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Edit: just read the thread, can we please have post restrictions back? If you don't like it, don't play it. It seems to me that there are several people signed up for whom the post restrictions were a plus not a negative.
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/in Edit: just read the thread, can we please have post restrictions back? If you don't like it, don't play it. It seems to me that there are several people signed up for whom the post restrictions were a plus not a negative. | ||
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Also yamato's last post was absolutely horrible. I will probably use both my masons D1 on people who I feel are town. I'm going to bed now. | ||
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Also fuck I wanted to mason rayn, glad he's basically confirmed town though. | ||
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On July 16 2013 22:43 gumshoe wrote: In regards to pms, what does mafia learn by knowing whose pming who? Absolutely nothing, the whole point of pms is that mafia can no longer benefit from certain discussions in any way. Unless scum is being pmed in which case they already know and are already privy to the conversation. How is knowing whose communicating with who more useful for scum then town? If town knows they can co-ordinate a chain, ie I mason D.H then D.H chains oats and oats can pm me through the intermediately (oats mentioned everything one pming him making him the universal intermediatery but thats dumb, and risky). Naturally though the chain requires trust like all things but when done right it allows a certain degree of thread coordination. The only threat of being open is mafia disrupting pm relationships. This is actually a bit of a problem seeing as we only get one pm, which is why I suggest not mass masoning D.H or someone else, if you must pm an intermediatery you trust. On July 17 2013 03:27 gumshoe wrote: . If you are unsure of what to do with your PM's and therefore do not mason, don't listen to slOosh, he should know better. Mason me and i'll tell you what to do. FFS you can ask your mason partner how you should use your PM's, and tell the thread what he said. Be creative and not fall into this dumb "i'm so bad in off-thread comm, i ignore it" bullshit. I will lynch you if you ignore it, because off thread comm helps town more than it helps mafia. It gives the town opportunity to make plans and catch scum in different ways. And don't give that bullshit "what if you mason mafia or are wrong about your read". That'll come clear eventually, or you out your logs and someone else might be able to see it. TLDR; Everyone needs to mason 2 people, not necessarily at the start of the game. If you dont know what to do with PM's, mason me. Masoning one person is bad unless its you amirite gumshoe? | ||
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On July 17 2013 11:42 VisceraEyes wrote: I think in that second quote you attributed one of Rayn's quotes to gumshoe didn't you MZ? Kinda cornfusing because of the quotefail in there, but I think it was Rayn who said that sir. Read his filter my dear friend, you will find both quotes are correctly attributed. | ||
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like very terribad. VE gets lynched for doing dumb shit like this all the time, as for FT I really have no idea what you people think is scummy about him. Try again boo boo. | ||
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I really have not followed this game closely so I was looking to see if there were any slam dunk cases that had already been figured out. | ||
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On July 18 2013 11:54 gumshoe wrote: Malongo, somebody XD vote meapak, lynching Ve is a bad idea, meapak is a terrible lurker whose contributed nothing, and ve will resolve himself or we can lynch him tommorow, please don't kill our day vig until we know he's not our day vig. Also meapak wouldn't mason me because he thought I wrote something that Rayne wrote XD that dick. I'm holding out to see is sandroba appears and I want to hold a mason in reserve. You're first one the list if he doesn't show up bbz. | ||
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On July 18 2013 12:06 gumshoe wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2013 11:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 18 2013 11:54 gumshoe wrote: Malongo, somebody XD vote meapak, lynching Ve is a bad idea, meapak is a terrible lurker whose contributed nothing, and ve will resolve himself or we can lynch him tommorow, please don't kill our day vig until we know he's not our day vig. Also meapak wouldn't mason me because he thought I wrote something that Rayne wrote XD that dick. I'm holding out to see is sandroba appears and I want to hold a mason in reserve. You're first one the list if he doesn't show up bbz. I'm holding you to that, also what do you think of knolls ninja vote off you? If it wasn't for him your be dead right now instead if ve. I haven't looked at the voting thread since I voted, did I really have that many votes? lol... | ||
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I'm not falling for that one twice in as many weeks. | ||
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On July 19 2013 03:16 Ace wrote: I'm not getting lynched this game MZ. I'm gonna live till the end. When you troll and do crazy shit on purpose you get kept around. Play serious and logical - catch flak from morons. I'm actually a huge believer in this. I'm tempted to burn a PM with you so we can talk about how bad people are without their prying eyes but I already promised gumshoe (I think) a PM and I wanna keep a spare. | ||
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I for one would much rather lynch sloosh than FT | ||
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On July 19 2013 14:32 Ace wrote: I read it upside down. no idea. Pfffft I've known since this post. That's why I was dissapointed. | ||
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On July 20 2013 02:02 kushm4sta wrote: what is this great ft case everyone is referring to? the meta one drh did? cause that is improper use of meta. Ace fake claimed cop with a red check on FT because he don't give a fuck. | ||
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On July 20 2013 08:58 kholly wrote: After much discussion in PMs, it was decided that I should post the following: Vivax was checked last night. He is mafia. Damn this town is just brimming with detectives. I checked Ace like I said I was going to and got SK | ||
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Literally the last couple posts have melted my brain in terms of their idiocy. | ||
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On July 20 2013 11:35 Ace wrote: Just let Tofu troll himself to death. "lynch ace so we know if MZ is lying, even though Ace already admitted to lying" hahahahahahahaha Hey Ace, promise not to kill me tonight with your KP? | ||
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On July 20 2013 12:45 kholly wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2013 12:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Fuck the one person who was actually paying attention :/ Were you talking to Ace... before he died? *cries* What was his last words to you? No we were just shootin the shit in the thread. I still can't believe people are as dumb as they are. But I'll just say the FirmTofu needs to die, maybe that will get people on a slightly better track. | ||
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On July 17 2013 11:54 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I didn't think I would have to say this, but using things outside the game to try to determine each others alignment is against the rules and the spirit of the game. An example would be trying to use a role PM to determine someones alignment. If someone tries doing this through PM let me know. This will not be a warning, it will result in a direct modkill and ban request. I don't tolerate unsportsmanlike conduct. If you have a doubt whether or not something is legitimate or not feel free to PM me, but I would err on the side of caution. If you have to question whether you can do it, you probably shouldn't be doing it. ooops FT | ||
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There's no SK, it's in the OP. FT's reaction to my "check" was waaay too off for me. | ||
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And korynne you kinda missed the point but whatever. No I was not in PM contact with Ace, that's fairly obvious from reading the thread. | ||
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I'm personally a fan of the scum list FT came up with. I was before and although my faith wavered when he went full retard, now that he's dead and flipped my faith in it has been restored. | ||
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On July 22 2013 08:29 VayneAuthority wrote: Show nested quote + On July 22 2013 08:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Poor vayne, if he was a townie he'd realize why his last few posts make zero sense but alas, a scum mind cannot fathom some things I guess. Yea and if you took rayn's ballsack out of your mouth you would see why he is scum. Fucking dumbass. You're adorable | ||
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On July 23 2013 14:44 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Down like funky town. Pardoner really screws everything up. Hopefully Sloosh is scum, which I believe he is, but if he's not, it's probably gg. Here goes nothing. where you been brah? | ||
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July 23 2013 17:26 GMT
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On July 24 2013 00:18 Koshi wrote: Problem is that without seeing flips I am stuck on these guys. It would surprise me if I would be correct on all these names, but I got a good feeling. SloOsh SnB marvellosity layabout Oatsmaster/MG/VA You can consider adding Wiggles to the list. afk wiggles is usually scum wiggles. | ||
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July 24 2013 00:01 GMT
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Sloosh today marv tomorrow. Actually if the jubjubs want to lynch me tomorrow I'll be fine provided you lynch marv the next day. | ||
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July 24 2013 00:16 GMT
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I see it as much more likely scum are trying to get marv "confirmed" as sloosh goes down. | ||
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July 24 2013 02:21 GMT
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Or a great vigi shot. Or vigi shoot me to confirm marv as scum if you think I'm scum. | ||
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July 24 2013 08:10 GMT
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July 24 2013 08:16 GMT
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July 24 2013 17:32 GMT
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Oats should probably be the day after that given his defense of marv. | ||
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July 24 2013 17:43 GMT
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On July 25 2013 02:36 VayneAuthority wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2013 02:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: We can lynch me as long as we lynch marv the next day. Oats should probably be the day after that given his defense of marv. idk what this means really, with that additional modkill we are running out of time so it would be better if you could defend yourself instead of just giving us an ultimatum. Lynching correctly between you and marv will probably decide the outcome of this game, so some help here please. Its 13 VS 4 and killing marv will drop KP. We have room to mislynch me. | ||
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July 24 2013 18:10 GMT
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July 24 2013 18:11 GMT
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July 24 2013 18:25 GMT
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On July 25 2013 03:13 VayneAuthority wrote: I read the OP it just says closed setup besides 6 mafia and a traitor. So you are saying that Marv/sloosh fabricated those logs to make us think that there is an SK when there isn't? Yeah I think that's likely. And even if Marv is somehow an SK, killing him will still drop KP. | ||
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July 25 2013 00:45 GMT
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On July 25 2013 09:41 kushm4sta wrote: MZ HOW THE FUCK IS MARV SCUM PLZ ANSER Well I'm town so unless rayn's cop is lying that makes marv scum. Not rocket science. | ||
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On July 25 2013 10:09 kushm4sta wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2013 09:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 25 2013 09:41 kushm4sta wrote: MZ HOW THE FUCK IS MARV SCUM PLZ ANSER Well I'm town so unless rayn's cop is lying that makes marv scum. Not rocket science. but in that case why wouldn't you assume he is sk? it's just that if sloosh and marv are on a scumteam together, that log marv posted is the craziest scum mindfuck ive ever seen Because I don't think there is an sk in the game. Or maybe he is. Either way I'm town so he can die. | ||
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July 25 2013 03:30 GMT
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July 25 2013 07:23 GMT
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On July 25 2013 12:49 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2013 12:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 25 2013 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote: Im guessing the layabout was a blue snipe or there is scum in the chain of PM people. yeah, you. Or not me, but lets just assume that Im scum for undisclosed reasons shall we.. MZ, why should we lynch Marv and not you? I'm town and marv is not. I'll die to prove this if that's the easiest way. | ||
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July 26 2013 07:31 GMT
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On July 26 2013 13:52 Oatsmaster wrote: I would really like more posts, but I AM THE COP(parity cop). So I checked FT day 1 and marv day 3 and no one day 2 cause Im bad at mafia. If you say im fakeclaiming, well, guess what? You scumclaimed bro. oats this is like the worst claim I've ever seen. Seriously this is criminally bad. If you're actually town you win the award for worst parity cop of all time. But I don't think you're bad town. Someone said this was mylo, all scum has to do is force a mislynch. Currently people want to kill marv over me so scum need to step up and make a bold move such as, idk, fake claiming to throw dirt on the reads of a fucking FLIPPED parity cop. Whip up a fake claim, throw in a little WIFOM, mix some setup speculation in with that and boom! Perfect conditions for that final mislynch you need to win the game. So no I don't believe your claim and you'll be lynched tomorrow after marv flips scum. Also fucking look at Marv's defense, he isn't even trying lol. | ||
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July 26 2013 07:47 GMT
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Marv looks like scum about to die not town. | ||
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July 26 2013 08:14 GMT
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On July 26 2013 16:48 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2013 16:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I don't believe you because I look at marv and see resigned scum rather than townie fighting a mislynch. There is a difference between marv and I. I'm happy to die to prove him scum, he's resigned to die and isn't gonna do amything to prevent it. Marv looks like scum about to die not town. Its mylo dude. If you dying means town lose, are you happy? Currently you are going to die so yeah.... Also, wanna lynch SnB? No I wanna lynch the dead DT's scum check, aka marv. | ||
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On July 26 2013 17:15 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2013 17:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 26 2013 16:48 Oatsmaster wrote: On July 26 2013 16:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I don't believe you because I look at marv and see resigned scum rather than townie fighting a mislynch. There is a difference between marv and I. I'm happy to die to prove him scum, he's resigned to die and isn't gonna do amything to prevent it. Marv looks like scum about to die not town. Its mylo dude. If you dying means town lose, are you happy? Currently you are going to die so yeah.... Also, wanna lynch SnB? No I wanna lynch the dead DT's scum check, aka marv. but do you really think marv is scum? Blue roles are great and all, but sometimes, its NOT ENOUGH. Im gonna need posts so this is my last post for a while. Look at how marv has acted today. I'd be much more willing to hear you out if marv had at least tried to look town. | ||
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July 27 2013 01:46 GMT
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July 27 2013 05:20 GMT
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Everyone who pushed him is now confirmed town in my eyes. | ||
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On July 28 2013 14:40 Mocsta wrote: (3/25) Wow. Nice pick up on korynne role pm. I just assumed it was applicable to everything. Hmmm rayn does need to address this. Mz is essentially confirmed scum with the parity checks. I would prefer we hunt remaining scum though. please explain how I'm confirmed scum lol | ||
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On July 28 2013 15:32 kushm4sta wrote: Show nested quote + On July 28 2013 15:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 28 2013 14:40 Mocsta wrote: (3/25) Wow. Nice pick up on korynne role pm. I just assumed it was applicable to everything. Hmmm rayn does need to address this. Mz is essentially confirmed scum with the parity checks. I would prefer we hunt remaining scum though. please explain how I'm confirmed scum lol ooo can i? actually anybody is welcome to | ||
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July 28 2013 07:56 GMT
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On July 28 2013 16:19 kushm4sta wrote: ft is same alignment as marv ft is town you are opposite alignment as marv you are not town This logic is flawless, I submit to death. | ||
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July 28 2013 09:32 GMT
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I'm pissed at rayn for not admitting he pardoned sloosh. I guess he's confirmed town though since he couldn't have done it as scum. I owe the people who said there was an sk an apology, I really didn't think there'd be one my bad. | ||
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July 28 2013 19:18 GMT
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July 28 2013 21:58 GMT
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I really wish you'd tell us why you pardoned sloosh rayn. I suggest you lynch marv before wiggles because with my death I think it'll be lylo. Once marv's is gone that'll make things a bit easier. Also I find it ironic we're believing checks now as opposed to yesterday lol. | ||
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July 28 2013 23:14 GMT
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You and FT are Same. You and I are different. I know I am green. The only way for you to be scum is if you're a gf and I got framed or I'm a miller. Fuckit you're right that's too implausible. Let's just lynch me today so we can stop arguing and then lynch wiggles tomorrow. | ||
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July 28 2013 23:17 GMT
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On July 29 2013 08:10 kushm4sta wrote: the sk has a pardon is that not obvious? That's broken as shit if that's the case. Anyway wiggles is one scum, that means we need to find the last two anti town players. If we can all suspend disbelief for a second and assume I'm town, who would be the best candidates for the last two. | ||
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July 28 2013 23:22 GMT
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July 29 2013 07:48 GMT
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Again, occams razor says marv is town so I have to figure out why I am the different one. | ||
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July 29 2013 17:31 GMT
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Koshi you made the argument that scum thought marv was sk. You do realize that this contradicts your logic that sk has a green check since scum claimed to have a check that said marv was sk. | ||
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July 29 2013 17:54 GMT
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On July 30 2013 02:36 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + On July 30 2013 02:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: We're fucking lynching wiggles. Koshi you made the argument that scum thought marv was sk. You do realize that this contradicts your logic that sk has a green check since scum claimed to have a check that said marv was sk. I don't like this one bit. u do nothing most of the cycle, but then choose to pipe up vehemently when your neck is NOT on the noose anymore. ur throwing shit at koshi, when u r misquoting lol. scum had information u and Marv are not the same. they assumed based on play, Marv was SK. I don't like how u r misconstruing this.. in particular after an absence, You must have missed it, sloosh claimed scum had a sk check on marv. A check not a read. Koshi is saying that sk has a green check but is simultaneously using the fact that scum thought marv was sk as part of his reason. Can you really not see how the logic is incompatible. Again, I'm fine with my own lynch, just kill wiggles next and then maybe kush since he's soft defending wiggles. | ||
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July 29 2013 19:52 GMT
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On July 30 2013 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On July 30 2013 04:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Yeah kill kush after wiggles if you lynch me. So marv is not scum any more? Could you people kindly read my filter -_- For the last time no. Marv is not scum, besides I believe I said he was the sk and not scum. The circumstances required for marv to be antitown are too unlikely. ffs I have been pushing wiggles for like two days now. | ||
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July 30 2013 14:58 GMT
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July 30 2013 15:49 GMT
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EVERYONE except for him was sure wiggles was scum, and yet somehow kush had this magical epiphany where wiggles wasn't scum. Despite this he doesn't actually try that hard to prevent wiggles from getting lynched and lynching me instead. Other than worthless oneliners saying things like "lynch the red check" he does nothing to prevent wiggles from getting lynched but it put in a perfect position to say "I told you so" and claim town cred which is precisely what he did. | ||
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July 30 2013 16:41 GMT
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On July 31 2013 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On July 31 2013 00:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I actually still think kush could be scum. EVERYONE except for him was sure wiggles was scum, and yet somehow kush had this magical epiphany where wiggles wasn't scum. Despite this he doesn't actually try that hard to prevent wiggles from getting lynched and lynching me instead. Other than worthless oneliners saying things like "lynch the red check" he does nothing to prevent wiggles from getting lynched but it put in a perfect position to say "I told you so" and claim town cred which is precisely what he did. You should probably shoot him then. I would prefer you shooting Mocsta/marv though. I'm not sk -_- Let me say this again we (town) WILL LOSE if we lynch me tomorrow. Yesterday was your day to kill me, now we can't waste a lynch so I can prove my alignment. | ||
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July 31 2013 02:13 GMT
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July 31 2013 17:37 GMT
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July 31 2013 19:54 GMT
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Actually think about it this way. Scum have to get the SK lynched today. Now I am town so normaly in a situation where there is a "red" check on a townie there will be no disagreement because it's a good way for all parties to appear protown. So with that in mind ask yourself "why is there any resistance to my lynch." This day should have been open and shut, yet there is still debate. Why? The remaining scum knows I'm not the sk and are trying to get the real sk lynched without blowing their cover. The sk is trying to do the same thing. Under normal circumstamces a bad check on a townie is a dream come true for anti town players. Why has this opportunity not been exploited. | ||
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July 31 2013 19:57 GMT
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On August 01 2013 04:55 VayneAuthority wrote: that seems so backwards, you are way more scared of marv than you need to be. If MZ flips SK I will put a lot more thought into marv. He is the much safer lynch here. If we lynch marv and he is town wtf would you do at that point? You still don't know what MZ or koshi is. I don't see why you want to make the really unlikely lynch before the obvious lynch. Think for a second about why someone would be more scared of marv than me. | ||
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July 31 2013 21:34 GMT
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July 31 2013 23:52 GMT
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August 01 2013 00:48 GMT
#1588
On August 01 2013 08:56 VayneAuthority wrote: ill take it seriously but kush pretty much did you in so you'll have to rage at him endgame, sometimes your partners screw you the most lol kush played perfectly and I give him kudos tbh. I didn't realize until after he flipped that his whole schtick was to bus teammates. I'm sure he's having a good laugh in the obs QT. ok I think people are set on my lynch so I'll just give a few last words. I just reread the filters of the living players Marv, I really have no idea if you're sk or not but if you are you deserve the win. Mocsta: Your actions over the past few days make the most logical sense to be scum compared to vayne/koshi but I can't really see it in my head. Vayne and Koshi: while neither of your recent actions fit what I'd expect scum to be doing as much as mocsta has, you both have done some incredibly scummy things. Just know this, one of you is right about the other. Perhaps you both have forgotten but you both spent a lot of time before today calling each other scum and if I'm right about mocsta then one of you is right. Better figure out who. Here are the possible scenarios: 2v1v1 after the lynch. If SK shoots scum and scum shoot, SK, town wins. If SK shoots scum and scum shoots town, SK wins If SK shoots town and scum shoots town, SK wins or its a draw if SK isn't bulletproof (which would be strange). If SK shoots town and scum shoots SK, scum wins or its goes to the next day and the remaining townie is placed into a kingmaker scenario. What does that tell us? SK has a lot of paths to victory, scum has almost no chance of victory. Why do I bring this up? I think the remaining scum should claim because the only way to beat the SK is by getting him lynched TODAY. I would really like to win, my death all but ensures town loses. This situation can be treated as a game and you have to look at what every side's winning move is. Scum's winning move is to kill the SK. However that's been their winning move for three "turns" now and they haven't taken their winning move. This suggests they cannot. SK's winning move is to shoot scum which he has done with impunity a couple of times now. So remaining scum, what do you think is gonna happen tonight? You are gonna die. There's nothing that can prevent the SK from playing his optimal move. You can do a couple of things. You can shoot a townie thus ensuring SK victory, or you can shoot at the SK. You may not kill him, but you will give him a chance of losing. The last thing you could do is reveal yourself now and help the town win. Let me repeat this again. You are not going to win. You have a choice though, you can help us kill the SK, outlive him and take a symbolic "second" place. | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 01 2013 09:07 GMT
#1595
The worst part about DTs is how they destroy town's ability to scum hunt. The remaining scum really should have considered my suggestion, SK's gonna win now so wp (marv probably). Anyone want to end the day early? As a brief note to everyone obsing in the QT. This game is an example of why its paramont for townies to firmly establish their own innocence as well as scum hunt. I didn't do this and never really tried and its losing town the game. Granted none of the other surviving townies ever established their innocence either but the mistake falls on me for getting on the wrong side of a parity check. Had I done better early/mid game this wouldn't be an issue because my alignment would be obvious when compared to marv. Oh well lol. | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 01 2013 09:11 GMT
#1597
On August 01 2013 17:14 Koshi wrote: Well, MZ and you are both saying I am scum while that is close to impossible. If that was true Kush and I could have killed marv over SnB... Why wouldn't we? Also, MZ says that it is VA or me that is the last scum. So that means VA. I could see that... But where is all this proof MZ is talking about? Ask me question, ask my opinion, but I do not know who is last scum/sk. But there is a difference between Marv and MZ and Marv is green so MZ is the most logical lynch. So unless he actually brings the proof, how can we not lynch him? Also his proof that VA/Koshi is scum is based upon the fact VA/Koshi were out for each others blood before? Jeezus. I really don't have a good idea who the last scum is so I'm gonna go with the logical route and say its mocsta. Honestly you and VA should have settled your differences and gotten one or the other lynched earlier in the game because when I went and reread the thread I couldn't use you two to help me read anyone else which was frustrating. | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 01 2013 09:13 GMT
#1598
On August 01 2013 18:11 marvellosity wrote: If you want to convince me, MZ, you'll have to do better than getting my alignment wrong. Try again. If you're not the SK you're about to lose. That's my argument. | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 01 2013 09:13 GMT
#1599
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 01 2013 09:29 GMT
#1602
On August 01 2013 18:16 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On August 01 2013 18:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On August 01 2013 18:11 marvellosity wrote: If you want to convince me, MZ, you'll have to do better than getting my alignment wrong. Try again. If you're not the SK you're about to lose. That's my argument. I'm not, but you're presenting your final argument/defence as something that I know is wrong. If you can't even give me something I can believe in, then it's pretty pointless, isn't it? What am I supposed to give you. The check is wrong? I have no idea maybe it is maybe it isn't. I'm a miller? Maybe but there hasn't been one around in a while. You or I was framed? Yeah I think that's possible. Am I supposed to give you my fantastic contributions? Don't have any of those except I've been right (and was pressuring) most of the flipped scum. Yeah I fucked up with wiggles but so did everyone else and with good reason. People see kush's posting as icing on the cake yet don't bother thinking that maybe, just maybe that was the point. The whole reason behind my "martyring" a couple days ago was specifically to avoid this kind of situation. Whenever I'm town I always offer my own death when it can shed light on a debated alignment. I think you're probably SK because of how many flipped scum have alluded to it and scum don't just collectively push someone without reason. I realistically don't have anything solid to offer. Previously when I've been alive in endgame scenarios the other surviving townies were all very obvious that game with a little bit of poking around. I did a lot more than poke around and still couldn't say for certain who the surviving townies are. So yeah, if you're town and you lynch me you lose. If you're scum and you lynch me you also lose. That's what I offer. Want to end the day early? | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 01 2013 09:31 GMT
#1603
On August 01 2013 18:18 marvellosity wrote: Especially given how long you've been saying how god-damn unlikely it is I'm SK. Sense make not is not make it. You wanna give me some better options? I've yet to see you give one read this whole game. Saying I'm one of your reads is great but its gonna be nothing after I've flipped. | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 01 2013 09:34 GMT
#1606
On August 01 2013 18:32 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On August 01 2013 18:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On August 01 2013 18:18 marvellosity wrote: Especially given how long you've been saying how god-damn unlikely it is I'm SK. Sense make not is not make it. You wanna give me some better options? I've yet to see you give one read this whole game. Saying I'm one of your reads is great but its gonna be nothing after I've flipped. My read is that I think you're scum after kush flipped. And that Mocsta is SK. Think I've been reasonably clear about that one actually. lol wut? Kills have been consistent every night. How can mocsta be SK when he replaced someone who was afk? We'd have had less kills on some nights. | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 01 2013 09:43 GMT
#1610
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 01 2013 09:45 GMT
#1613
On August 01 2013 18:42 Koshi wrote: btw, I think it is pretty suspicious that all 3 vets didn't even try to solve the game on day 2-5. Recent games have shown VA is pretty good, while everybody said MZ and marv should be vets playing this game. But for some reason, you 3 are now saying adam/mocsta is the last scum? That's just strange. Vayne said basically fuck vets in so many words and since I was feeling trollish and vindictive I sat back and let him have free reign. Not such a good idea in hindsight but it probably proved my (somewhat selfish) point. | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 01 2013 09:48 GMT
#1614
On August 01 2013 18:43 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On August 01 2013 18:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Marv that reasoning is hopessly bad. Mocsta could be anti town but there's no way he's sk. SK has had very good scum snipes. Do you really think adam could pull that off? Yes, Adam is exceptionally under-rated. lol ok He just afk'd out of this game. It feels like you're being willfully obtuse marv. | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 01 2013 10:00 GMT
#1617
On August 01 2013 18:55 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On August 01 2013 18:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On August 01 2013 18:43 marvellosity wrote: On August 01 2013 18:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Marv that reasoning is hopessly bad. Mocsta could be anti town but there's no way he's sk. SK has had very good scum snipes. Do you really think adam could pull that off? Yes, Adam is exceptionally under-rated. lol ok He just afk'd out of this game. It feels like you're being willfully obtuse marv. No, I'm actually reading what people in the thread are doing. For it not to be Mocsta it has to be either VA or Koshi. Do you think *they* have the scumsnipe skill? No? Well then. They are leaps and bounds better choices. Hell I'm insulted you didn't put me as an option... oh yeah I forgot. I'm scum because kush "bussing" me. Got it. I'm going to bed. Once again I offer to end the day early. | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 01 2013 16:50 GMT
#1627
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 01 2013 16:59 GMT
#1631
On August 02 2013 01:53 VayneAuthority wrote: Show nested quote + On August 02 2013 01:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: You guys are being dense. Start thinking about the game with me being town now so that you have a jumpstart on tomorrow. if you are town then don't we lose anyway? What would there be to talk about tomorrow if your town lol yeah forgot about that. Well actually sk wins. RoL just needs to end the day already. | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 01 2013 18:07 GMT
#1634
scum should have seriously considered what I posted earlier. | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 01 2013 18:34 GMT
#1639
On August 02 2013 03:13 Mocsta wrote: lol.. nice debate there.. seems to be your big on the mass debate..... pun intended ==== if I haphazard your sole reasoning that u r town because u said so. OK.. Marv is still Mafia explain to me which of koshi/vayne is SK and why... I'll take vayneauthority for 500 please Alex. No, actually you know what, I have no fucking idea. Read my earlier posts with marv. I fucking martyred three days ago for a reason. I have no fucking idea why there is a disparity between marv and I, and I am not confident on any of the remaining players being one alignment or another. You all are sitting here asking me "who is scum if not you" and I have no decent answers. I have now said this multiple times, we should end the day now if you are dead set on me being antitown. Also jesus christ this isn't martyring. Martyring was where I fucking offered to be lynched so we could clear this up because I fucking knew this sort of situation was going to develop if the check went unresolved. Now I just want to end the fucking game. I'm just so fucking glad we have a parity check so everyone will have an excuse for not scumhunting on the last day. Peace biddies | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 02 2013 04:41 GMT
#1671
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 03 2013 03:37 GMT
#1734
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 03 2013 04:38 GMT
#1748
Sorry to the town for my subpar play | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
August 05 2013 01:03 GMT
#1815
On August 05 2013 09:55 Mocsta wrote: lest bygones be bygones This is and has always been the unspoken motto around here. We play a game which by nature can get heated and I've certainly said things to people which I wouldn't outside of the game and indeed I have apologized for my actions in game when the situation warranted. Similarly, I have messed up as a host (or cohost), messing up as a host is worse because it effects everyone in the game, however mistakes happen and at the end of the day it's just best to move onto the next game. That said, if you feel you have been truly been grievously wronged I encourage you to challenge RoL to a BW grudge match... that is the one true way to settle mafia disputes ![]() | ||
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