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MSmith1
Profile Joined May 2013
59 Posts
June 04 2013 00:20 GMT
#421
back. fuck. Tough decisions to be made here
I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
Baker1986
Profile Joined May 2013
217 Posts
June 04 2013 00:20 GMT
#422
It's too late to change the lynch. We can deal with it tomorrow if we're wrong.
Well if it doesn't, I shall beat it into submission... with my charm.
A McGann
Profile Joined May 2013
81 Posts
June 04 2013 00:22 GMT
#423
We cannot officially confirm the claim, no.

But what we can do is see what happens tonight.

If there is only a single KP, then they probably didn't delay the KP on N1, therefore JP is probably telling the truth.

IF there's two KP, well he's lying and we lynch him tomorrow.

Now, if he's lying and they double stack their delayed KP, it will look like he's telling the truth, but the net outcome is we force them to doublestack where they probably wouldn't have, and save a townie. I consider that worthwhile, as good as an actual medic.

They have no vigilante to mess with the results as mafia vig isn't in the setup. The strongarm cant spread his KP, only increase the power of the already delivered one, so that will look exactly the same to us.

The universe hangs by such a delicate thread of points, it's useless to meddle with it.
PTroughton2
Profile Joined May 2013
82 Posts
June 04 2013 00:22 GMT
#424
Deadline is coming soon? I replaced in a lot later than I thought. Uhhh...

Summarize for me why we should lynch an un-counter-claimed medic?

I'm liking a Hartnell lynch at the moment based on just having a look, you're going to have to sell me on JP.
Just one small question: Why do you want to blow up the world?
PTroughton2
Profile Joined May 2013
82 Posts
June 04 2013 00:25 GMT
#425
##Vote: HartnellWill
Just one small question: Why do you want to blow up the world?
A McGann
Profile Joined May 2013
81 Posts
June 04 2013 00:28 GMT
#426
On June 04 2013 09:20 Baker1986 wrote:
It's too late to change the lynch. We can deal with it tomorrow if we're wrong.


We still have 90 minutes.

Its not worth doing anything until McCoy shows up.
The universe hangs by such a delicate thread of points, it's useless to meddle with it.
A McGann
Profile Joined May 2013
81 Posts
June 04 2013 00:31 GMT
#427
On June 04 2013 09:22 A McGann wrote:
We cannot officially confirm the claim, no.

But what we can do is see what happens tonight.

If there is only a single KP, then they probably didn't delay the KP on N1, therefore JP is probably telling the truth.

IF there's two KP, well he's lying and we lynch him tomorrow.

Now, if he's lying and they double stack their delayed KP, it will look like he's telling the truth, but the net outcome is we force them to doublestack where they probably wouldn't have, and save a townie. I consider that worthwhile, as good as an actual medic.

They have no vigilante to mess with the results as mafia vig isn't in the setup. The strongarm cant spread his KP, only increase the power of the already delivered one, so that will look exactly the same to us.



Mrph no this doesn't work.

Bah. Why didn't I roll the medic.
The universe hangs by such a delicate thread of points, it's useless to meddle with it.
MSmith1
Profile Joined May 2013
59 Posts
June 04 2013 00:34 GMT
#428
What do you guys think of his "breadcrumb"? It irritates me. Like wtf was the point of that. Over halfway into D2 he "crumbs" his save on me, only to full-on claim medic like 8 hours later.

Feels like he wanted to claim 8 hours ago but then was like shit I need a breadcrumb, so he posted a "crumb" and then claimed a bit later.

If you're gonna crumb your prot target, wouldn't you do it before the daypost?
I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
A McGann
Profile Joined May 2013
81 Posts
June 04 2013 00:36 GMT
#429
Mmmm its not the greatest claim.

I think Baker is right. We're going to have to follow through here, pick up the pieces tomorrow.
The universe hangs by such a delicate thread of points, it's useless to meddle with it.
MSmith1
Profile Joined May 2013
59 Posts
June 04 2013 00:37 GMT
#430
Also, as a point of fact, scum has at most 2 shots tonight right? I don't see how they could possibly have 3.
I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
A McGann
Profile Joined May 2013
81 Posts
June 04 2013 00:43 GMT
#431
Yes. They could have 3 effective KP if they delayed night 1, then strongarmed one of those KP. There would then be two shots, one with a power of one, one with a power of two.

But as far as 3 individual kills, no, not possible.
The universe hangs by such a delicate thread of points, it's useless to meddle with it.
PTroughton2
Profile Joined May 2013
82 Posts
June 04 2013 00:50 GMT
#432
Are we at majority with the 6 votes from the last vote count? I'm not 100% sure because math, but I will switch to ensure a lynch. Still would prefer Hartnell if enough show up to make that happen.

The JP claim feels like a reconciliation from him for not being able to be around today due to RL or whatever, and while making RL excuses in mafia is frowned upon, it's simply a fact that it happens.

To make sure we get a lynch.
##unvote
##vote JPertwee
Just one small question: Why do you want to blow up the world?
MSmith1
Profile Joined May 2013
59 Posts
June 04 2013 00:51 GMT
#433
oh i see what you mean.


On June 04 2013 06:15 JPertwee wrote:
Phone posting. Didn't have the time I wanted today, sorry, guys. marine guard here. Protected Smith last night. Towniest looking person who was still showing real signs of critical thought. Referenced in list post as almost confirmed town, that was the clue that I protected him. Realized afterwards aliens may have held their shot. So no confirmed town for me or him. Aliens potentially have 3 shots tonight. Can't confirm either of us because of this. If no kills tonight both of us confirmed.


Blech I don't like the idea of lynching claimed medics, but I don't like his claim.

The crumb smells funny. Like why crumb at all if you're gonna crumb so late? Also, why do you even need to crumb if you think you are confirmed town? He claims that he thought the deathless night made him confirmed town. But then why crumb? Also do you feel like he would have claimed earlier if he actually thought he were confirmed town instead of writing a shitton of defense posts?

Also is he really naive enough to believe he's confirmed town? AMG mentioned the delayed mechanic early on in the thread. Also there's a possibility of veteran. Or even a second medic.

Do you guys find any of that convincing?

My gut says scum.

I still feel uneasy though. I feel like there is a distinct possibility that he flips medic, which would suck really badly.

Hmmmmmmmm. I think the best course of action would be for us all to stare at his filter and hopefully be able to definitively prove whether he is lying or not. Somehow.

Sorry for rambling. I'm in frantic mode.
I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
MSmith1
Profile Joined May 2013
59 Posts
June 04 2013 01:00 GMT
#434
Will Eccleston be modkilled with the night post if he doesn't vote?
And can we get a votecount?
I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
SMcCoy
Profile Joined May 2013
228 Posts
June 04 2013 01:20 GMT
#435
On June 04 2013 09:34 MSmith1 wrote:
What do you guys think of his "breadcrumb"? It irritates me. Like wtf was the point of that. Over halfway into D2 he "crumbs" his save on me, only to full-on claim medic like 8 hours later.

Feels like he wanted to claim 8 hours ago but then was like shit I need a breadcrumb, so he posted a "crumb" and then claimed a bit later.

If you're gonna crumb your prot target, wouldn't you do it before the daypost?


It's not really a crumb if he did it D2.

It's really easy to decide here though, but I fear we don't have the time nor the players to pull through a switch.

He lied: He survives this night. Scum has no reason to keep the medic alive, and they wouldn't risk one of their two KP not going through, or their only KP if someone was saved last night.

He spoke the truth: He dies tonight.

What do people think of a TomB4 lynch? His absence since his last posts until now looks quite shite and he was the only guy openly defending DrT.
We all have a universe of our own terrors to face.
A McGann
Profile Joined May 2013
81 Posts
June 04 2013 01:27 GMT
#436
I like it better than this one. To be blunt: My vote goes where your vote goes.
The universe hangs by such a delicate thread of points, it's useless to meddle with it.
MSmith1
Profile Joined May 2013
59 Posts
June 04 2013 01:30 GMT
#437
I feel like if he was actually medic and actually thought he got a save on me there should be more obvious indication in his filter.

Any of the following would qualify
  • saying something like 'wow great save" or "awesome no deaths'
  • much earlier indication that he thinks I am town
  • referring to the events of last night as "a save" as opposed to "a deathless night"
  • getting tired of defending himself and playing the 'confirmed town' card (I don't know many players that are actually that patient)


Ugh I'm so conflicted. Like he could be medic and if he is it would suck to lynch him today, but i feel like there should be some additional evidence somewhere in his filter. This is probably the most unconvincing claim I've personally encountered.




I'm not really a fan of lynching TB4. I've only skimmed the events of the last few pages, but my conclusion on him after D1 was probably town. Don't really have time to go into detail.

I'd probably advocate a Eccleston lynch but he's probably going to be modkilled in 30 minutes so I don't see any point wasting our precious lynch on him. He hasn't posted in like 3 days.

HW I could maybe get behind. I dunno.

You forget the possibility that scum roleblocks JP. It wouldn't be the first time scum withheld a RB on N1. Or JP is scum and claims he is roleblocked and we are put in a similar position tomorrow. I'm really not sure whether scum would shoot him tonight if he is actually medic.
I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
SMcCoy
Profile Joined May 2013
228 Posts
June 04 2013 01:30 GMT
#438
90 % of me says the claim is fake though, simply cause of what he calls crumb. But if we get at least 7 people voting for an alternative with the name of Tom I'd be in to see JP prove his innocence tonight.

Type #OK if you would be in for such a voteswing. If we count 7 we're free to vote I guess.

Sidenote: Eccleston was the only proper counterbandwagon for scum if we are right. Looks like the guy is cruising for a modkill.

On June 04 2013 07:07 TomB4 wrote:
JPertwee claiming medic.....

There's still so few posts...I'd be down to kill JP or HW but with no one posting there's almost no way to tell who's scum and who's just afking as town.


Just noticed you posting this, I don't really get what you're saying. JP claiming medic and you're down to kill him or HW? Did you mistype?
We all have a universe of our own terrors to face.
MSmith1
Profile Joined May 2013
59 Posts
June 04 2013 01:34 GMT
#439
If 90% of you says he is scum I feel we should lynch him.

This is where I'm at:
probably a good lynch but potentially terrible: JP
probably a pointless lynch: eccleston
a fine lynch: HW
idk cuz I've only skimmed the majority of his filter: Trout
probably a bad lynch: TB4, Davison

I will switch my vote if necessary to secure a lynch though, whoever we decide.
I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
A McGann
Profile Joined May 2013
81 Posts
June 04 2013 01:36 GMT
#440
We only need 6 for a lynch today:

11/2 is 5.5, rounded down, 5, plus 1, 6.

#OK
The universe hangs by such a delicate thread of points, it's useless to meddle with it.
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