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On June 18 2013 08:16 mkfuba07 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 08:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
At this point I feel like I have to re-adjust my view of the game after vivax finally gets lynched hopefully.
I feel like at this point stutters could be town with how jay/mkfuba are slowly but surely re-inserting scumreads on me, as if to to slowplay a future mislynch. They can just come back here and be like "look, im consistent!"
ROFL Please please please please PLEASE try to get me mislynched. Oh, and it's very townie of you to say that you're going to keep trying to get vivax lynched, then pointing out two more scumreads who are supposedly working together. Do you not see the error here?
I don't see any error there, a slash implies one or the other. that still counts up to....2. the amount of scum left. Your sudden aggressiveness is noted.
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On June 18 2013 08:27 mkfuba07 wrote:
Oh dear, not being noted by vayne. How will I ever live with myself?!
You're wanting to lynch vivax. That's one. Then you're saying that both me and jay are setting you up for a "mislynch". That's three. Either you don't actually believe vivax is scum, or you don't believe that "setting you up for a mislynch" is actually scummy. You can't have both.
I'm trying to figure out if scum would plant the idea or simply follow up on it. I think you know where I'm going with this. Your newfound aggressive/arrogant attitude is intriguing as the game clamps down on the few left and you struggle to fight for your life. Is your towncred from the rayn lynch perhaps wearing off and you feel the clenching noose coming down on you?
only time will tell.
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On June 18 2013 08:27 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 08:20 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 18 2013 08:15 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 18 2013 08:13 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 18 2013 08:10 mkfuba07 wrote:On June 18 2013 07:59 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 18 2013 07:58 mkfuba07 wrote:
What are you talking about? I don't see how those two situations are in any way similar or related. I didn't even say anything about you giving rayn a town read. Scum vivax, with the cop role, could have given a town read to anyone in the game. He instead gave it to the one person most likely to be mislynched (imo). That would have been a silly play for scum. they are pretty much exactly the same. A scummy person giving a town read on some one that most of the game thinks is scum. Everyone was voting rayn and I gave him a town read everyone was suspicious of vivax/going to vote him and he gave sentinel a town check, some one that the game also thought was pretty scummy. what is the difference The difference is the ACTUAL ALIGNMENT OF THE FLIPPED TOWN READ/CHECK! And also the complete lack of any reasoning whatsoever on your part. Town vivax was cop, he checked his scumread, scumread comes back town, he says in the thread that he's town. There is reason for town vivax to believe it. Exactly as much reason as you would have had to believe the check if we lynched vivax and he flipped town, as a matter of fact. Scum vivax, on the other hand, was giving a town *check* on someone who is likely to be lynched. That *doesn't* make sense. You gave a town *read* on someone for no reason whatsoever. That person ended up flipping and was revealed as the scum power role. You had no reason to give a town read on rayn as town (as shown by the fact that you didn't actually have a reason for your town read). As scum, however, the reason is obvious. That is how the two are different. if you want your reason here it is: There is zero benefit to a scum player trying to buddy up with a player that has no pull in the game, so the fact that he tried that with me as opposed to some one that could actually change his lynch was baffling. How was he trying to change his lynch exactly by 'buddying' you? I remember you bringing that up earlier and thought to myself that it was strange that you'd think of ti that way. You, my friend, have warranted a re-read. In fact I think I want to start actually putting some effort in now since my lategame play is notoriously bad. Kita, thoughts on the mislynch please? At this point I doubt this town will ever win, much too fickle. At least I have a clear cut plan on how to approach this game instead of just randomly killing off town. You don't think its weird that scum that is set to be lynched would randomly say I am town when there is absolutely nothing I can do to stop him from being lynched? I think scum do what they wanna do when they're on the chopping block. You should know this.
But we did not know he was scum at the time...you keep asking/answering these questions with the assumption rayn was scum. At the time we did not know. I thought only a town rayn would attempt to get help from a newer player for no reason but apparently I was wrong. If he was scum on the chopping block I would much more expect him to try to garner trust from a vet and have them get the mislynch off him.
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On June 18 2013 08:37 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 18 2013 08:27 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 18 2013 08:20 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 18 2013 08:15 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 18 2013 08:13 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 18 2013 08:10 mkfuba07 wrote:On June 18 2013 07:59 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 18 2013 07:58 mkfuba07 wrote:
What are you talking about? I don't see how those two situations are in any way similar or related. I didn't even say anything about you giving rayn a town read. Scum vivax, with the cop role, could have given a town read to anyone in the game. He instead gave it to the one person most likely to be mislynched (imo). That would have been a silly play for scum. they are pretty much exactly the same. A scummy person giving a town read on some one that most of the game thinks is scum. Everyone was voting rayn and I gave him a town read everyone was suspicious of vivax/going to vote him and he gave sentinel a town check, some one that the game also thought was pretty scummy. what is the difference The difference is the ACTUAL ALIGNMENT OF THE FLIPPED TOWN READ/CHECK! And also the complete lack of any reasoning whatsoever on your part. Town vivax was cop, he checked his scumread, scumread comes back town, he says in the thread that he's town. There is reason for town vivax to believe it. Exactly as much reason as you would have had to believe the check if we lynched vivax and he flipped town, as a matter of fact. Scum vivax, on the other hand, was giving a town *check* on someone who is likely to be lynched. That *doesn't* make sense. You gave a town *read* on someone for no reason whatsoever. That person ended up flipping and was revealed as the scum power role. You had no reason to give a town read on rayn as town (as shown by the fact that you didn't actually have a reason for your town read). As scum, however, the reason is obvious. That is how the two are different. if you want your reason here it is: There is zero benefit to a scum player trying to buddy up with a player that has no pull in the game, so the fact that he tried that with me as opposed to some one that could actually change his lynch was baffling. How was he trying to change his lynch exactly by 'buddying' you? I remember you bringing that up earlier and thought to myself that it was strange that you'd think of ti that way. You, my friend, have warranted a re-read. In fact I think I want to start actually putting some effort in now since my lategame play is notoriously bad. Kita, thoughts on the mislynch please? At this point I doubt this town will ever win, much too fickle. At least I have a clear cut plan on how to approach this game instead of just randomly killing off town. You don't think its weird that scum that is set to be lynched would randomly say I am town when there is absolutely nothing I can do to stop him from being lynched? I think scum do what they wanna do when they're on the chopping block. You should know this. But we did not know he was scum at the time...you keep asking/answering these questions with the assumption rayn was scum. At the time we did not know. I thought only a town rayn would attempt to get help from a newer player for no reason but apparently I was wrong. If he was scum on the chopping block I would much more expect him to try to garner trust from a vet and have them get the mislynch off him. Or, ya know, scum WIFOM and shit, and it means nothing and you constantly look into it for what reason? A scum Rayn would try to garner trust from a vet, huh? I think in every game I've ever played every time I've ever made obvious attempts to 'buddy' people (as town, mind you) I get called out for it. Vivax I believe one of those times was you. If anything I think buddying up to a vet as scum is a horrible idea because it is likely to make said vet take a long hard look at you. (PS I don't have much regard for the vet/newbie split anymore for the record, I need to stop using the terms.)
so why do I not get to keep up looking into but people get to bring up the fact that I wasn't on the rayn bandwagon? double standard much?
You guys are gonna have to do better then double standards and inconsistencies to pin anything on me.
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On June 18 2013 08:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Vayne I apologize for saying this in advance because I don't put much faith in it as a heuristic, but you're certainly pulling one of those 'the lady doth protest too much' deals on me here. I'm pretty sure I made it clear that I don't know what I'm going to find when I dive you, and I'm not doing so just because I think you'll turn up scummy. In fact if you're ever looked into any of my filter-diving analysis, much of it pulling up points that can be thought of from either alignment and turning to the thread for assistance.
This is a stupid question, but why are you so concerned?
I haven't been mislynched yet, and I plan to keep it that way.
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On June 18 2013 09:22 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 09:14 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 18 2013 08:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Vayne I apologize for saying this in advance because I don't put much faith in it as a heuristic, but you're certainly pulling one of those 'the lady doth protest too much' deals on me here. I'm pretty sure I made it clear that I don't know what I'm going to find when I dive you, and I'm not doing so just because I think you'll turn up scummy. In fact if you're ever looked into any of my filter-diving analysis, much of it pulling up points that can be thought of from either alignment and turning to the thread for assistance.
This is a stupid question, but why are you so concerned? I haven't been mislynched yet, and I plan to keep it that way. Yes but there's a difference in how we play when we're about to get mislynched. (Which, as you've said, does not happen in the end.) Your play is very self-centered and you're always out for survival, even when it's not arguably necessary (see your cop claim in I Swear). When I was about to get mislynched as GravityMan I didn't spout defense after defense, because you can still win a game even after being mislynched if you provide something that helps the town kill scum after you're gone. Your primary concern should be to lynch scum, not your own survival. End of story. I am aware that is not indicative of you being scum or town because that's just the way you play, but it's part of the reason why people haven't found you particularly useful in many of the games we have played together. Eventually I imagine if you keep up your behaviour the way it has been you'd be the type of person to get policy lynched as people will realize it's not worth keeping you alive until later on. (Although a counterpoint to this is kushmasta's baffling lategame survival rate despite his play every game.)
it was actually pretty necessary considering I had work all day that day and wouldn't be able to properly defend myself before the deadline. Would have lost a blue for no reason, but I digress this is pretty off-topic.
As I've said multiple times to anyone that takes that route when approaching me - If you don't like my play, so be it, but don't try to make it alignment indicative.
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On June 18 2013 09:39 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 09:33 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 18 2013 09:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 18 2013 09:14 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 18 2013 08:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Vayne I apologize for saying this in advance because I don't put much faith in it as a heuristic, but you're certainly pulling one of those 'the lady doth protest too much' deals on me here. I'm pretty sure I made it clear that I don't know what I'm going to find when I dive you, and I'm not doing so just because I think you'll turn up scummy. In fact if you're ever looked into any of my filter-diving analysis, much of it pulling up points that can be thought of from either alignment and turning to the thread for assistance.
This is a stupid question, but why are you so concerned? I haven't been mislynched yet, and I plan to keep it that way. Yes but there's a difference in how we play when we're about to get mislynched. (Which, as you've said, does not happen in the end.) Your play is very self-centered and you're always out for survival, even when it's not arguably necessary (see your cop claim in I Swear). When I was about to get mislynched as GravityMan I didn't spout defense after defense, because you can still win a game even after being mislynched if you provide something that helps the town kill scum after you're gone. Your primary concern should be to lynch scum, not your own survival. End of story. I am aware that is not indicative of you being scum or town because that's just the way you play, but it's part of the reason why people haven't found you particularly useful in many of the games we have played together. Eventually I imagine if you keep up your behaviour the way it has been you'd be the type of person to get policy lynched as people will realize it's not worth keeping you alive until later on. (Although a counterpoint to this is kushmasta's baffling lategame survival rate despite his play every game.) it was actually pretty necessary considering I had work all day that day and wouldn't be able to properly defend myself before the deadline. Would have lost a blue for no reason, but I digress this is pretty off-topic. As I've said multiple times to anyone that takes that route when approaching me - If you don't like my play, so be it, but don't try to make it alignment indicative. Show nested quote +Your primary concern should be to lynch scum, not your own survival. End of story. I am aware that is not indicative of you being scum or town because that's just the way you play, but it's part of the reason why people haven't found you particularly useful in many of the games we have played together. I believe I've asked you this before, Vayne in other games. What do you plan on doing to help town win this game besides defending yourself? Why should you not be considered a policy lynch in future games?
If people didn't think I was scummy every game I would be able to do other things besides defend myself how about that? When people get better at scumhunting maybe I will find time to write about other stuff.
This doesn't pertain to this game at all so it is pretty off topic. If people want to policy lynch me, go ahead! won't make me or you any better at this game.
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On June 18 2013 09:59 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 09:54 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 18 2013 09:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 18 2013 09:33 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 18 2013 09:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 18 2013 09:14 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 18 2013 08:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Vayne I apologize for saying this in advance because I don't put much faith in it as a heuristic, but you're certainly pulling one of those 'the lady doth protest too much' deals on me here. I'm pretty sure I made it clear that I don't know what I'm going to find when I dive you, and I'm not doing so just because I think you'll turn up scummy. In fact if you're ever looked into any of my filter-diving analysis, much of it pulling up points that can be thought of from either alignment and turning to the thread for assistance.
This is a stupid question, but why are you so concerned? I haven't been mislynched yet, and I plan to keep it that way. Yes but there's a difference in how we play when we're about to get mislynched. (Which, as you've said, does not happen in the end.) Your play is very self-centered and you're always out for survival, even when it's not arguably necessary (see your cop claim in I Swear). When I was about to get mislynched as GravityMan I didn't spout defense after defense, because you can still win a game even after being mislynched if you provide something that helps the town kill scum after you're gone. Your primary concern should be to lynch scum, not your own survival. End of story. I am aware that is not indicative of you being scum or town because that's just the way you play, but it's part of the reason why people haven't found you particularly useful in many of the games we have played together. Eventually I imagine if you keep up your behaviour the way it has been you'd be the type of person to get policy lynched as people will realize it's not worth keeping you alive until later on. (Although a counterpoint to this is kushmasta's baffling lategame survival rate despite his play every game.) it was actually pretty necessary considering I had work all day that day and wouldn't be able to properly defend myself before the deadline. Would have lost a blue for no reason, but I digress this is pretty off-topic. As I've said multiple times to anyone that takes that route when approaching me - If you don't like my play, so be it, but don't try to make it alignment indicative. Your primary concern should be to lynch scum, not your own survival. End of story. I am aware that is not indicative of you being scum or town because that's just the way you play, but it's part of the reason why people haven't found you particularly useful in many of the games we have played together. I believe I've asked you this before, Vayne in other games. What do you plan on doing to help town win this game besides defending yourself? Why should you not be considered a policy lynch in future games? If people didn't think I was scummy every game I would be able to do other things besides defend myself how about that? When people get better at scumhunting maybe I will find time to write about other stuff. This doesn't pertain to this game at all so it is pretty off topic. If people want to policy lynch me, go ahead! won't make me or you any better at this game. Of course it pertains to this game. You blame other people for your own scumhunting shortcomings ingame; you did so in I Swear. You shouldn't be giving a shit about what other people think of you; hell you've even said you don't give a shit what other people think about you but your play always ALWAYS belies that you actually do care. If you truly didn't care you'd let people say what they want and you'd go out and prove yourself through your actions. Which you never do, hence having to resort to things like shitty cop claims. This discussion is helping me a great deal with my meta analysis btw, so thanks. 
I don't really see your point here, you're basically just talking to talk now. I was wrong about rayn, you guys were wrong about sent/prphlz. We can call it even. In I swear you voted everything that I did. You can try to blame me all you want but it just looks silly.
Just because I don't give you some generic case reports on who is scum doesn't mean im not putting forth an effort, and you can never expect to get anything like that from me.
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On June 18 2013 10:14 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 04:15 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 08 2013 04:14 JarJarDrinks wrote:On June 08 2013 04:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
He said I was town because he was trying to buddy up people outside of the mafia to get the lynch changed, he did the same thing with JJD. This isn't that complicated. ???? Read rayne's filter and it will become apparent Even JJD was confused. It's not apparent at all. Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 03:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
Im pretty much confirmed town after rayne flipped red, anyone pushing on me reminds me of goodkarma from the les mis game, except im goodkarma this game. Like....wtf IS this. I truly don't understand how your mind works, Vayne. I've been trying to read Les Mafia from the town perspective and, like I've stated before, you try harder and look townier in that game than any other game you've played in thus far. Why on god's green earth would you think a Rayn red flip where he names you town makes you confirmed town? Your play in general is a clear indication for you being town this game (and it certainly should have been clear in I Swear but then you do things like YOLOshoot a town Oats) but I worry because I know you've become aware of your meta on this site. It's stuff like this that is going to force you to become a policy lynch in games that people (or at least I) play with you. Still reading.
I don't even know where I got the JJD thing from, I might have mixed up games there or something because he clearly says nothing about JJD. You know after les mis that if rayn was red I would be all over that bandwagon from bussing 101. The fact that I was wary of lynching him and so incorrect should be a huge towntell, but it isn't when I have to directly say it so many times so pretty null.
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On June 18 2013 10:23 WaveofShadow wrote:That's not true, you gave plenty of reads and analysis in Les Mafia when you were scum. So I certainly know that kind if thing IS possible from you, but for some reason you're more content to sit back and do nothing as town and let your team lose. You're right I was just as responsible for the town loss in I Swear as you were. Anyway, Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 10:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
I apologize if you are town vivax but lynching you solves the game for me FMPOV. If you were Rb'ed the other night and show up as scum, then WoS goes back to not being clear. If you are town then I know that WoS is also town and as a result his RB on sentinel is real, and your cop claim is real, meaning sentinel would either have to be godfather or it was simply kita that was shot which would clear him too.
You are the piece that sets a lot of things into motion.
##vote:Vivax Can you explain how the game is solved now if Vivax flips town? There's a bunch of other questions I have for you in my past few posts, of course it's up to you as to whether or not you want to answer them.
It's a lot easier to make up bullshit reads/analysis when you know all the answers. It's a lot harder to figure out anything when you are in the dark, especially when very few people are talking much in this game now.
If vivax is town... = you are town, I am town, kita is town now that we know that sentinel is town. You don't think thats pretty amazing to have?
if vivax is scum, well it's win/win here.
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Yea I don't even know what to say about the JJD thing. I have a photographic memory and could picture the post in my head and everything so I didn't even feel like I needed to look. the fact that the post doesn't exist is very concerning, for reasons both inside and outside of this game
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On June 18 2013 10:32 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 10:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
Yea I don't even know what to say about the JJD thing. I have a photographic memory and could picture the post in my head and everything so I didn't even feel like I needed to look. the fact that the post doesn't exist is very concerning, for reasons both inside and outside of this game Sorry I kinda loled. Anyway, Show nested quote +If vivax is town... = you are town, I am town, kita is town now that we know that sentinel is town. You don't think thats pretty amazing to have? Can you explain this in more detail? I don't really follow.
prphlz is town. he Rb'ed vivax. If vivax is not scum, that means the shot went through and I protected you. You are town, I am town.
as a result, the next day you rb'ed sentinel and since you are now confirmed town we take that to be real. He is not scum, so therefore fuba's claim that kita was saved is indeed true. I guess by a result of all this fuba would be confirmed town too.
This all assumes that the mafia never no killed or targeted themself, but if i start thinking about that then forget it.
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Like how has vivax escaped lynch for so long, it's mind blowing. Like I said, whoever the last 2 scum are have incredible influence as they have not only gotten us to mislynch 2 days in a row, but 2 very stupid mislynches that give us shitty information
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I mean I feel like kita has to be town with the sound logic he displays time after time. The fact that fuba is lagging behind on these concepts might be a towntell but I am not sure. I think if town has a cop check they should look into jaybrundage.
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On June 19 2013 03:34 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 03:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
I mean I feel like kita has to be town Ruh roh. Whenever people start posting that at night, I find myself dead a few hours later.
you seem to be the only other person on the same wavelength as me but rayn flipped scum so i guess that doesn't matter much!
the fact that fuba thinks getting a greencheck of sentinel is not scummy when it is pretty much the only option he had besides green check on prp, is pretty puzzling. Check anyone else and people will wonder why, put a red check on either of them and you are dead the next day. A green check on them is actually perfectly normal for either alignment.
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On June 19 2013 03:45 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 03:36 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 19 2013 03:34 kitaman27 wrote:On June 19 2013 03:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
I mean I feel like kita has to be town Ruh roh. Whenever people start posting that at night, I find myself dead a few hours later. you seem to be the only other person on the same wavelength as me but rayn flipped scum so i guess that doesn't matter much! the fact that fuba thinks getting a greencheck of sentinel is not scummy when it is pretty much the only option he had besides green check on prp, is pretty puzzling. Check anyone else and people will wonder why, put a red check on either of them and you are dead the next day. A green check on them is actually perfectly normal for either alignment. Sup bro. Tell me why I would not simply stay silent when people scream for a Sentinel lynch. It's simply not true when you say I had no other choice. Sit back, watch Sentinel getting lynched. Instead, I'd try to stop his lynch when the other option at the start of the day was lynching me? Vein pls
It gives you towncred. You were confident in your abilities to out play sentinel easily and get him lynched over you once you started posting. If you put a red on him, you're lynched the next day, if you green a random it really gives you nothing. By doing so you even have fuba relying on this sole motive for not wanting to lynch you so it obviously worked.
Let's assume that you are town though, who do we lynch at this point?
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On June 19 2013 03:53 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 03:48 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 19 2013 03:45 Vivax wrote:On June 19 2013 03:36 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 19 2013 03:34 kitaman27 wrote:On June 19 2013 03:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
I mean I feel like kita has to be town Ruh roh. Whenever people start posting that at night, I find myself dead a few hours later. you seem to be the only other person on the same wavelength as me but rayn flipped scum so i guess that doesn't matter much! the fact that fuba thinks getting a greencheck of sentinel is not scummy when it is pretty much the only option he had besides green check on prp, is pretty puzzling. Check anyone else and people will wonder why, put a red check on either of them and you are dead the next day. A green check on them is actually perfectly normal for either alignment. Sup bro. Tell me why I would not simply stay silent when people scream for a Sentinel lynch. It's simply not true when you say I had no other choice. Sit back, watch Sentinel getting lynched. Instead, I'd try to stop his lynch when the other option at the start of the day was lynching me? Vein pls It gives you towncred. You were confident in your abilities to out play sentinel easily and get him lynched over you once you started posting. If you put a red on him, you're lynched the next day, if you green a random it really gives you nothing. By doing so you even have fuba relying on this sole motive for not wanting to lynch you so it obviously worked. Let's assume that you are town though, who do we lynch at this point? Welcome
so you're just gonna dodge the question? figures
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looks like they cut off the only person that can attempt to read me, here comes the lynch push on me. Gonna laugh so hard when somebody comes into this thread with a red check on me
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so right now im looking at vivax and stutters pretty much
on one hand we have a player that usually puts in a lot of work that has been sort of middle of the line this entire game. A lot of suspicious night action correlations and the fact that he's still alive at this point in the game all ring alarm bells. He would also confirm me as town if he by some chance showed up town so that's an added bonus. I have no real case on him besides that but feel he is a good lynch overall.
On the other hand we have a player that started out posting like crazy which is odd for him, and he's gone on the weekends fair enough but he's also been gone on weekdays. The only time he has popped in the thread recently is to post one liner questions asking what he is doing wrong in a defensive manner as if trying to find out how he can look more town/correct his play in future games or something. His filter is also off putting at best, his vote on rayn is very last second and without much thought put into it, he has a few strange interactions with Ace and most of his early scumreads/people bothering him are either still alive or have been already mislynched.
I'd like to hear people's thoughts on these two lynches.
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On June 20 2013 03:13 mkfuba07 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2013 02:41 VayneAuthority wrote:
so right now im looking at vivax and stutters pretty much
on one hand we have a player that usually puts in a lot of work that has been sort of middle of the line this entire game. A lot of suspicious night action correlations and the fact that he's still alive at this point in the game all ring alarm bells. He would also confirm me as town if he by some chance showed up town so that's an added bonus. I have no real case on him besides that but feel he is a good lynch overall.
On the other hand we have a player that started out posting like crazy which is odd for him, and he's gone on the weekends fair enough but he's also been gone on weekdays. The only time he has popped in the thread recently is to post one liner questions asking what he is doing wrong in a defensive manner as if trying to find out how he can look more town/correct his play in future games or something. His filter is also off putting at best, his vote on rayn is very last second and without much thought put into it, he has a few strange interactions with Ace and most of his early scumreads/people bothering him are either still alive or have been already mislynched.
I'd like to hear people's thoughts on these two lynches. If vivax flips town, who do you think is scum?
stutters for absolutely certain, dont know on the other. maybe you or jay
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