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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 03:40 GMT
#1013
Yep yep. Cop on Ace is a terrible idea. Lynch him tomorrow, even if we get a red check on someone else, and go from there.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 03:49 GMT
#1015
Who are the scum suspects that are trying to get you lynched?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 03:51 GMT
#1017
I'd totally consider lynching someone else if you provide a case against someone tonight.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 03:53 GMT
#1018
In fact, I think posting your reads of every single player would be a great idea. If you are truly town, then you understand what position you are in and should do whatever you can to prove it.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 04:05 GMT
#1021
The fact that Ace is more interested in generic defense posts than sharing town and scum reads says it all.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 04:10 GMT
#1023
On June 09 2013 13:08 Ace wrote:
Except I never list off all my town/scum reads. That's a known fact about me. Want to try again and actually respond to my last post?


Give me one scum read outside of myself and an explanation why and I'll respond to your last post.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 04:12 GMT
#1025
Gnight Ace.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 14:38 GMT
#1037
On June 09 2013 21:16 layabout wrote:
Please copcheck Ace.


layabout, do you have a town read on Ace? Ignoring whether or not the cop check makes sense as scum, point me to what makes you think Ace is town from the last 48 hours. It really bothers me that you are parroting Ace.

On June 09 2013 23:17 Vivax wrote:
I'm actually curious about Kita writing up points against ace during N1 and then preferring to lynch Oats.


What's the point of me writing up a case against my scum buddy Ace and then having him cop claim 5 minutes later. I'd know he was cop claiming ahead of time so I'd obviously want to set myself up to side with him like everyone else.

On June 09 2013 23:17 Vivax wrote:
I didn't see where Oats made that flip-flop, so I would like Kita to show me where he got that notion


On night one he wanted to lynch sent because he was convinced he scum slipped. After the cop check, he brought up that he wanted to lynch outside of Ace/himself and lynch prpl, before it was pointed out that we could reduce the mafia kp.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 14:40 GMT
#1039
o.O
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 14:49 GMT
#1044
On June 09 2013 23:45 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +

On night one he wanted to lynch sent because he was convinced he scum slipped. After the cop check, he brought up that he wanted to lynch outside of Ace/himself and lynch prpl, before it was pointed out that we could reduce the mafia kp.

Can you link me to the post? I must have missed it <_<


On June 06 2013 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
No.
Sent.
The point is, in both of your scenarios, rayn flips red.
There is no scenario where rayn flips green in your head.
Thats where you scumslipped.


On June 06 2013 21:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
We lynching Sent tmr.


On June 07 2013 10:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok how about we dont lynch me or ace today.
WE LYNCH prp.
YES!


I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 15:05 GMT
#1047
On June 09 2013 23:57 Vivax wrote:
Alright, didn't see that post.

Are you sure it was after the claim? You asked Oats yourself why he thinks that prplhz is town, now you quote him saying he's scum.

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 23:45 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 23:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont think prp is currently scum, sent scumslipped so there's that too. Ace/Sent wouldve probably been discussion topics, and now its Ace and me.


Could you explain why prpl is town and why sent is scum (outside of a slip?). Also, a guess regarding the 4th suspect and a case would be helpful. Thoughts about layabout?



Yep, he changed his mind.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 19:34 GMT
#1052
Please tell me you're not analyzing an anonymous poll -_-
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 19:58 GMT
#1061
On June 10 2013 04:47 Ace wrote:
kita, Wos here is a simple question: assume I am Scum. Why would I be begging you to check me for 2 days ahead of time to prove my innocence?


Gotta start ahead of time knowing oats will flip town.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 20:08 GMT
#1066
On June 10 2013 05:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Kita where dem big cases at, mang? Who is scum?


Deadline posting.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 20:57 GMT
#1072
By the way, Ace's cop discussion is likely an attempt to try to figure out who it is. Don't bite.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 21:11 GMT
#1078
Ace, may I ask you for your read on Vivax?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 21:22 GMT
#1085
On June 10 2013 06:14 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 06:13 Vivax wrote:
read on everyone you have a read on


Read the thread. I've given 2 scum reads in the last day. This stuff isn't exactly hard to find.


Could you clarify, who are those 2 individuals?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 22:59 GMT
#1092
So I'm making this post under the assumption that Ace is mafia. We need to lynch him tomorrow no matter what. Don't buy into his "what if" scenarios, since no matter what he can come up with, its not as likely as him flipping mafia. He has no reads on day one, he is the last one on the lynch and tries to defend the strongest mafia role, he has made only defensive posting on day two. He is extremely cautious with his opinions and is more interested in preserving his own life than lynching mafia.

Based on the fact that Ace is trying to influence the cop, it seems somewhat likely that the cop is no part of the mafia team. Under the assumption that the mafia team lacked their strongest thread presence on day one with Ace being mostly afk. However, it should be noted that Ace was interested in saving Rayn. He simply did not have the votes to swing things in the final hour. When a mafia player goes out of their way to defend a player that is trailing the lynch by a large margin, it's usually not a solo effort.

On June 06 2013 06:30 prplhz wrote:
I'd lynch Oatsmaster over raynpelikoneet.


On June 06 2013 07:00 prplhz wrote:
Okay guys I don't think it's fair to lynch rainpelikoneet today simply because I think that his work excuse is legit. There are a lot of votes on him because of his relative inactivity which I don't like at all. The only reason to lynch raynpelikoneet is his VayneAuthority town read. That someone is very right about you should arouse some suspicion but I remember in that game where yamato77 smurfed he was really right about me and somehow that also made me get a very strong town read on him (he was scum I was town).

I also don't think it's characteristic for scum to martyr in the way he does. There are no feelings in it, just some very collected thoughts about how "if you want to lynch me for inactivity then do it on day1 because it will not get better", that's actually very reasonable but it's not anything scum would say and I think scum would be much more emotional about martyring.

In short, I think raynpelikoneet is a bad lynch today and I really don't think we should lynch him. He's actually contributing really well considering that it appears that he really doesn't have much time for this game and the weird VayneAuthority read is not enough to make me want to lynch him.


prplhz also goes out of his way to defend rayn. He suggests that he would be open to an Oats lynch, despite not actually mentioning him earlier in the cycle.

He acknowledge's Wave's case against rayn in this post.....

On June 06 2013 01:32 prplhz wrote:
I actually like WaveofShadow's case.


....But then later minimizes the reasoning against rayn. Furthermore, Vayne is prplz's preferred lynch throughout day one. Why at the end of the cycle, is he willing to consolidate to Oats (the 2nd most likely player to get lynched), instead of Vayne, the player that he has the strongest scum read on?

JarJarDrinks actually defends rayn towards the end of the cycle too, but his interaction with Ace makes me lean town on him. Ace prompts JarJar for an alternative lynch, making it seem like a bait, rather than working together for a common goal.

I'm torn on Vivax. He simply isn't suspicious of enough people to make me think he is town. I'd think a town Vivax would be more watchful of Ace, but I haven't seen it. He is quite mindful of his activity level, mentioning it multiple times in the thread. He jumps on, off, and back onto rayn as a follower, rather than a leader, which concerns me.

I like Jay's interactions with Ace, so I'm leaning town on him.

Wave has had a strong showing and probably should have earned himself a medic protection.

Fuba comes out looking too good on the rayn lynch that I wouldn't consider him in the next couple of cycles. I'd like him to post more though.

I think the vayne/rayn interaction makes me lean town on him, although not confirmed town like he claims.

layabout would look quite bad in unlikely event that Ace actually flips town. He shares an extremely strong town read on Ace, yet is so hesitant to follow his cop check. He is quite concerned about the miller possibility, despite the odds.

On June 07 2013 09:28 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 09:27 Ace wrote:
the hell? Kita why are you ignoring everything I wrote?

I think he had decided to act like you're mafia fake-claiming instead of trying to work out what the best course of action is.


This post comes off rather hostile, when I voted Ace at the start of day two. Scummy-null for him.

Townie-null for stutters, but I haven't actually spent any time looking at him.

Ace's cop claim makes more sense if Sent is mafia, since that would mean two mafia players were at the top as lynch candidates the previous cycle. The night kills on day one also seem to favor a mafia Sent. The reasoning give by sent to vote Ace really seems unnatural to me. Despite being near certain on vayne, his attempt to push the lynch is pretty weak.

I'm aware that I posted mafia reads on four players, with only three remaining.

prplhz
Ace
Vivax
[UoN]Sentinel
layabout (?)

At least two of these players is town, but this is the group I believe we should lynch into, obviously starting with Ace. With any luck, one of them takes a night hit or cop check. As for who is my preferred lynch out of this group following Ace, I haven't decided yet. If I'm still alive tomorrow, I'll probably write up a more focused case. We need to make sure that we continue discussion tomorrow and not get caught up in any thread disruption or laziness. Look at the direction the mafia is trying to push the thread with the night hits and be willing to reevaluation your reads. Abuse the blue roles once mafia only has a single kp.

I'm vanilla. Cop should claim last in my opinion, in case they have a red check on a player that claims non-vanilla (though we still lynch Ace).
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 23:06 GMT
#1095
^_^
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 09 2013 23:13 GMT
#1102
On June 10 2013 08:09 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 08:06 kitaman27 wrote:
^_^


nice shot last night Kita. Couldn't have picked a better target myself. [image loading]


I do what I can.

##Vote Ace
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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