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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On July 01 2013 06:13 Crossfire99 wrote: gonzaw, i think I might have messed up what the items were, but I can prove to you what i did do last night if you give me a second. ......wat | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
2v1v1 Sincerely, The Survivor | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
For instance, if it's 2v2 or something, then do you plan stuff like "Well, scum and town have equal numbers, but they would NL, therefore we have to take into account every possibility every single townie and scum can do on N4 to determine if scum have already won the game or not" or stuff like that? Or do you just see "2v2, nothing will change that soon, bleh scum win" ? I mean, same principle if it's 2v2, or 2v1v1, etc | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On July 01 2013 06:15 gonzaw wrote: Hosts, how much do you plan in advance to determine if a faction won? For instance, if it's 2v2 or something, then do you plan stuff like "Well, scum and town have equal numbers, but they would NL, therefore we have to take into account every possibility every single townie and scum can do on N4 to determine if scum have already won the game or not" or stuff like that? Or do you just see "2v2, nothing will change that soon, bleh scum win" ? I mean, same principle if it's 2v2, or 2v1v1, etc From OP: Alignments: The Alliance You win when all Anti-Town forces are dead. The Church You win when all Town forces are dead. ????? You win if you are alive at the end of the game and have fulfilled your victory condition. | ||
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Hosts know that today is 2v2 and we NL. But austin is town, and thus can give me either a vet, or a vig, or a medic, etc, so I can kill scum kita/Xfire tonight. So hosts felt this was a possibility, and with this possibility maybe town has a chance to win (maybe?), so they felt they should keep the game going on. But that only if Xfire didn't steal kitaman's vote (or anybody's vote for that matter). As scum, Xfire could have just used the Tazer (I proted him last night so I would have died), or use the VoteThief on me for instance, to insta win as scum (and that would be a 100% win GG from scum, not this "prolonged win" they may have been having right now if what I said above is true)... ....so yeah, Xfire confirmed town. So austin, would you like claiming 3P now maybe? Maybe you could battle with kita to see who's the real survivor? | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
So...if this was something like 4 townies and 10000000 scum, the game STILL goes on until those 4 townies die? I was ALWAYS under the impression hosts did "hidden calculations" to determine automatic wins when it's impossible another faction can win. That's why the whole "you win when scum equal town" win condition, because if scum equal town scum win 100% (in games with that win con that are normal at least). I thought something similar would have happened now. If town has already lost and you hosts are just prolonging my suffering making me feel like we have a chance...I'll never forget ;_; | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
If austin is indeed scum and not 3P or some shit (I honestly don't know right now I've done clearly thinking about this shit since Xata flipped), then we need to enter the WIFOM game to see if we can still win | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 01 2013 06:18 gonzaw wrote: If you're convinced, then alright.Like, the ONLY ONLY ONLY way Xfire can be scum, is if: Hosts know that today is 2v2 and we NL. But austin is town, and thus can give me either a vet, or a vig, or a medic, etc, so I can kill scum kita/Xfire tonight. So hosts felt this was a possibility, and with this possibility maybe town has a chance to win (maybe?), so they felt they should keep the game going on. But that only if Xfire didn't steal kitaman's vote (or anybody's vote for that matter). As scum, Xfire could have just used the Tazer (I proted him last night so I would have died), or use the VoteThief on me for instance, to insta win as scum (and that would be a 100% win GG from scum, not this "prolonged win" they may have been having right now if what I said above is true)... ....so yeah, Xfire confirmed town. So austin, would you like claiming 3P now maybe? Maybe you could battle with kita to see who's the real survivor? | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On July 01 2013 06:20 gonzaw wrote: So...if this was something like 4 townies and 10000000 scum, the game STILL goes on until those 4 townies die? I was ALWAYS under the impression hosts did "hidden calculations" to determine automatic wins when it's impossible another faction can win. That's why the whole "you win when scum equal town" win condition, because if scum equal town scum win 100% (in games with that win con that are normal at least). I thought something similar would have happened now. If town has already lost and you hosts are just prolonging my suffering making me feel like we have a chance...I'll never forget ;_; If the result was 100% set in stone, I would end the game. However due to the wide variety of roles and powers, there's almost always a chance for one faction to come out on top no matter what the situation is. Also its possible to reach a point where town has lost but can influence whether scum or 3rd party wins for example. That's why the wincons are defined as such. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On July 01 2013 06:22 austinmcc wrote: If you're convinced, then alright. Okay Nice we could reach an understanding Hey austin, I wouldn't mind you giving me a medic or vig tonight again  | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On July 01 2013 06:24 deconduo wrote: If the result was 100% set in stone, I would end the game. However due to the wide variety of roles and powers, there's almost always a chance for one faction to come out on top no matter what the situation is. Also its possible to reach a point where town has lost but can influence whether scum or 3rd party wins for example. That's why the wincons are defined as such. Okay... ...I guess I had my hopes up a little too much. So town can still lose *sigh* oh well, let's see what happens then. Xfire, if you are scum or 3P or some shit and town already lost...please don't prolong this shit by making it seem you are town or something.....just don't If that's the case, no need to rub it in my face any more than all of you have done so already. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 01 2013 06:24 gonzaw wrote: I can't anymore. I can get rid of your bears, and crossfire's bears, but once there are less than 4 people to send questions to, I lose that power and get to double up on de-bearing. I really wanted this role to be able to clear out all the bears.Okay Nice we could reach an understanding Hey austin, I wouldn't mind you giving me a medic or vig tonight again | ||
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
##Vote: kitaman27 Kitaman27: ## Vote: kitaman27 | ||
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
 I thought we would lose dude, please understand ;_; | ||
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