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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 17 2013 19:16 GMT
#1571
^ in reply to vayne
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 17 2013 19:51 GMT
#1579
No, it's just scummy to ask before you do so because you're worried about looking bad :p
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 17 2013 21:24 GMT
#1592
On June 04 2013 19:25 prplhz wrote:
hey i'm trying to post more because usually i get brought up as a lurker lynch


On June 18 2013 06:22 prplhz wrote:
hey guys i'm not going to write anything substantial

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 17 2013 22:04 GMT
#1601
On June 18 2013 06:38 prplhz wrote:
that's really the only point in the cases that i think is even worth adressing because the rest is weird conjecturing about how i do this and that and doesn't point at scum at all. just gonna take whateverthefuck from kita's case "prplhz is scum because he didn't push anything in first 24 hours of d4", well neither did anybody else lol. so we're all scum?


My argument was that you called vivax obvious scum, roleblocked him, wrote a case against him, and then decided to vote for the green check. The only relevant case you've written in the past 96 hours is against Vivax, and its questionable whether you even think he is scum.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 18 2013 15:30 GMT
#1681
On June 18 2013 10:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Fuck my brain.
I know I'm like...ALWAYS wrong with my conspiracy theory stuff, but I'm almost certain now scum has withheld a shot at some point.
If it was the shot on N3 then it means both Fuba and Kita are likely scum, and would fit with the idea that Ace sacced himself because he had a capable scumteam and the 'confirmed town' status that Ace gave to fuba before he decided to essentially off himself.

It is becoming increasingly apparent to me that this is one of those games where the scumteam is blending incredibly well, tryharding like a boss (increasingly common in games I've been in lately), and letting bad townies be bad.

In this case 2 scum among Vivax/kita/fuba.


If me and fuba are scumbuddies, that would mean mafia withheld kp on N3 and shot himself to remove the vet on N4, which would be incredibly silly in a setup with a cop.

If fuba is scum and I'm not, that would still mean mafia withheld kp on N3 and shot himself to remove the vet on N4, which would be incredibly silly in a setup with a cop.

If I'm scum and fuba is town, that would mean I withheld kp on N3, guessing that I would be the one medic protected, then proceeded to shoot the player that just saved me from a hit on N4.

If you're going to come up with conspiracy theories, at least look at the ones that could be plausible like Jay.

@Jay, the indifference between prpl and Vivax from vayne was really scummy. He warrants attention for that reason alone.

With a scum cop, an ignored cop, and an afk cop, I really hope we can pull off a good check tonight.

We've been dancing around a Vivax lynch for far too long and really should have killed him two days ago. I think he's my preferred lynch, but I'm going to reread when I have the chance.

We can't all wait until the day is 3/4th of the way over to start discussion. The last two townies have gone down without much of a fight, so everyone really needs to get involved and share their thoughts, rather than jumping on the bandwagon of the day.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 18 2013 17:14 GMT
#1682
Assuming Vivax is mafia, who do you guys think is the most likely to be his scum buddy?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 18 2013 17:33 GMT
#1684
On June 19 2013 02:23 mkfuba07 wrote:
Would you be able to direct me to the best case against vivax please? Or just quickly outline it, as I'm going to go through his filter soon? I still think it's unlikely for him to give sentinel a town check when he could have given it to practically anyone.


Well he could only really check Sent or prpl and get away with it and both would come up town. It's not like a town check on you or Wave would make much sense from his perspective. I suppose he could have hidden the cop, but a green check on a player he had already wrote a case as being town makes him look good. It's not like the green check saved a mislynch -_-

I'll summarize my earlier case tonight.

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 18 2013 17:50 GMT
#1686
On June 19 2013 02:38 mkfuba07 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 02:33 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 19 2013 02:23 mkfuba07 wrote:
Would you be able to direct me to the best case against vivax please? Or just quickly outline it, as I'm going to go through his filter soon? I still think it's unlikely for him to give sentinel a town check when he could have given it to practically anyone.


Well he could only really check Sent or prpl and get away with it and both would come up town. It's not like a town check on you or Wave would make much sense from his perspective. I suppose he could have hidden the cop, but a green check on a player he had already wrote a case as being town makes him look good. It's not like the green check saved a mislynch -_-

I'll summarize my earlier case tonight.


Why could he only have given sent or prplhz a town check? He could call anyone that isn't his scumpartner town and be perfectly safe.


A cop isn't going to check a player that is widely considered town. He could have checked into the pool of players like vayne or stutters that were closer to null, but not lynch candidates, but then everyone wants to know why isn't checking his scum read prpl or the number one player that town wanted to lynch with sent.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 18 2013 18:34 GMT
#1688
On June 19 2013 03:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
I mean I feel like kita has to be town


Ruh roh. Whenever people start posting that at night, I find myself dead a few hours later.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 18 2013 18:38 GMT
#1690
On June 19 2013 03:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 03:34 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 19 2013 03:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
I mean I feel like kita has to be town


Ruh roh. Whenever people start posting that at night, I find myself dead a few hours later.


you seem to be the only other person on the same wavelength as me


You can buddy me all night long <3
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 19 2013 13:25 GMT
#1709
On June 19 2013 09:39 Vivax wrote:
Currently the only guy who could be scum considering night actions and excluding powerplays is stutters.


Considering there are two mafia players remaining, who would be your best guess for the second? The possible scenarios are extremely limited without a scum Vivax.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 19 2013 17:24 GMT
#1712
On June 20 2013 01:54 mkfuba07 wrote:
Oh god, what the hell was wrong with me yesterday. If I don't think scum withheld kp, then either vayne or vivax is scum, right?


Both Vivax and Vayne are tied to the N2 action, where Vivax was roleblocked and Vayne claimed to have protected WoS.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 19 2013 19:01 GMT
#1722
On June 20 2013 03:31 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 02:24 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 20 2013 01:54 mkfuba07 wrote:
Oh god, what the hell was wrong with me yesterday. If I don't think scum withheld kp, then either vayne or vivax is scum, right?


Both Vivax and Vayne are tied to the N2 action, where Vivax was roleblocked and Vayne claimed to have protected WoS.

I wanna lynch Vayne still. He has done hella scummy things. And given WoS's theory on scum using blue roles it would make sense that he would hold the shot and claim he doc protected someone.


I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. If mafia is going to double stack a target, I don't think JarJarDinks would have been who they decided to use it on. A double stack on fuba or WoS would have made much more sense, while accomplishing the same goal. Vivax and/or Vayne could still be scum, but I don't think that's the argument I'd want to push.

I've been pressed for time today, but tonight I'll try to be decided on a vote.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 19 2013 19:10 GMT
#1724
jay, could you point me to the reason you have a town read on Vivax in the meantime?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 19 2013 19:15 GMT
#1726
Vayne could you point me to what makes jay scum outside his suspicions of you? Right now it looks like an omgus.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 19 2013 19:40 GMT
#1728
On June 20 2013 04:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 04:15 kitaman27 wrote:
Vayne could you point me to what makes jay scum outside his suspicions of you? Right now it looks like an omgus.


go back into my filter, I already said exactly what would happen. Jay or fuba wanted to put their suspicion on me yesterday but were content to stay on prphlz to setup my mislynch for today.


That's not a very good reason.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 19 2013 19:41 GMT
#1729
Or perhaps what I mean to say is that doesn't answer my question.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 19 2013 20:14 GMT
#1737
##Vote Vayne (Just because I feel left out on the insults. Will probably be changing)

I still feel that too many people have town reads on Vivax without explanations. Can anyone point it out to me?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 19 2013 20:18 GMT
#1740
On June 20 2013 05:16 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 04:10 kitaman27 wrote:
jay, could you point me to the reason you have a town read on Vivax in the meantime?

I have trouble reading Vivax. I had a town read on him day 1 for defending me and helping make sure i wasn't the day 1 mislynch. But as his activity wavered i began to doubt my early read on him and that he could be scum. However there was people I was alot more sure were scum. Sent and then prplhz. It just seems hard to pin anything scummy on him.

He has been having a fairly straight forward game with lower activity then I like. The biggest thing that i think can implicate him is that he was roleblocked when there was no shot. But the same thing happened to Sent and Sent turned out to not be scum.
Ill go over Vivax again. But it just seems like most of the case against him. Is based on blue's and KP instead of actually content in his filter.

Also the fact that WoS mentioned scum messing with blue roles or faking using them. Made me really suspicious about people that were "confirmed town" via blue roles. With all the no shots going on. Isn't it likely that scum just held a shot off one day or decided to use a blue role to get town cred for the late game. The scum have done a solid job so far blending in. I wouldnt put it past this scum team to lost KP to gain towncred late game. Thats why I think Vayne is a more likely candidate as well.


None of this really tells me why you think Vivax is town. Or do you not have a town read on him?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 19 2013 20:34 GMT
#1745
On June 20 2013 05:32 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 05:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 20 2013 05:16 jaybrundage wrote:
On June 20 2013 04:10 kitaman27 wrote:
jay, could you point me to the reason you have a town read on Vivax in the meantime?

I have trouble reading Vivax. I had a town read on him day 1 for defending me and helping make sure i wasn't the day 1 mislynch. But as his activity wavered i began to doubt my early read on him and that he could be scum. However there was people I was alot more sure were scum. Sent and then prplhz. It just seems hard to pin anything scummy on him.

He has been having a fairly straight forward game with lower activity then I like. The biggest thing that i think can implicate him is that he was roleblocked when there was no shot. But the same thing happened to Sent and Sent turned out to not be scum.
Ill go over Vivax again. But it just seems like most of the case against him. Is based on blue's and KP instead of actually content in his filter.

Also the fact that WoS mentioned scum messing with blue roles or faking using them. Made me really suspicious about people that were "confirmed town" via blue roles. With all the no shots going on. Isn't it likely that scum just held a shot off one day or decided to use a blue role to get town cred for the late game. The scum have done a solid job so far blending in. I wouldnt put it past this scum team to lost KP to gain towncred late game. Thats why I think Vayne is a more likely candidate as well.





we're talking a night 3 withheld KP here if you think im scum. Do you honestly believe thats likely GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE GAME AT THE TIME?

Like it makes zero sense. Anyone town on me right now is probably just sick of the game to looking to get it over with.

So you think it doesn't make sense to hold a KP when your scum team rolls doctor so you can get free town cred for late game.

Lemme guess you don't think scum manipulated any blue rolls at all right. We should just take them at face value as infallible truths./sarcasm

Is that truly what you believe


I think it's a terrible idea to withhold kp when your scum team rolls doctor.

I'd consider that the mafia team would double stack a player. Do you think JarJar is a likely double stack target?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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