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kitaman27
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On June 18 2013 06:38 prplhz wrote:
that's really the only point in the cases that i think is even worth adressing because the rest is weird conjecturing about how i do this and that and doesn't point at scum at all. just gonna take whateverthefuck from kita's case "prplhz is scum because he didn't push anything in first 24 hours of d4", well neither did anybody else lol. so we're all scum?
My argument was that you called vivax obvious scum, roleblocked him, wrote a case against him, and then decided to vote for the green check. The only relevant case you've written in the past 96 hours is against Vivax, and its questionable whether you even think he is scum.
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what i means by "he's obviously scum" was "he's kind of scummy" and it was a "spur of the moment"-thing, it was because of something he said right before that i thought looked odd. i guess i should know by now that it's pretty dumb to use hyperbole like that because it'll get misinterpreted. in the end i trusted in dead townie analysis more than my own analysis, so did you guys because i managed to actually change the lynch away from vivax. JJD's analysis seemed very reasonable and all dead townies had expressed interest in a [UoN]Sentinel lynch so it thought maybe there was something about it. i also thought it was a better idea to take up a lynch on a green check early instead of like at LYLO.
why would i even do all that as scum unless vivax is my scum buddy? you guys were lynching vivax with absolutely no discussion and i had already expressed interest in that lynch, seems like a no brainer that i'd just drop a vote on vivax and watch you guys do nothing until vivax dies. part of the reason i wrote a vivax case was also that you had requested it and because some discussion is always good. unfortunately it pretty much turned into no discussion and people h8in' on me.
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other than that, you're kind of right. i didn't write any other big cases and i don't really know if i think that vivax is scum.
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Prp, have you explained your flipflop on the rayn lynch and the way you did it?
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and the most impact i had on this game was when i spearheaded a lynch on a green check. i guess that looks kind of bad but if you think that scum are likely to do that then whatever. i guess they'd only do it to save scum buddies but then why on earth would i pick a green check instead of some other guy like maybe jaybrundage or stutters or someone who hasn't been cleared by a cop. i mean i don't really have the imagination to play like this as scum.
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yes, i explained it in the thread when i did it? i think?
long story short: i liked your case, not so much mkfuba's. i just believed that rayn was really actually busy and i wanted to give him a chance because i know he's really good and can appear really townie (whatwasthatgame, Ego Mini Mafia he was really impressive in that game). it was a bad decision and next time i shouldn't be soft on someone just because he might be busy.
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and oatsmaster's push on ace was really fishy.
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I only feel guilty about my activity but then again we all should. I posted that because if i didn't then all i would done is place a vote with no justification and that's anti-town.
Stutters there is no reason for him to be smearing you with green paint on day1 if he is town. It is not something i am used to him doing either. It's easier to do that as mafia because for one thing you know if you are right and if you are his teammate then making you look towny benefits him.
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Well prp, it seems you ded anyway.
I'd do less railing against your attackers and more predeaths reads.
What are your thoughts on the final two being people town is least likely to suspect?
Ie me, kita, fuba
We were burned pretty hard in a recent mini and we didn't consider EVERY option then.
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okay then lynch me because i thought stutters was town on d1.
can't really argue with that because i genuinely thought he was the towniest guy by far when i posted. he didn't do anything notable since then so i'd obviously reconsider now but on d1 i thought he was townie. was the reason i thought he was town bad?
also "it's something scum would do because it's easier for you to do if he's town and if he's scum then you give him town credit"
don't you mean "it's not something scum would do because it's harder for you to do if he's scum and if he's town you give him town credit"
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@wos i don't think that you or fuba are scum because you pushed rayn on d1. i have nothing on kita either, biggest point was his case on ace. while he ended up going against it i think that was completely reasonable and i don't think he'd write a huge case on ace as the very first thing in the game if ace was his scum buddy.
i also don't think that lay is scum because he's pretty out there with crazy ass opinions. look at him actually voting for fuba on d3 wtf i don't think scum could do that with a straight face.
i'm more suspicious of jay/vivax. stutters and vayne are second tier.
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On June 18 2013 07:29 prplhz wrote:
@wos i don't think that you or fuba are scum because you pushed rayn on d1. i have nothing on kita either, biggest point was his case on ace. while he ended up going against it i think that was completely reasonable and i don't think he'd write a huge case on ace as the very first thing in the game if ace was his scum buddy.
i also don't think that lay is scum because he's pretty out there with crazy ass opinions. look at him actually voting for fuba on d3 wtf i don't think scum could do that with a straight face.
i'm more suspicious of jay/vivax. stutters and vayne are second tier.
If its that easy then we can basically just systematically lynch as we've done so far and eventually win. Problem is that hasn't been going very well so far, especially if you flip green.
Again, the only reason Ace pulled the move he did is if there was some plan in motion; nothing else makes sense to me. If its simple enough as to be Vivax then another guy you've named then Ace's play was essentially just for the original trade.
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well maybe ace didn't have time to play and he just did something and hoped it would leave town confused. he did get a lynch on oats and a lynch on sent out of it right? i can just imagine him in the scumqt "look at this plrhplz dude he's gonna lynch two townies when i fake claim LOL"
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There are too many people left in this game for me... I can't get my mind straight. I've been reduced to little more than null on too many people after the sent mislynch. I'd been down to sent, vivax, prplhz, and a bit stutters, but was so sure of sent. Now it's like I'm just shooting blindly into a crowd. I don't feel like scum vivax would give a town read to sentinel when he was such an easy mislynch. I also feel like prplhz seems really sincere in his recent posting, but I'm often really swayed by these last minute appeals, so I usually keep myself from posting all that much.
I don't know... I feel like we're walking into another mislynch, but I don't know who we should lynch instead. I'd feel better with a Vayne lynch, probably, but that might just be because he's been bothering me all game. I've flip-flopped all over him, and can't come up with a town read unless I interpret his typical nonchalance as a town tell (which I have been until now). I don't like how much faith he seems to be willing to put into the night actions, when I personally feel like it's very difficult to trust anything about them. His willingness to lynch vivax just to get information from night actions, when night actions could have easily been manipulated by scum in some way, is something that I don't really expect from town. Then there's how positive he was of sent being town, when most people were either null/unsure. I really don't like any of it.
Is anyone else up for a vayne lynch? I doubt we have enough time/people to switch it, but this lynch feels wrong...
##Vote: VayneAuthority
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what i mean is, we lynched two townies because of ace's check. that's worth it. i don't really think there has to be a bigger plan behind it.
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honestly, i'm not even really into it. people think i'm scum for a variety of reasons, some bad and some i can't really argue against, so just lynch me and move on. just don't fucking railroad vivax tomorrow, please.
also if people want to lynch vayne then i'm all for it but i'm all for pretty much anyone who isn't me.
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maybe you should just lynch me and then think things over tomorrow. if vayne is a mislynch then we're really screwed because people will still lynch me for flip flopping on rayn and because of something ace said that apparently proves i'm scum.
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doesn't matter, it's 15 mins until deadline. there's absolutely no chance of me not getting lynched.
anyway, i was town.
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On June 18 2013 07:45 prplhz wrote:
doesn't matter, it's 15 mins until deadline. there's absolutely no chance of me not getting lynched.
anyway, i was town.
you can still not get lynched if we can consolidate on vivax fast enough, he's simply a better overall lynch but no one wants to for whatever reason
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On June 18 2013 07:41 mkfuba07 wrote:
There are too many people left in this game for me... I can't get my mind straight. I've been reduced to little more than null on too many people after the sent mislynch. I'd been down to sent, vivax, prplhz, and a bit stutters, but was so sure of sent. Now it's like I'm just shooting blindly into a crowd. I don't feel like scum vivax would give a town read to sentinel when he was such an easy mislynch. I also feel like prplhz seems really sincere in his recent posting, but I'm often really swayed by these last minute appeals, so I usually keep myself from posting all that much.
I don't know... I feel like we're walking into another mislynch, but I don't know who we should lynch instead. I'd feel better with a Vayne lynch, probably, but that might just be because he's been bothering me all game. I've flip-flopped all over him, and can't come up with a town read unless I interpret his typical nonchalance as a town tell (which I have been until now). I don't like how much faith he seems to be willing to put into the night actions, when I personally feel like it's very difficult to trust anything about them. His willingness to lynch vivax just to get information from night actions, when night actions could have easily been manipulated by scum in some way, is something that I don't really expect from town. Then there's how positive he was of sent being town, when most people were either null/unsure. I really don't like any of it.
Is anyone else up for a vayne lynch? I doubt we have enough time/people to switch it, but this lynch feels wrong...
##Vote: VayneAuthority
at least be consistent if you're going to write a case on me. Scum vivax can't give a town read on sentinel but scum vayne can give a town read on rayn?
Just one of the many logical fallacies in your post, it's like reading a lawyer manuscript
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