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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 29 2013 03:32 GMT
#2
/obs
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 30 2013 10:36 GMT
#30
um the reason PM's work is because there is a win condition, and everyone plays to win.
This does make it easier for town I feel though.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 02 2013 06:06 GMT
#36
/in
woohooo
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 05 2013 07:50 GMT
#43
/out
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 30 2013 12:28 GMT
#97
/in
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 06 2013 08:36 GMT
#119
/in
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 16 2013 04:16 GMT
#175
VE is scum, and Im town. Game too ez.

In other news, Firmtofu pre typed that and its not alignment indicative.
Pming people isnt a big deal and should be claimed, but honestly, if you dont mason a strong town read, you be bad or scum.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 16 2013 04:22 GMT
#177
wtf hapa. horrible questions.

Seriously insanely bad questions.
Why?
Question 1 is policy talk and all the answers will be the same.
Question 2 is stupid and we should never ever policy lynch just cause someone doesnt post enough. Wtf lurker lynch disguised?
Question 3 is also stupid and not alignment indicative.
COME ON HAPA.


Firm Tofu, why are you even bringing up 'hunting' the traitor? Are there specific traitor tells? What???
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 16 2013 04:31 GMT
#180
Yeah hapa, whos scum?

The reason why I think masoning a strong townread is good is because you dont have a post limit to discuss the game with them, I dont feel that pming a scumread will confirm or deny your suspicions on him and with suspicion from both of you, the pm conversation is therefore less useful. Are town confirmed masons better or non town confirmed masons better if you are a mason? hmm?


Strong could also mean townread that has played a few games and is relatively experienced. And apparently you guys think that people dont think. Yeah sure Ill mason someone the whole game has masoned. useful. Guys....
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 16 2013 04:48 GMT
#186
Man im totally gonna blow my post count in like the first 3 hours.

Who are you looking to be scum hapa. You can retract your statement at any time, but you have GOT to have some inkling who the people have posted are scum.

Also, we disagree on how to use masoning. And I dont think I can change your opinion so lets not waste posts talking about it.



6 mafia + traitor right RoL?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 16 2013 05:17 GMT
#195
DrH is waffly.
[quote]But you bring up an excellent point. FirmTofu's post is seemingly designed to seem as helpful as possible (to the point that it looks pre-written) but I can't imagine town is very fixated on the traitor at all. FirmTofu, explain what you're thinking and was your post pre-written? Are you just a statistics/setup nerd that always looks at the game that way? I don't necessarily find it extra suspicious that you're describing the ideal play of the traitor, this is certainly something the traitor and everybody else probably knows, but it's the most substantial part of your initial post and it's an alarming fixation.


Tofu, have you played with a traitor mechanic before? If so, what did you gain from that? If not, why are you focusing on the traitor?

Hapa is playing incredibly oddly. Incredibly. Do you wish for us to lynch the traitor Hapa? Like why would Firmtofu as the traitor talk all about the traitor? Seems a bit obvious. A bit.
Also how do you not have at least 1 guy leaning scum. Gut read hapa. GUT. Or do you not have a guy?


Everyone, name 1 scumread. OR DIE!
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 16 2013 06:40 GMT
#214
DrH masoned me btw guys.
Dont really think its alignment indicative that he didnt mention this.

VE wtf? Tell me how wasting posts arguing with Vayne is scummy? Have you played with Vayne before?
Tell me how what he did isnt pressuring Vayne.
tell me how scummy you are!

Thoughts on FT VE?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 16 2013 08:23 GMT
#218
But Ve and Yamato I dont think are both scum. Weird.


MZ, so is DrH scummy?
FT's post is totally bullshit.

On July 16 2013 15:14 FirmTofu wrote:
I have so many problems with this post. It is a completely disproportionate reaction to my prod.

Let's address the points first.
You say I'm defending Vayne. This is not true. I was pointing out the inconsistencies in your behavior. You accuse Vayne, but you aren't addressing a similar scum-tell in another player. This indicates that you are picking and choosing your targets, instead of actually scumhunting.

My point had nothing to do with the topic of PM's, I was addressing your behavior specifically and how you are specifically ignoring the slOosh while pursuing Vayne for reasons that should implicate both of them.

This post of yours is digging you into a deeper hole. You made a sarcastic post saying you never even read slOosh's post, but you come back and vehemently say he is a town read for you. If you never actually read slOosh's post, why do have such an aggressive, belligerent response to my question? As someone who had never read slOosh's post, you sure sound like you formed a very strong position on him.

I find this all too convenient. I think you lied about not having read his post. Am I correct?

FT says he isnt defending Vayne but slams DrH for the exact same thing he himself is doing.???
He seems overly concerned about people lying. Scumtell because no one intentionally lies and its easier to attack town on a supposed lie and not actual content.
Also, he is saying that vayne and sloosh are saying similar things. They arent by far. Sloosh is saying dont use it if you dont know how to. Vayne is saying he WONT use it. Nope, totally different. One is intentionally playing badly(vayne), One is possibly bad advice but with limited masoning, Im inclined to agree with sloosh.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 16 2013 08:31 GMT
#220
I guess in theory everyone could mason me then we could like have really laborious conversations where I rely stuff from one person to another. I dunno, im kinda lazy.


Rayn, so if you are scum and you use your role, no one knows.
Right. Sounds like your claim isnt actually a good thing.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 16 2013 12:16 GMT
#227
wtf is this bullshit.
Total fucking retardness.

Malongo, Koshi and kholly, start playing the game.

Kholly, why is DrH scum? Also there is a voting thread.

Malongo, why is MZ being polarizing a scumtell?

Koshi, why waste 5% of your limit on a useless post? Absolutely USELESS.

Ok so scumteam is probably,
VE, sloosh, FT and other dudes. Everyone else that has posted I think is town.
Anyone that has strong disagreements for any of my reads, please explain why.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 16 2013 12:40 GMT
#229
oh god this type of player.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 16 2013 15:08 GMT
#236
You give me more credit than I deserve Gumshoe, this supposed plan of mine is brilliant for wasting posts.

From what you have seen of how I play, is this consistant of my town or scum play Gumshoe?

Also
D.H, Im really going to be wary of people who try to spend alot of there posts early in the day cycle, which Dh has, not being able to fight back is a great excuse and paints the accuser as a villain, im sure at least one or two scum will attempt something of this vien before the games through. His commenting on pming is fine, neither her nor there, its setup stuff to get the ball rolling but the point is hes getting the ball rolling. Which is townie to an extent. What I also really like is that he pressed Tofu and then backed off when he was satisfied with tofus response people please do not leave accusations hanging in the air, they will burn posts and actively hurt town, this interaction (Tofu posts, dh pressures, tofu explains, dh absolves) is the model for how interactions should go between townies if they have a grievance with one another. I think Dh's behaviour here strikes me as a townie trying to get the most out of as little as possible, so he reads green to me for now.

This post is completely full of crap. This is Tofu's last post and DrH didnt post after that.
On July 16 2013 15:14 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 14:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Oh I found his post, yeah he's not saying no one should mason nor is he saying he is refusing to mason which is a really dumb thing to do. Now you're defending Vayne by using misdirection/misinterpretation! Interesting!
a
slo0sh - don't use mason if you don't know what you're doing. I disagree but there have been terrible consequences for this (coagulation claiming medic to me day 1 of Salem Mafia, me outing every single blue to the godfather in the same game, etc.)

slo0sh is in the SAME post talking about how PMs are invaluable for forming scumhunting circles which is a townie way of looking at it. A single sentence in a single post being a "concerted effort to discourage PMing" is really REALLY misrepresenting what sloOsh is saying in a completely obvious way.

I have so many problems with this post. It is a completely disproportionate reaction to my prod.

Let's address the points first.
You say I'm defending Vayne. This is not true. I was pointing out the inconsistencies in your behavior. You accuse Vayne, but you aren't addressing a similar scum-tell in another player. This indicates that you are picking and choosing your targets, instead of actually scumhunting.

My point had nothing to do with the topic of PM's, I was addressing your behavior specifically and how you are specifically ignoring the slOosh while pursuing Vayne for reasons that should implicate both of them.

This post of yours is digging you into a deeper hole. You made a sarcastic post saying you never even read slOosh's post, but you come back and vehemently say he is a town read for you. If you never actually read slOosh's post, why do have such an aggressive, belligerent response to my question? As someone who had never read slOosh's post, you sure sound like you formed a very strong position on him.

I find this all too convenient. I think you lied about not having read his post. Am I correct?

I dont see how is this resolved in the slightest. I assume you think FT is town, is that right from this quote.
this interaction (Tofu posts, dh pressures, tofu explains, dh absolves) is the model for how interactions should go between townies if they have a grievance with one another.

So talk about how my response to FT's post is wrong please.

On July 16 2013 17:23 Oatsmaster wrote:

FT's post is totally bullshit.

Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 15:14 FirmTofu wrote:
I have so many problems with this post. It is a completely disproportionate reaction to my prod.

Let's address the points first.
You say I'm defending Vayne. This is not true. I was pointing out the inconsistencies in your behavior. You accuse Vayne, but you aren't addressing a similar scum-tell in another player. This indicates that you are picking and choosing your targets, instead of actually scumhunting.

My point had nothing to do with the topic of PM's, I was addressing your behavior specifically and how you are specifically ignoring the slOosh while pursuing Vayne for reasons that should implicate both of them.

This post of yours is digging you into a deeper hole. You made a sarcastic post saying you never even read slOosh's post, but you come back and vehemently say he is a town read for you. If you never actually read slOosh's post, why do have such an aggressive, belligerent response to my question? As someone who had never read slOosh's post, you sure sound like you formed a very strong position on him.

I find this all too convenient. I think you lied about not having read his post. Am I correct?

FT says he isnt defending Vayne but slams DrH for the exact same thing he himself is doing.???
He seems overly concerned about people lying. Scumtell because no one intentionally lies and its easier to attack town on a supposed lie and not actual content.
Also, he is saying that vayne and sloosh are saying similar things. They arent by far. Sloosh is saying dont use it if you dont know how to. Vayne is saying he WONT use it. Nope, totally different. One is intentionally playing badly(vayne), One is possibly bad advice but with limited masoning, Im inclined to agree with sloosh.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 16 2013 16:34 GMT
#241
gumshoe is scum.

Confirmed KILL.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 17 2013 00:23 GMT
#296
What.
Can I get posts too?

this is my 13th post.

I am having trouble seeing the argument DrH is making for me being scum. Because I dont talk the same in PMs as in the thread? I have like 20 posts and I have an annoying tendency to waste posts because I need to post after stuff happens.
Ok from what I can see, its that I think yamato's post is bad but I agree with the content. This makes me scum? No it doesnt. Dont be bad. Also I copied the same post about yamato to rayn from my conversation with DrH, I dont see the different reasons for thinking Yamato might be scum.

Post a case on me DrH, please do.

Rayn and DrH, can you expand the town reads on gumshoe?


So guys VE is scum and you should be voting for him.
His first post is totally fluff. And is constructed as being useful. Scum have hard time making first post cause it feels weird. This post feels weird.
On July 16 2013 12:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys! I'm going to be keeping a running tally of my posts to try and remind myself that I can't spam in this game as I'm wont to do.

Feel free to PM me though, because though the mods can remove my ability to spam the thread, they cannot remove my desire to allow my thoughts on players and their motives to freeflow...though with as many superior scumhunters as are in this game, I wouldn't be surprised or offended if you don't. Just throwing that out there.

I will say that I think most players should hold back at least one of their mason choices for past D1. The threat of masoning scum is always there, plus if you just start masoning strong scumhunters you run the risk of them eating it N1. It's probably just best practice to mason people you trust, and though you might think that goes without saying people play this game in a really weird way sometimes.


He then votes for DrH with horrible reasoning and then, he says it was a ploy. Nice backtracking there, making a story to cover up your really fucking bad post. I dont buy it. Especially cause he then calls out 3 people which seem to have little to none connection with his vote on DrH, especially Malango who hasnt even mentioned his name the whole game AFAIK.
Its a cover up for lurker lynching. Scum VE loves to lynch Lurkers..

He then wastes a post calling out 3 out of like 7 lurkers in the game so far and it isnt even part of another post.

He says he is suspicious of Wiggles for not really being useful, but is taking a wait and see approach, doing NOTHING to engage Wiggles or even try and start a conversation to determine his alignment. He also donates posts cause its a townie thing to do most of the time.


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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 17 2013 01:58 GMT
#301
Any good player should know that meta is subject to WIFOM and is nearly always meaningless.
Marv owes me a post.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 17 2013 14:47 GMT
#351
Marv, can I have a post?

Also whos scum?

I have like 7 posts left I think.

Also SnB, if I aint scum, who is?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 17 2013 17:34 GMT
#359
Im going to sleep.
I masoned VE and this is the message chain.

+ Show Spoiler +
]never mind im retarded.
Im currently going that you are town because its cool to be town.
Ok so kholly, Malongo and Wiggles.
How sure are you that kholly is Chez? I thought he was town cause new player and too retarded. If hes chez, that changes. huh.

Do you have a read on hapa?




Original Message From VisceraEyes:
You have no points on me. All of the points you raised aren't alignment indicative, all you did was summarize my play and say "SOOO SCUM" when, in fact, I did those things and I'm town.

I'm not even going to put any effort into convincing you - this is your dime, not mine. I'm spending time PMing with the people I'VE chosen. If you want this to not be a waste of your mason, you need to just drop the bullshit and ask me questions pertaining to the game - I'm not going to waste any more effort trying to dispel your ridiculous suspicion.

Also I'm not angry - I'm speaking sternly because I want you to listen. If you're town, you've got higher hats than mine to convince.

Hide nested quote -
Original Message From Oatsmaster:
Its not a waste if you can convince me that you are town. Then we win game cause scum dunno about secret pm convos.

So whats wrong with my points on you?
Also, you really dont need to be angry

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
So you wasted one of your PM choices just to tell me that I'm totes scum?

Well not only are you wrong, but you're an idiot for doing that. So idiotic in fact that you couldn't possibly be scum, so I guess there's that. Maybe if you dispense with the "U SO SCUM BRO" bullshit maybe this won't be a total waste for you, but as it stands you can get fucked before I'll discuss shit with you.

Original Message From Oatsmaster:
no im willfully breaking the rules and am willing to get banned just to chat with you.

what do you think?


Original Message From VisceraEyes:
Is this a sanctioned PM?

Original Message From Oatsmaster:
hey dude hows it going?
you totes scum in that sicilian game man
Are you following the newbie game?


He never replied after I asked him to expand on his own reads. I think this is scum VE. Totes. Why wouldnt town VE want to engage in conversation with me? Scum VE doesnt cause he is scared he slips or something.

So yeah.

Everyone better talk about this or I will be sad
##give Rayn: 5 posts
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 18 2013 03:33 GMT
#535
I wanna quote something from palmar but Im too lazy.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 18 2013 08:03 GMT
#545
Marv is town. Game is good.

Vivax, can you actually expand on your post? Or do you just wanna lynch lurkers?

Also thoughts on Yamato? Im thinking he might be scum cause gut says so.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 18 2013 17:24 GMT
#572
Ace doesnt play like shit as scum.


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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 19 2013 02:34 GMT
#628
Im feeling that Vivax is fake tunneling marv this game as opposed to other games because HE KNOWS that we think when he goes insane he is town
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 19 2013 03:24 GMT
#636
Why didnt marv or DrH die. Wtf.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 20 2013 04:13 GMT
#779
##vote FT

MZ is totes mafia!
Why? Mafia knows Ace had kp and thought that he totally wasnt town.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 20 2013 11:04 GMT
#796
How the fuck is MZ a dick?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 21 2013 04:06 GMT
#864
Well.
Rayn wtf was that?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 22 2013 05:58 GMT
#941
Vivax stopped calling marv scum, why do you disagree with that DrH?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 23 2013 07:53 GMT
#996
I have been really really bad at this game and I apologize.

I wanna sheep vivax and lynch MZ. Unless kp is reduced with sloosh's death, I dont see why scum would use that role. I DUNNO.

ok lynch sloosh, fuck wifom.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 23 2013 09:22 GMT
#998
On July 23 2013 18:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Am I really worth killing? I'm just trying to stay out of the way, since vayne doesn't need vets I'm waiting to be dazzled by his scum hunting brilliance

Worth killing? What?
How in the world are you a commodity?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 23 2013 09:31 GMT
#1000
sheep vivax = not lynch dudes he said.
lynch MZ.

2 different things not clear in my post. I apologize.

Thoughts on MZ marv?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 23 2013 16:31 GMT
#1005
Me too.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 24 2013 00:11 GMT
#1038
What MZ? What?
Why cant marv be 3P?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 24 2013 00:14 GMT
#1040
what dayvig?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 24 2013 00:16 GMT
#1042
wasnt that nightvig?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 24 2013 00:24 GMT
#1045
This is a closed setup

Rayn, how am I scum?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 24 2013 02:23 GMT
#1052
sickkkkkk.
MZ, you still havent said why you think there are no 3Ps.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 24 2013 02:23 GMT
#1053
SnB next I agree.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 24 2013 04:38 GMT
#1057
On July 24 2013 13:01 strongandbig wrote:
Checking before bed and I see this shit

Why would I PM ace before shooting him. Then he might be able to stop me.

stop you how exactly?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 24 2013 12:48 GMT
#1078
Lets lynch MZ and see.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 24 2013 14:47 GMT
#1083
Its not hard to see that Marv is town.

So far I havent really been wrong about that.
I hard defended Ace without even talking about him in nuclear.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 24 2013 15:05 GMT
#1085
Not masoned
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 24 2013 15:13 GMT
#1087
talking about doesnt = talking to. Its night, and Im almost outta posts by now.

Read his filter, does this marv have an agenda? Does this marv not care who gets lynched? Does this marv have bad pushes?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 25 2013 02:48 GMT
#1128
Im guessing the layabout was a blue snipe or there is scum in the chain of PM people.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 25 2013 03:49 GMT
#1136
On July 25 2013 12:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im guessing the layabout was a blue snipe or there is scum in the chain of PM people.

yeah, you.

Or not me, but lets just assume that Im scum for undisclosed reasons shall we..

MZ, why should we lynch Marv and not you?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 25 2013 04:04 GMT
#1138
A 24 player game with 1 scum kp? You have got to be kidding me.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 25 2013 08:09 GMT
#1145
Well, I dunno, scum might have a rolecop or something, layabout might have told someone else.

Seriously MZ, you dont give a fuck about staying alive huh.
Die then, or CONVINCE ME.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 25 2013 09:01 GMT
#1148
MZ looks way better than Marv? Are you out of your fucking mind?

Im thinking you are scum now.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 25 2013 09:42 GMT
#1153
Ok guys, 1 job. Read MZ's and Marv's filter. Vote for the scummiest one.

Thats an interesting theory Korynne.

Rayn has also stopped talking to me, less than 1 pm a day so its not like Im not responding to him and I dont understand how his read on me changed.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 26 2013 02:19 GMT
#1181
Why the fuck would marv as sk shoot someone he is pushing?
Isnt it better to just keep pushing kholly and shoot another scumread? There are 4 scum left, lotta targets man.
Its really bad play as SK. Does marv suck at the game?
I dont think so.

Vayne, how do you not see the shot on someone obviously town as a scumclaim. there was no explanation. #yolo is not a good answer. town SnB doesnt #yolo.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 26 2013 02:42 GMT
#1183
Oh please, rayn said what you said earlier. But it makes no sense to kill your top scumread that you were pushing in thread. As sk, would you have done that?

SnB is giving many bad shits here. I think the whole scumteam might not have posted since he has been brought up, so no they arent bussing. Ace posting random stuff is such a fucking town tell.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 26 2013 03:30 GMT
#1186
Wiggles scum, not even reading the thread.

Marv has another check showing him to be the same alignment as FT
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 26 2013 03:41 GMT
#1190
Cause probably framed Vayne.

Wiggles, are you horrible?
Layabout is DEAD.


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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 26 2013 04:52 GMT
#1192
I would really like more posts, but I AM THE COP(parity cop).

So I checked FT day 1 and marv day 3 and no one day 2 cause Im bad at mafia.

If you say im fakeclaiming, well, guess what? You scumclaimed bro.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 26 2013 05:21 GMT
#1194
I agree with marv now that MZ is probably town cause of his cockiness.

town/3p/scum are different alignments.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 26 2013 05:25 GMT
#1196
Framer
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 26 2013 05:28 GMT
#1198
On July 26 2013 14:26 Korynne wrote:
You trust your read more than a cop claim. You trust that there's a framer and somehow they managed to frame the right person? Wow, you're crazy.

Well yes I trust my read more than blue roles because blue's are known to not always be accurate.

Also marv or MZ were probably checks and therefore frame targets.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 26 2013 05:49 GMT
#1200
On July 26 2013 14:32 Korynne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 14:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 26 2013 14:26 Korynne wrote:
You trust your read more than a cop claim. You trust that there's a framer and somehow they managed to frame the right person? Wow, you're crazy.

Well yes I trust my read more than blue roles because blue's are known to not always be accurate.

Also marv or MZ were probably checks and therefore frame targets.


Yeah if there even is a framer. I'm sorry, give that like Wiggles said we're at MYLO I'm not willing to lynch based on your hunch.

You think both Marv AND MZ look clean?

Yes thats right.

Korynne, there are 4 scum left, even if one of MZ and Marv is scum, there are 3 other scum.

What makes you so sure that SnB is town?
Wiggles is probably scum btw, do you think he is town?

I mean, do you have the strongest scum read on MZ outside the check out of everyone in the game?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 26 2013 07:21 GMT
#1204
On July 26 2013 16:16 Korynne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 16:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Are we honestly not voting for either me or marv? Marv is confirmed scum for me and either of us should be confirmed scum for everyone else.


Yeah, apparently town is dumb enough to be like, look at me, all high and mighty, my read is so good we're going to value that above the detective claims.

Yes we are going to do that cause I dont want to gamble the game on a possible framer as opposed to someone who I think is CONFIRMED FUCKING SCUM.

You must be the scum going all in on this then, cause you know they are both town and you dont care which one gets lynched.

So MZ, what do you say?

Currently evidence shows that either there is a framer or you are scum.
You want to vote for someone other than marv, like SnB?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 26 2013 07:39 GMT
#1206
On July 26 2013 16:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 13:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
I would really like more posts, but I AM THE COP(parity cop).

So I checked FT day 1 and marv day 3 and no one day 2 cause Im bad at mafia.

If you say im fakeclaiming, well, guess what? You scumclaimed bro.

oats this is like the worst claim I've ever seen.

Seriously this is criminally bad. If you're actually town you win the award for worst parity cop of all time.

But I don't think you're bad town. Someone said this was mylo, all scum has to do is force a mislynch. Currently people want to kill marv over me so scum need to step up and make a bold move such as, idk, fake claiming to throw dirt on the reads of a fucking FLIPPED parity cop. Whip up a fake claim, throw in a little WIFOM, mix some setup speculation in with that and boom! Perfect conditions for that final mislynch you need to win the game.

So no I don't believe your claim and you'll be lynched tomorrow after marv flips scum.

Also fucking look at Marv's defense, he isn't even trying lol.


WHIP UP THAT FAKECLAIM.

why dont I claim the d2 result as a dead dude then?
like why fakeclaim that I didnt check on day 2.


Also, I cant force you to believe my claim but, why not claim like normal cop or whatever?
Why fakeclaim a role that has already flipped?


Also I already said one of you dudes got framed, why do you not BELIEVE ME.

Think about all the claims you have seen, which one does this look like? Incompetent town or scum?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 26 2013 07:39 GMT
#1207
MZ, you arent even trying either.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 26 2013 07:48 GMT
#1209
On July 26 2013 16:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I don't believe you because I look at marv and see resigned scum rather than townie fighting a mislynch. There is a difference between marv and I. I'm happy to die to prove him scum, he's resigned to die and isn't gonna do amything to prevent it.

Marv looks like scum about to die not town.

Its mylo dude.
If you dying means town lose, are you happy?
Currently you are going to die so yeah....


Also, wanna lynch SnB?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 26 2013 08:15 GMT
#1211
On July 26 2013 17:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 16:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 26 2013 16:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I don't believe you because I look at marv and see resigned scum rather than townie fighting a mislynch. There is a difference between marv and I. I'm happy to die to prove him scum, he's resigned to die and isn't gonna do amything to prevent it.

Marv looks like scum about to die not town.

Its mylo dude.
If you dying means town lose, are you happy?
Currently you are going to die so yeah....


Also, wanna lynch SnB?

No I wanna lynch the dead DT's scum check, aka marv.

but do you really think marv is scum?
Blue roles are great and all, but sometimes, its NOT ENOUGH.

Im gonna need posts so this is my last post for a while.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 26 2013 08:35 GMT
#1213
ok seriously last post.

I masoned marv.

logs
+ Show Spoiler +
marvellosity: aight
Oatsmaster: yo
Oatsmaster: so you sk?
marvellosity: -.-
marvellosity: who did I shoot last night, if i was?
Oatsmaster: lol
Oatsmaster: i have no idea
Oatsmaster:
marvellosity: serious question
Oatsmaster: but rayn says kohlly
Oatsmaster: and im inclined to agree
marvellosity: so I shot my main scumtarget of the game, running the risk that I look terrible if he flips town?
Oatsmaster: so do you think there is an sk in this game?
marvellosity: sounds genius
Oatsmaster: yes marv
Oatsmaster: exactly
marvellosity: I'll tell you for free
marvellosity: I'm not an idiot
marvellosity: which should instantly discount that theory
Oatsmaster: oh?
marvellosity: i'd bet on there not being an SK
marvellosity: can't be sure thouhg
Oatsmaster: also scum kp is 1?
Oatsmaster: that seems really weird
marvellosity: scum KP is almost certainly not 1
marvellosity: it's probably 2 i guess
marvellosity: which means a shot on n1 is unaccounted for
Oatsmaster: right
Oatsmaster: so like joat>
Oatsmaster: ?
Oatsmaster: or why wouldnt the dude claim?
marvellosity: maybe joat
marvellosity: maybe multi-shot
marvellosity: joat seems more likely i guess
Oatsmaster: yeah
Oatsmaster: hmm
Oatsmaster: so koshi scum
Oatsmaster: y/n?
marvellosity: na
marvellosity: although
Oatsmaster: but that post
Oatsmaster: so scum
marvellosity: with layabout and kholly being town
marvellosity: it means there's scum in ppl i had as town before
Oatsmaster: OR YOU ARE SCUM!
Oatsmaster: nah
marvellosity: shrug
marvellosity: can't be bothered to argue against the stupid this game
Oatsmaster: dont have enough posts to argue against stupid
marvellosity: and that
marvellosity: I do tend to post massively when i'm raging against stupidity
marvellosity: pretty sure i overposted in the night cycle
Oatsmaster: ok
Oatsmaster: im parity cop btw
Oatsmaster: game unbalanced
Oatsmaster: checked you and FT
marvellosity: lol
marvellosity: wat
Oatsmaster: yeah
marvellosity: what night did you check?
marvellosity: n1?
Oatsmaster: n1 and n3
Oatsmaster: im bad at nightactions
marvellosity: hmm
marvellosity: i'm running under the theory that i was framed some night
marvellosity: what were the results?
Oatsmaster: man
Oatsmaster: so scummy
Oatsmaster: ok
marvellosity: ?
marvellosity: stop being fucking dumb
Oatsmaster: SAME
Oatsmaster: too dumb to be scum?
marvellosity: no, just too dumb
marvellosity: same, interesting
marvellosity: wait
marvellosity: day 4 today right?
Oatsmaster: yup
Oatsmaster: so either you got framed n2, or MZ is SCUM
marvellosity: so layabout would have got his check from n2
marvellosity: yeah
Oatsmaster: i havent got back from RoL whether 3P return as town
marvellosity: if MZ is mafia I'll be really sad
Oatsmaster: why?
Oatsmaster: his filter is shit btw
marvellosity: because his filter is shit
marvellosity: he was such a cock early in the game
Oatsmaster: ah ok
marvellosity: feels so dirty to play that way as mafia
marvellosity: it's *almost* dick-move analysis, but not quite
Oatsmaster: i dont knowf
Oatsmaster: feels like a lotta reaction posting
Oatsmaster: like i did in nuclear
Oatsmaster: and no like objective
marvellosity: lemme find
marvellosity: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414884&currentpage=29#577
marvellosity: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414884&currentpage=31#605
marvellosity: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414884&currentpage=31#610
marvellosity: shit like that
Oatsmaster: mebbe
Oatsmaster: how do parity cops work?
Oatsmaster: compare to your last target right?
marvellosity: just a lot of being sarcastic and calling people bad for no reason
Oatsmaster: yeah
marvellosity: shrug
Oatsmaster: you wanna kill snb and wigglesa?
marvellosity: maybe he would do that as mafia
marvellosity: i think s&b is the best bet
marvellosity: still not sure on wiggles
Oatsmaster: well he also had chats with rayn
marvellosity: Adam is mafia I think.
Oatsmaster: like pm conversations
Oatsmaster: oh really?
Oatsmaster: why/how?
marvellosity: yeah
marvellosity: he's just afked
Oatsmaster: where has he been?
marvellosity: no idea
Oatsmaster: afked isnt a scumtell dumbo
marvellosity: yes it is
marvellosity: certainly for adam
Oatsmaster: his chats with you were not very alignment indicative?
marvellosity: not particularly
Oatsmaster: well like intermittent posting sure, but absolutely nothing?
Oatsmaster: nah thats not really good
marvellosity: ?
Oatsmaster: like
Oatsmaster: im inclined to think its some irl thing
Oatsmaster: if he didnt post for 24 hours
marvellosity: that's nice
marvellosity: i've known adam and played with him for a year
marvellosity: have you?
Oatsmaster: but if he posted like 5-6 posts in that period about nothing
Oatsmaster: then possiblt
Oatsmaster: I have played with adam in like 5/6 games
Oatsmaster: all town I think
marvellosity: right
marvellosity: so you have no idea
Oatsmaster: so go and explain how total absence is a scumtell for adam.
marvellosity: it doesn't matter today
marvellosity: s&b is a better lynch
Oatsmaster: come on
marvellosity: see if adam comes back before he gets modkilled
Oatsmaster: tell me about it anywaya
Oatsmaster: then I can meta him in future games
marvellosity: eh
marvellosity: he just hates playing mafia
marvellosity: if he can get away with not posting, he will
Oatsmaster: lol
Oatsmaster: and you cant really use posts to pressure him
Oatsmaster: man this game is godo for scum,
marvellosity: i'm not certain he's mafia, but there's a decent chance at this stage
Oatsmaster: is kush alive?
Oatsmaster: kush replaced out right?
marvellosity: lol
marvellosity: no
Oatsmaster: dude OP isnt updated
marvellosity: try reading the thread
marvellosity: that would help
Oatsmaster: naw
Oatsmaster: so whats in kush's slot?
marvellosity: ???
Oatsmaster: is he dead/replaced?
Oatsmaster: or is he just not really posting
marvellosity: he's alive
marvellosity: don't ask me retarded questions oats, it's really irritating
Oatsmaster: hows lunch?
marvellosity: lunchy
Oatsmaster: descriptive
Oatsmaster: i dont really wanna ask you about node
Oatsmaster: but I really wanna know
marvellosity: node is adam possibly?
marvellosity: yeah tbh i keep getting confused about the replacements as well
marvellosity: that sounds right
Oatsmaster: yeah ok
Oatsmaster: RoL so lazy
marvellosity: Ver really
marvellosity: it is indeed annoying
Oatsmaster: 2 scum left
Oatsmaster: um 4 scum
Oatsmaster: SnB/adam/Wiggles
Oatsmaster: im thinking vayne or koshi
marvellosity: they both seem quite town to me
Oatsmaster: so then whos the alst one?
marvellosity: i've no idea
Oatsmaster: ...
Oatsmaster: speculate
marvellosity: no
Oatsmaster:
marvellosity: god there's not enough players
marvellosity: i guess anyone could be mafia
Oatsmaster: lol
Oatsmaster: including me?
Oatsmaster:
marvellosity: sorry :p
marvellosity: yeah
Oatsmaster: haha
Oatsmaster: man you suck at reading lynchbait vs scum
marvellosity: get lost oats
Oatsmaster: so far
Oatsmaster: 2/2
Oatsmaster: haha
Oatsmaster: do you still have a mason?
marvellosity: kush and adam
Oatsmaster: you masoned kush
Oatsmaster: lolol
marvellosity: naw
marvellosity: he masoned me
marvellosity: so did adam for that matter
marvellosity: maybe he's not scum
Oatsmaster: i meant like of the 2 you start with
Oatsmaster: so when a dude masons you he is town
Oatsmaster: well so far thats been 3/3
marvellosity: not necessarily
Oatsmaster: well maybe not
Oatsmaster: if adam is scum
marvellosity: but if anyone can read Adam, I can
Oatsmaster: which I really dont think so
marvellosity: he's just not given me a chance too
Oatsmaster: you are reading adam's disappearence man
marvellosity: yeah
marvellosity: chances are that's scummy
marvellosity: but it's not certain
Oatsmaster: maybe
marvellosity: 2:1 odds maybe
Oatsmaster: that hes scum cause of that
Oatsmaster: thats good odds
marvellosity: yeah
marvellosity: and because looking at the playerlist
marvellosity: finding 4 mafia is hard
Oatsmaster: maybe
Oatsmaster: i think we kill snb and wiggles
Oatsmaster: and leave active players till later
marvellosity: mm
marvellosity: i'll check s&b's filter later
marvellosity: see if he's actually hunted any mafia or if he's just complained about being called mafia
Oatsmaster: probably not
Oatsmaster: there is like 0 reasosn to shoot ace though
Oatsmaster: i wouldnt have even shot ace
marvellosity: yeah
marvellosity: that was terrible
marvellosity: yeah s&b hasn't done anything
Oatsmaster: ok
Oatsmaster: gong to push that tmr i guess
Oatsmaster: should I disclose that I masoned you>?
marvellosity: if you like
marvellosity: you should save the logs
marvellosity: i closed your window at some point out of annoyance so i lost most of them :p
Oatsmaster: haha
Oatsmaster: yeah I should
Oatsmaster: yeah snb so scum
marvellosity: mm
Oatsmaster: compulsive
Oatsmaster: lol
marvellosity:


So marv has been useful in Pms at least.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 26 2013 11:16 GMT
#1222
On July 26 2013 20:02 Koshi wrote:
Oats:
I have no idea about you. You seem to like the SnB lynch? You seem to think Marv is good for this town? You don't want to put too much weight in the layabout claim because of Framer, but you are really confident in your own results about FT/Marv, you don't think Marv could be godfather or be framed to look town?

I am currently still on the SnB-marv-Oats lynch. You seem to think I am scummy? Pressure me. Tell me why.
fuckkkkkkkkkk.

I have both town reads on MZ and Marv.
I have results that show Marv being town.

There is a difference in alignments between MZ and Marv as shown by layabouts check. I think either MZ or marv was framed n2. I think its incredibly unlikely that marv was framed n3 cause there was already a flipped parity cop and marv was unlikely to be checked.

Marv cannot be godfather.

Marv is incredibly good for this town.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 26 2013 14:27 GMT
#1230
On July 26 2013 23:20 strongandbig wrote:
Oats fakeclaiming.

Two parity cops is way more unlikely than three town vigs.

Why check firmtofu night one as parity cop? He was neither clear town nor (as of n1) likely to be flipped anytime soon, that was well before anyone started listening to drh. Checking him wouldn't resolve his alignment (obviously) nor would it give a good basis for knowing the alignment of future checks. Oats just picked someone suspicious who had flipped without thinking like a parity cop

(Also even if oats is telling the truth, ft was a way more reasonable frame than mz night one, since ft was a great target for a normal cop, but a terrible one for a parity cop. Either way you look at it layabouts check is way more reliable than this oats bs)

Fakeclaiming at lylo for the win when we have a check from a confirmed and flipped cop. And you sheep are gonna fall for it. Humorously bad claim.

"Forgot to check night two" is a good one though, I'll have to remember that.

so why would I claim parity cop if Im scum SnB?
If its way more unlikely.
I was 7 minutes late and i fapping about.
FT turned out to be good huh.

I dont see how layabouts check is way more reliable than mine at all. Assuming we avoid that he is flipped parity cop.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 26 2013 14:33 GMT
#1235
Can all of you use your fucking brains and explain why the fuck we(scumteam) would need to fakeclaim an already claimed role in order to lynch Snb?
Why not push him. Why not claim a detective check on SnB? WHY THE FUCK WOULD WE DO IT IN THE MOST SUSPICIOUS FUCKING WAY POSSIBLE.
WHAT THE FUCK GUYS.

WHAT.
THE.
FUCK.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 27 2013 04:13 GMT
#1283
Wiggles next.

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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 03 2013 14:13 GMT
#1774
Oats started blaming me for not wanting to talk with him when i tried to contact him many times but the timezones did not just fit


I dunno rayn, maybe its because you blamed me first?
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