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The Secrets to being good at Mafia

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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 12:21:12
March 25 2013 12:17 GMT
#1
Being newb or "vet" (lol) in this game has a low correlation with skill level. It honestly doesn't matter. Here are the 2 essential skills to being good at Mafia whether you roll Town, Scum or something else. Amazingly these 2 things are important for getting by in real life also.


1.) Critical thinking - stop the stupid meta arguments. I've talked about this in the past but this is the biggest reason why most people suck. They are too lazy to think about what's going on in the thread. There is an entire essay that I could, but won't write about why "meta" is terrible. You're doing it wrong and should be aware of sample size and context. For a bunch of people on a Starcraft forum you should know better. Of course it fails in part because people also fail at...

2.) Knowing how to read. Yep, a 3rd grade reading level will make you a formidable player. Who knew! Stop trying to be a hero and be a team player no matter what side you end up on. It really is as simple as following lines of thought.

Many "new players" in their first or second games had shown promise in these 2 areas and gone on to have successful Mafia careers. Don't be a jubjub, read the thread and use your head. Stop being lazy.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 25 2013 12:23 GMT
#2
I thought it was

1.) Be Ace
No gg, No skill.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 25 2013 12:33 GMT
#3
1.) Don't suck.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 25 2013 13:23 GMT
#4
Thnx ace. I think a third would be the usual "lessons learnt" post game. Think about about what went well and more importantly what could have been done cleaner or even never again.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 14:20:52
March 25 2013 14:20 GMT
#5
you are wrong ace
also AMERICA
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17953 Posts
March 25 2013 14:36 GMT
#6
Ace, you mention "reading" as a skill to have. Isn't writing an equally important skill nowadays, with mafia games regularly exceeding 200 pages of thread: writing well so that the people who are reading actually look at your post rather than heap it in with the rest of the thread that they can only skim over due to time/concentration restrictions.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
March 25 2013 14:42 GMT
#7
You forgot "you get what you sow".

There is a very strong correlation between success in mafia and the time you invest in the game. The more you read the better you will understand the thread. This is highly useful as both scum and town. It's hard to post convincingly as scum if you don't know what's going on exactly in the thread and making your posts and story good is of critical importance. Even more so as town you get returns based on what you invest.

Time = Success

Computer says mafia
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 14:47:37
March 25 2013 14:46 GMT
#8
On March 25 2013 23:36 Acrofales wrote:
Ace, you mention "reading" as a skill to have. Isn't writing an equally important skill nowadays, with mafia games regularly exceeding 200 pages of thread: writing well so that the people who are reading actually look at your post rather than heap it in with the rest of the thread that they can only skim over due to time/concentration restrictions.


Yea I probably should have added that but I hold reading to such a high regard. I'm also not sure if writing is that important when you're in a game with a bunch of players that will ignore it no matter how many colors you put in it
Kind of difficult to bend people to your way of thinking if they aren't smart enough to begin with.

*nod at Palmar. That goes well with the laziness/meta argument.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
March 25 2013 17:06 GMT
#9
Well, there is "meta" and there is "meta"

"Meta" is helpful if you know how to analyze it. Some times it's obvious, some times it's not (and when it's not people usually fail at it).
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
March 25 2013 17:08 GMT
#10
On August 07 2011 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
There Ace goes again, flaunting his literacy in front of all of us.

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 25 2013 19:29 GMT
#11
Meta is surprisingly useful. While reading and analyzing the thread are a big deall analyzing the player as an individual is a much better skill. There was a lot of talk about this in the post game of personality since Foolishness wrote a very large post about using reaction to know that Acrofales was town and Yamato was scum when in fact both those reads were incorrect. The ability to read a player is much more important than reading a play.

As Palmar said, its all about the amount of time you have. If you have the time to analyze each player individually you will do better than if all you do is analyze the thread. But to analyze the thread as a whole is still better than to not analyze at all.
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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 25 2013 20:22 GMT
#12
Putting the time into the game is the most critical part.

Meta shouldn't matter. Just read the posts critically and decide who's making sense in this particular game.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
March 25 2013 21:01 GMT
#13
i thought it was
1) always shoot night 0
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
March 25 2013 21:24 GMT
#14
On March 26 2013 06:01 Caller wrote:
i thought it was
1) always shoot night 0


Shoot early, shoot often.
Computer says mafia
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
March 26 2013 00:31 GMT
#15
On March 25 2013 21:17 Ace wrote:
Being newb or "vet" (lol) in this game has a low correlation with skill level. It honestly doesn't matter. Here are the 2 essential skills to being good at Mafia whether you roll Town, Scum or something else. Amazingly these 2 things are important for getting by in real life also.


1.) Critical thinking - stop the stupid meta arguments. I've talked about this in the past but this is the biggest reason why most people suck. They are too lazy to think about what's going on in the thread. There is an entire essay that I could, but won't write about why "meta" is terrible. You're doing it wrong and should be aware of sample size and context. For a bunch of people on a Starcraft forum you should know better. Of course it fails in part because people also fail at...

2.) Knowing how to read. Yep, a 3rd grade reading level will make you a formidable player. Who knew! Stop trying to be a hero and be a team player no matter what side you end up on. It really is as simple as following lines of thought.

Many "new players" in their first or second games had shown promise in these 2 areas and gone on to have successful Mafia careers. Don't be a jubjub, read the thread and use your head. Stop being lazy.


I think this is the best guide I've ever seen written. Its so true.. If you don't have time to think and read, your chances of winning drop drastically.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
dreamflower
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States312 Posts
April 02 2013 04:23 GMT
#16
On March 25 2013 21:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
I thought it was

1.) Be Ace


I thought it was

1) Don't be Vivi.
"When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers." -Oscar Wilde
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
April 06 2013 20:14 GMT
#17
On April 02 2013 13:23 dreamflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 21:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
I thought it was

1.) Be Ace


I thought it was

1) Don't be Vivax.


Corrected that for you
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
April 06 2013 21:41 GMT
#18
On April 07 2013 05:14 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 13:23 dreamflower wrote:
On March 25 2013 21:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
I thought it was

1.) Be Ace


I thought it was

1) Don't be Vivax.


Corrected that for you

You don't get the joke dodo <3
dreamflower <3 forever immortalized thanks to role of her name
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
April 16 2013 02:28 GMT
#19
the problem is people write too much so it's impossible to read the thread
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
April 16 2013 02:30 GMT
#20
On April 16 2013 11:28 kushm4sta wrote:
the problem is people write too much so it's impossible to read the thread

Spam is just part of how some people play. Its just something you learn to deal with when you play on TL. In theory it trains your skimming abilities.
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