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Hurndall3
Profile Joined May 2013
237 Posts
June 08 2013 00:56 GMT
#801
If Ecc is town, and TomB4 is town, then why would mafia give a fuck what wagon they were on yesterday?
Nothing happens until you reach the fifth row, halfway, and then the entire board becomes a death trap.
Hurndall3
Profile Joined May 2013
237 Posts
June 08 2013 00:58 GMT
#802
@SMCC can you see any reason why a HW/PT scumteam wouldn't make sense? I want to pick your brain before you die.
Nothing happens until you reach the fifth row, halfway, and then the entire board becomes a death trap.
TheDavison
Profile Joined May 2013
157 Posts
June 08 2013 01:18 GMT
#803
On June 08 2013 09:44 Hurndall3 wrote:
@smcc
look at my most recent post on ecc
There are things he says that look VERY town, even if his play isn't very pro-town.
MSmith's vote analysis makes Ecc look very bad, but there's one problem with MSmith's argument:
It assumes that PT is town. If PT is scum along with DrT, then suddenly his entire analysis is irrelevant.

Actually. i beg to differ, but will present something different.

I am cleaning the house currently, and was thinking about the game and was musing in my head:

why would Eccleston try and get a SMcCoy lynch?

Anyone who read the game will know SMcCoy is town for two highly specific reasons from Day1.

(1) The back and forth with Dr.T is genuine and could not be faked. They were playing cat n mouse, and SMcCoy won.
and more importantly
(2) MSmith1, (who is confirmed town) kept saying he completely agreed with the points SMcCoy was raising.
i.e. MSmcCoy is thinking EXAXTLY like a well-reasoned townie should.

Regardless of lowering presence since Night 1, SMcCoy is town.


Eccleston 2.0 said he read the game, this should be abundantly clear. Yet when SMcCoy has a badly-timed vent; who tries to pounce on the opportunity?

Eccleston 2.0 who has done nothing since coming in.

This can only come from scum agenda.

I actually believe Eccleston when he said he was demotived.. he came into a game and was a lynch candidate for things he didnt do.
However, contrast this with my behaviour.

I came into the game as a lynch candidate, and knowing I am town, I had the confidence to immediately rebut the cases put forth against me.

Eccleston on the other hand, is demotivated as the points are valid.

I start sticking up for him, and suddenly he has the confidence to push scum agenda (i.e. lynch SMcCoy). Yet did not rebut any of the cases against him as promised. This is pretty damn scummy.


So in short, I could not reconcile why a townie would try and push for a SMcCoy lynch. Just cos the guy had a badly timed vent, does not make him scum. I think this action was a scum slip from Eccleston.

I also coultn reconcile his "demotivated" post. Because it was written in a way that was very hard to weird (i.e. the paragraphs was all in one block). I think this was a specific tactic by Eccleston to hide behind.
I dont think he lied about being demotivated (because replacing in, when votes are cast on you is demotivating for both town and scum).

Come Day4, I am voting for Eccleston.

Will figure out last scum after Eccleston is eliminated.

The illusion is always one of normality.
Hurndall3
Profile Joined May 2013
237 Posts
June 08 2013 01:22 GMT
#804
TD I am not done reading filters but I'm really sure Ecc is scum. Please keep an open mind to my upcoming posts.

Also realize this: a town Ecc was demotivated as fuck and very disconnected from the game. So disconnected that he didn't realize Smcc is obv town like we do.

I think it was simply a case of activity without intellect behind it.
Nothing happens until you reach the fifth row, halfway, and then the entire board becomes a death trap.
Hurndall3
Profile Joined May 2013
237 Posts
June 08 2013 01:23 GMT
#805
edwop i'm really sure ECC is NOT scum
Nothing happens until you reach the fifth row, halfway, and then the entire board becomes a death trap.
PTroughton2
Profile Joined May 2013
82 Posts
June 08 2013 01:25 GMT
#806
On June 08 2013 10:18 TheDavison wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 09:44 Hurndall3 wrote:
@smcc
look at my most recent post on ecc
There are things he says that look VERY town, even if his play isn't very pro-town.
MSmith's vote analysis makes Ecc look very bad, but there's one problem with MSmith's argument:
It assumes that PT is town. If PT is scum along with DrT, then suddenly his entire analysis is irrelevant.

Actually. i beg to differ, but will present something different.

I am cleaning the house currently, and was thinking about the game and was musing in my head:

why would Eccleston try and get a SMcCoy lynch?

Anyone who read the game will know SMcCoy is town for two highly specific reasons from Day1.

(1) The back and forth with Dr.T is genuine and could not be faked. They were playing cat n mouse, and SMcCoy won.
and more importantly
(2) MSmith1, (who is confirmed town) kept saying he completely agreed with the points SMcCoy was raising.
i.e. MSmcCoy is thinking EXAXTLY like a well-reasoned townie should.

Regardless of lowering presence since Night 1, SMcCoy is town.


Eccleston 2.0 said he read the game, this should be abundantly clear. Yet when SMcCoy has a badly-timed vent; who tries to pounce on the opportunity?

Eccleston 2.0 who has done nothing since coming in.

This can only come from scum agenda.

I actually believe Eccleston when he said he was demotived.. he came into a game and was a lynch candidate for things he didnt do.
However, contrast this with my behaviour.

I came into the game as a lynch candidate, and knowing I am town, I had the confidence to immediately rebut the cases put forth against me.

Eccleston on the other hand, is demotivated as the points are valid.

I start sticking up for him, and suddenly he has the confidence to push scum agenda (i.e. lynch SMcCoy). Yet did not rebut any of the cases against him as promised. This is pretty damn scummy.


So in short, I could not reconcile why a townie would try and push for a SMcCoy lynch. Just cos the guy had a badly timed vent, does not make him scum. I think this action was a scum slip from Eccleston.

I also coultn reconcile his "demotivated" post. Because it was written in a way that was very hard to weird (i.e. the paragraphs was all in one block). I think this was a specific tactic by Eccleston to hide behind.
I dont think he lied about being demotivated (because replacing in, when votes are cast on you is demotivating for both town and scum).

Come Day4, I am voting for Eccleston.

Will figure out last scum after Eccleston is eliminated.


Let's make it happen.

Also did the forum break momentarily for anyone else or was it just me getting "no such username" errors?
Just one small question: Why do you want to blow up the world?
Hurndall3
Profile Joined May 2013
237 Posts
June 08 2013 01:34 GMT
#807
HW explain your townread of PT.

And vice versa.
Nothing happens until you reach the fifth row, halfway, and then the entire board becomes a death trap.
HartnellWill
Profile Joined May 2013
40 Posts
June 08 2013 01:42 GMT
#808
He didn't set off my scumdar yet.

Night ends in 18 minutes right?
Machines can make laws, but they can not preserve justice. Only human beings can do that.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 02:00:43
June 08 2013 02:00 GMT
#809
Day 4


A McGann a Facility Scientist! has been killed.

+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to Smurf Mini Maifa I! You are a Facility Scientist, your name is Martha Rendell and you are... less than enthused... about the prospect of aliens. You weren't exactly thrilled to be here in the first place, as a xenobiologist barren frozen wastelands aren't exactly your cup of tea. That said these aliens are an interesting opportunity, the Derridian are one of the most interesting xeno species humanity has ever encountered. Now if you could just get one dead enough to try to stop killing people and lay on the examination table, this year may not have been entirely wasted.


It is now day 4, you know the drill.
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Hurndall3
Profile Joined May 2013
237 Posts
June 08 2013 02:01 GMT
#810
On June 08 2013 10:42 HartnellWill wrote:
He didn't set off my scumdar yet.

Night ends in 18 minutes right?


yes he did

On May 31 2013 05:00 HartnellWill wrote:
##Vote DrTennant. Other than skimming the thread, Tennant's filter is surprisingly empty of anything that would contribute to town. Mostly asking others to do work for him while he sits and waits and gets his postcount up.

And while I'm reading PT2's case right now, it wouldn't be a surprise to see both of them role scum. DrT votes him without saying another word. Sheeping the wagon that isn't him because it isn't him that will get killed if it goes through.


Also the reason you say DrT is scummy is not the reason he was scummy at all.
Nothing happens until you reach the fifth row, halfway, and then the entire board becomes a death trap.
HartnellWill
Profile Joined May 2013
40 Posts
June 08 2013 02:03 GMT
#811
Oh right back when he had 3 posts and one had value?
Machines can make laws, but they can not preserve justice. Only human beings can do that.
TheDavison
Profile Joined May 2013
157 Posts
June 08 2013 02:03 GMT
#812
lol. weird kill

i reckon trying to setup mccoy.

GG A.McGann
The illusion is always one of normality.
HartnellWill
Profile Joined May 2013
40 Posts
June 08 2013 02:04 GMT
#813
On June 08 2013 11:03 HartnellWill wrote:
Oh right back when he had 3 posts and one had value?


And was run by an entirely different person?

##Vote: Eccleston
Machines can make laws, but they can not preserve justice. Only human beings can do that.
TheDavison
Profile Joined May 2013
157 Posts
June 08 2013 02:05 GMT
#814
Lol.. all the ppl who said

Eccleston is town is dead

(i.e Tom + A.McGann)

BTW, for all those doubting McCoy because he is still alive & the past 2 days has been a touch wishy-washy between targets.

Just think of personality 2 with Marv. He was town, and the leader.. and scum kept him alive to impose doubt (and because he was on the wrong path).

I still think smccoy is town for the reasons i listed earlier.

peace out.
The illusion is always one of normality.
Hurndall3
Profile Joined May 2013
237 Posts
June 08 2013 02:10 GMT
#815
yup mcgann died because he thought Ecc is town.
Ecc IS TOWN. Do you think it's a coincidence that PT and HW (both scummy fucks) are now pushing him uber hard in tandem?
Nothing happens until you reach the fifth row, halfway, and then the entire board becomes a death trap.
PTroughton2
Profile Joined May 2013
82 Posts
June 08 2013 02:16 GMT
#816
On June 08 2013 10:34 Hurndall3 wrote:
HW explain your townread of PT.

And vice versa.

I'm voting Eccleston today, so I hope you can wait until the weekend is over. Mostly recently I just noticed (before I started getting errors trying to get through filters) that Eccleston opted out of commenting -- at all -- for the entire night phase after the lynch other than a one-word comment immediately after the flip. The evidence compounds with the VCA and NK analysis.

Remind me about this question if I forget to address it when I return from my familial engagement.

##Vote Eccleston
Just one small question: Why do you want to blow up the world?
TheDavison
Profile Joined May 2013
157 Posts
June 08 2013 02:16 GMT
#817
hmmm.. it is valid food for thought actually.

Look I didnt vote with Hartnell because I haven't made up my mind on what to do this day yet.

My plan of attack is:
I am going to re-read each day, and jot my pro/cons of each player for each day.

This will probably be my last post until this action is done.

I will give you this H3.
I also need to re-read PT very carefully. I have assumed PT2000 is town based on effort alone [since every fucking town read has just decided to disappear] - not because he was right about Tom.
I need to check what he has been pushing and if the thoughts are genuine.



H3, if Eccelston is town.
Try and explain to me why a townie would push SMcCoy out of all people?
Even when SMcCoy had a fit and said he just wants you/HW "OUT". You two didnt try to lead a lynch.

Where is town motivation for this? And do you think my scum motivation is over the top (i.e. saw an opportunity to stab the town leader in the back in a vulnerable moment?)
The illusion is always one of normality.
HartnellWill
Profile Joined May 2013
40 Posts
June 08 2013 02:21 GMT
#818
On June 08 2013 11:10 Hurndall3 wrote:
yup mcgann died because he thought Ecc is town.
Ecc IS TOWN. Do you think it's a coincidence that PT and HW (both scummy fucks) are now pushing him uber hard in tandem?


Is there a coincidence that you're a scummy fuck and you're defending him?
Machines can make laws, but they can not preserve justice. Only human beings can do that.
Hurndall3
Profile Joined May 2013
237 Posts
June 08 2013 02:46 GMT
#819
On June 08 2013 11:21 HartnellWill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 11:10 Hurndall3 wrote:
yup mcgann died because he thought Ecc is town.
Ecc IS TOWN. Do you think it's a coincidence that PT and HW (both scummy fucks) are now pushing him uber hard in tandem?


Is there a coincidence that you're a scummy fuck and you're defending him?


Unlike you, I have reasons for my townreads.
Nothing happens until you reach the fifth row, halfway, and then the entire board becomes a death trap.
Hurndall3
Profile Joined May 2013
237 Posts
June 08 2013 02:52 GMT
#820
On June 08 2013 11:16 TheDavison wrote:
H3, if Eccelston is town.
Try and explain to me why a townie would push SMcCoy out of all people?
Even when SMcCoy had a fit and said he just wants you/HW "OUT". You two didnt try to lead a lynch.

Where is town motivation for this? And do you think my scum motivation is over the top (i.e. saw an opportunity to stab the town leader in the back in a vulnerable moment?)


ECC's townstory is consistent and believable.
He did not read the game carefully enough to comprehend SmCC's towncred. Can't you see how someone saying "bad town is pissing me off I want them to die" can be construed as scummy? Because it looks like he wants to lynch people for being bad instead of being scum.
Here is a question: Why would scum push SMcCoy at that time? Really there is no reason. there were plenty of other scummy townies (myself included) that would be better choices.
Nothing happens until you reach the fifth row, halfway, and then the entire board becomes a death trap.
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