PTP IV - Demon's Run - Page 17

On July 03 2013 07:32 austinmcc wrote:
It should be coming. I didn't mean for the delayed shot to mess things up, was just worried you had a way to still win like being able to reflect a shot or...NRA oddly working, or whatever.

On July 03 2013 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
So town what did we learn.

IF YOU HAVE ALMOST CONFIRMED SCUM, YOU KILL CONFIRMED SCUM. Scum team was outed d2, I've never seen a town blow a game so epically as this.

On July 03 2013 12:48 austinmcc wrote:
I targeted you with it and shot gonzaw. I figured you'd medic or vet, and if you were vet he'd die, if you were medic I would have you medic me and he'd die. Since you used vet (i think that's what obs said), I didn't get to retarget anything, it just fizzled.

I was, again, paranoid that you'd use NRA member. I could have died if you went that route over protection, which is one reason I made sure to say that KP wasn't targeted. If it was just KP, NRA member wouldn't have mattered. But oddly enough, I could have died from the non-KP action I took.

On July 03 2013 13:00 austinmcc wrote:
I had a lot of help in getting there, but glad we could win it.

You can consider my effort payback for this little incident:cough cough

On July 01 2013 06:27 Crossfire99 wrote:
Kita, this is what I'm doing to you right now.



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On July 03 2013 13:04 austinmcc wrote:

For once, paranoia finally pays off.

I honestly thought you were bluffing with the big win percentage chance, but now I absolutely see it. I think that if I wasn't still super paranoid about NRA Member (which seriously doesn't do anything against factional KP), I might have gone for it. But as long as we were one on one and couldn't lynch each other, I didn't see a reason not to choose random nights to fire at you. Gonzaw telling me items were one-use was a big help, although...I assume that would have come out at some point during the day, when we started talking percentages.

On July 03 2013 13:10 gonzaw wrote:


Before D4 ended I asked deconduo if he allowed scum to just no-NK ad nauseaum in a 1v1 situation like this.
I felt it was kind of....unfair I guess. He said he'd think about it but never answered ;_;



Oh yeah I forgot I told scum how to win against us and lost because of it, thanks for the reminder

On July 03 2013 13:16 gonzaw wrote:


Also, couldn't Xfire technically just NOT use his item on those 27 nights?
So you choose not to shoot on N5, Xfire chooses not to use his item that same night
You choose not to shoot on N6, Xfire chooses not to use his item that same night
...
You choose to shoot on N889, Xfire chooses to use his item on N889, you lose.

I mean...it's technically possible.
But you'd say something like "oh, but then I could just wait another day more!" yeah but games of mafia dont' work like that, at some point the host FORCES you to shoot.

I mean, technically there is nothing that says scum must 100% shoot at night and town must 100% lynch at day. In ANY game of mafia town can NL at day and scum no-NK at night, yet that doesn't happen because someone's gotta give, and the host will make sure of that one way or the other

In those cases it's difficult since there are 2 actors with 2 different actions: town -> lynch, and scum -> NK. But here it's easy, host just forces YOU to shoot, since you are the sole actor (scum -> NK).

...I guess the most fair situation would be this: Host asks Xfire at which cycle he would activate his item, then host asks austin at which cycle he will NK.
If both are the same, it's assumed the game went on and both acted the same night, thus Xfire wins
If both are different, then it's assumed austin shot Xfire when he was not protected, so austin wins.

...if austin can just give a number like N9898120932937109847612039781320918273 then I guess it doesn't matter, but again, host can take it down to a "reasonable" number......I guess

I dunno this shit is confusing lol

On July 03 2013 13:19 gonzaw wrote:


You could force someone to use his ability? wtf lol



You talking about NRA member or your own role?

If you are talking about NRA member then maybe yes it's OP (in this type of game at least). Like I said I threw random abilities in like 10 minutes, I didn't have time to think about balance