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On May 19 2013 08:09 Zephirdd wrote:In case people didn't realize it, I am a vigilante and I just shot sharrant. I guess I was wrong -_- I'm River Song. Fluff says I met the doctor on the wrong order blablabla and I have a bullet, which I just spent. Breadcumbs on first post: Show nested quote +I could have a gun and point my flashlight to an angel, but I would not know it unless I had knowledge of my own handle(the letter on the board). Also, A and B are town. Like, A and B are confirmed town. Which means we don't lynch oats nor deconduo. That's how I'm interpreting it at least; or does puppets show as green to lanterns? A = deconduo GREEN B = oats GREEN C = phagga F = Sentinel G = Zephirdd H = ghost I = mkfuba phagga has been playing blatantly town this game. which leaves Sentinel, ghost and mkfuba.
Puppets are green I assume, since their game pieces are green. We have no confirmation that either Dec or Oats are green.
You've answered my next question, which is which side the vig belongs to. I thought it would be an angel though, didn't think your bullet could shoot that far.
I'm still gunning for ghost. He's lurking far too much and far too conveniently. He was completely absent for the feryl lynch discussion and the run-up to it.
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On May 19 2013 08:19 Zephirdd wrote:
It wasnt far. I asked sharrant to move towards me. I was adjacent to him.
Ah I see.
This many blues is leaving me once again in doubt of Dec's color. I'm not ready to point my finger at him yet though.
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Ghost prematurely buses Vivax when I accuse him, taking advantage of his mistake to distance him in case Vivax gets lynched (as he did).
It seems passionate and poorly thought out. He's not trying to figure out Sentinel's alignment, or really thinking about what's going on; he's trying to push him onto the defensive and start an easy lynch. It kind of looks like he immediately dropped it, but it is kind of hard to tell at this point in the game.
Until someone convinces me that leaving Vivax in game is a good idea,
##vote vivax
And ends his post in a manner that makes it look like he's certain Vivax is scum (which he is) off of one paragraph of reasoning.
When Oats slips he posts this:
On May 17 2013 11:04 ghost_403 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2013 11:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On May 17 2013 10:38 Zephirdd wrote:On May 17 2013 10:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
I moved 3 steps up and looked up.
That makes me B right? How did you send your PM to the hosts? This is important. Anyone reading this, do not answer. Oatsmaster, how did you send your PM? How did you want to move? I sent my PM, 'move 3 steps up and look up.' I wanted to move here. I wanted to move here. That's a curious thing to say.
And then launches into his analysis of the players. Note that in his 11:17 post, he doesn't mention this oddity, but instead builds a sizable case on Sharrant. But then Zeph during this time points out the scumslip and ghost chucks his case out the window to get on the Oatsmaster wagon.
Only then does he begin to build a case on the one alleged scumslip, writing with the conviction that Oats is scum. He doesn't stop to consider the alternatives, and I know this because his case severely weakens when Zephirdd presents a counterargument, and disappears after Oats' justification.
This is why we lynch ghost_403
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EBWOP: Might help to follow along in ghosts filter. Its all on page one, from the quoted post at 11:04 onwards. I'm on my phone again and it's hard to copy and paste quotes with my fat fingers
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Is everyone still sleeping or something? This thread's been deathly quiet for some time
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To answer your green question, they both stop.
What is that three votes on ghost? Get your asses in here sheepies, and put on your lynching pants, it's action time.
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On May 20 2013 03:03 Zephirdd wrote:
Sentinel where are your spreadsheet notes
Ima post those more sparingly. Partially I don't want scum to see my complete thought process, partially because manipulating the colors on google docs is a fucking nightmare from my phone. I'll do it would out of necessity.
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EBWOP there should not be a "would" in that last sentence
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Fucking shit Oats vote in the voting thread for once
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Your last part is wrong. It only says an angel takes precedence, so the implication is that if you move forward 3 and only actually move 2 when movement is resolved, then an angel is invisible in the third box.
Or in this case since you're going forward, the red angel will be illuminated in your flashlight
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The interesting thing is how the discussion developed and concluded itself this early on. There is still time for the ghost lynch to be pulled astray by the remaining duo of angels. The lynch is in 18 hours; the Oats wagon started in less than 18 minutes.
I must stress to you all the importance of keeping your vote on ghost because of this.
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Yes, that is the plan for now
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Aaaah holy shit. Everything went bad for me today.
First off the reason I didn't move. + Show Spoiler +I was suntanning on my roof since about 12 PM my time (5:10 currently for me, for reference) and I fell off. Luckily my house has two roofs and I fell from the upper one to the lower one. I got banged up hard, nothing that required medical attention but there was a decent amount of blood and I spent a while cleaning it up.
Second off I was extremely convinced ghost would flip scum. I had a mini heart attack when I saw he was townie.
Luckily I'm still alive and I wrote down a case last night for my next lynch target. I'll update it with the current circumstances and share with you all.
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Oh and phagga, the part that gave me a red read on Oats was "I wanted to move here". Once he justified that part, I saw my error.
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Here is the analysis I wrote last night on who I thought was going to be the last remaining angel.
I have been aware of the third scum for some time now. In fact, he was hiding under my nose the third time. The third angel is Deconduo.
I became aware of this shortly before the fferyllt lynch. Look at page 3 of his filter. In order, he implicitly accuses ghost, feryl and oats without offering substantial evidence for any lynch. Actually he did accuse ghost beforehand, but only when he felt it was safe to do so - when I pointed out ghost's slip in accusing vivax and not myself. I thought it was distancing but it still appears to make sense with a towny ghost and a scummy dec. He can soft accuse feryl or oats and incite others to actually push for their lynch, without seeming like a catalyst for a mislynch (of feryl) in the event that either of them flip town. This is a very scummy action.
But this can be construed as an indecisive townie in some way, so we couldn't rule out the possibility that he was in fact, a detective. But then he makes his next mistake - offering absolute zero pro-town information. In fact, he fills the thread with complaints and questions that he could not reach and check Oatsmaster.
On May 19 2013 08:08 deconduo wrote:
Also the sharrant kill doesn't look like it was an angel feeding. If it was, it should say he was sent back in time. Seeing as there was a neck snapped as well, I'd guess that was a 3rd party kill.
This is the only post of the time period that breaks this trend. Note the implications of the third party here - we are not only to hunt the 2 scums but find a third player who may be something like SK. He is distracting from our prime directive at this point. Luckily Zeph steps in as the vig. But this takes the cake:
I suppose his teammate is just bussing him rather than risking his head.
This (as well as the post it was contained in) confirmed my read on deconduo when I was looking at the reasons people were voting for ghost. Deconduo sheeped my case without any constructive remarks to silently align himself behind the mislynch. Using his soft accusations he can quickly sheep any player he previously accused, here being ghost.
And then, he plays dumb to further his standing as detective. By making all these questions, which the mod had already answered, dec keeps implying he is a detective and by extension so is Oats. So why would an actual detective want to waste another valuable night confirming someone he already knows? No, scum deconduo has been clouding up the process of finding scum with questions about a known mechanic in the game. And the hardest part of today has been watching Deconduo dig himself his own grave and say nothing about it until the time is right.
On May 20 2013 10:11 deconduo wrote:
Also BH used his illumination skill and both of us are showing up as human in that as well.
And in the end, he still tries to paint himself green.
This is the plan. We lynch deconduo next night.
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On May 21 2013 06:24 phagga wrote:your only reaction was this: Show nested quote +On May 17 2013 11:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Before anything interesting happens with Oats, I'd just like to add as a side-note that I'm not updating the spreadsheet until my next session of analysis. Just in case any of my reads change, it won't be reflected in the May 16 column.
Thank you and good night. And then the vote. also, it was clear that several people were voting him because he used absolute movements instead of relative. However, you never mentioned that you used only absolute movements as well. Why not?
I used relative as well. I turned left, then from that reference frame I moved two right and 1 up. Up being forward.
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On May 21 2013 07:02 phagga wrote:
Ok, now I feel like a complete moron.
##Unvote
Happens to the best of us.
Speaking of which I forgot to add my vote.
Vote: deconduo
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1. You said nothing about goats after your initial push. You only mention him once in passing and say nothing until I reintroduce his lynchwagon.
2. Zero impact does not constitute scum play. New players tend to lurk. Actually if you pushed ghost and found scum like an actual towny ghost would be lynched one night faster And maybe feryl would have done something instead of getting sheeped. He turned out to be town, but we would have been able to rectify that mislynch by today.
3. This falls under the category of "useless posts intended to confuse". We already learned from the mods several days ago that all of the pieces on the board are human or puppet humans. Note that in his infinite wisdom, Crossfire labeled angels as red on the key. Do you see any red pieces on the board?
(Well you might because you're scum, I don't know, do you guys have a secret doc)
Hence any post where you said either of you were human or puppet was scummy.
4. Or you know... you're setting up an Oats mislynch. Not evident in itself but it's a probable conclusion if one believes Dec is scum. Which I do.
5. It's lynch or lose today, my friend. The only way I die tomorrow is if you and your confederate kill me tonight. (I'm implying its a scumslip)
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A weeping angel will be recognizable when a flashlight is shone on it.
Implies that when a flashlight is not shone on it, an angel will not be recognizable.
Also, with angels visible this game would be broken as fuck. If you thought Oats' player piece was an angel I don't see why you would sacrifice yourself, an alleged blue, just so Oats can get lynched the next day.
Note that greymist answered the question whereas crossfire was the one that didn't. Maybe cross was mad because people weren't reading the thread and asked a question that the hosts already answered.
Here he is answering again:
On April 16 2013 03:21 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 01:37 Acrofales wrote:
Hrmmmm, if scum knows all positions of everybody, what is there to stop a mass position claim. If the scum try to lie about their positions, they are screwed when movements don't add up (after a while). If they don't lie, then you can deduce who's scum by following who everybody was near at what point and eliminating based on KP?
It looks like a very interesting game, but it seems like it should be breakable by claims. Read under angel powers, they have a number of fake people they control on the board
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