated this town under the weight of a thousand thousand suns.
I will engineer their slow destruction as their very molecules are ripped apart with the force of a black hole.


But let me not convince you through words, let me convince you with action.
##Mayor Vote: GravityMan

"But GravityMan!" You say. "How dare you go up against the most active player in the thread thus far?"

Because I simply cannot trust a man who makes an obvious grab for power after pushing and supporting a townread of his so early and for so long. This townread who, himself, has done absolutely nothing to deserve the honor and responsibility that comes with the mayoral title.
It appears as though a farce, a show of confidence simply to establish his towniness in the thread so that eventually he may gain the trust of others and rob his townread of the title he so promised.

To what end I know not thus far, but you can be sure I will get to the heart of the matter.

I invite you now, one and all, to join me in the rousting of those who would wish us ill from our midst.

I welcome any and all questions you have for me, for as you begin understanding where it is I come from, so too can I begin my understanding of the thoughts in your relatively soft cranial cavities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3Pkpp49aMk
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 10 2013 01:30 GMT
#218
Dearest GravityMan,

I have no interest in seeing people run mayoral campaigns over empty political promises. My only desire is to see the best scumhunter in the game elected mayor so he/she may have the most influence over the game as possible.

So what are your scum-hunting credentials?
Furthermore, what are your reads thusfar?
Lastly, what are your reasons for not wanting me to be elected mayor? The baseless and unjustified criticism you directed my way in your intro post doesn't cut it.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
June 10 2013 01:33 GMT
#219
@people who think they understand setup balance.
I am happy with my hapa vote, but have an unresolved issue of the trade offs involved.

Re the implications of these two posts.
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 10 2013 06:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
remember that this is semi-closed setup so we dont even know if theres a medic or anything. Getting voted as mayor is pretty much a death sentence and I think BH sees it the same way I do. Don't want a fucking target on my back to start the game.


On June 10 2013 06:39 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 06:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
remember that this is semi-closed setup so we dont even know if theres a medic or anything. Getting voted as mayor is pretty much a death sentence and I think BH sees it the same way I do. Don't want a fucking target on my back to start the game.


Setup-speculation wise, I'd imagine the mayor would have some sort of veteran or bodyguard mechanic. Else it would just be really poor game design and de-incentivize any vets from wanting to be elected.



You can't "de-incentivize any vets from wanting to be elected" if you don't tell them what the mechanic is and we have not been told. The vets (eg BH?) however might be worried about whether or not it is a poisoned chalice. What the powers actually are does not effect that choice.
I personally suspect, that unless there is incentive for a vet to be mayor, and it is not quite as Vayne says a death sentence then it would be a bit bastardy('poor game design'), but I know I have no idea what is and isn't "normal" (I even proved it in my first post )
One point at which my brain goes WTF is on this question, how does the mayor and its powers likely balance out the games size issues.(11 is to me an odd number for a game size.)

To be sure I have the correct balance in how sure I am a 'candidate is town', vs 'the skill' with which they will use the powers (or if the, towny town mayor, lacked skill how reliably they will do what the informed town tells them too? )

I think I could do with some well informed rationally justified speculation on the powers and the condition..., no hurry. I have as I suggested my own guesses, that I based the vote for hapa on, and at the moment he ticks both my boxes.



Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 10 2013 01:36 GMT
#220
EBWOP:
I have no interest in seeing people run mayoral campaigns over empty political promises. My only desire is to see the best scumhunter in the game elected mayor so he/she may have the most influence over the game as possible.


To add to this...

If that scum-hunter is you, I'll gladly hand over the keys to the city to you. However something like this...
Because I simply cannot trust a man who makes an obvious grab for power after pushing and supporting a townread of his so early and for so long. This townread who, himself, has done absolutely nothing to deserve the honor and responsibility that comes with the mayoral title.
It appears as though a farce, a show of confidence simply to establish his towniness in the thread so that eventually he may gain the trust of others and rob his townread of the title he so promised.


...is poor analysis at best. It is a baseless discrediting of my campaign.

Surely you understand that a grab for power is not alignment indicative. You ignore my activity and the effort I've put into this game so far and randomly call it a farce.

If that is the depth of your analysis, why should I trust you as mayor?
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