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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
May 16 2013 11:23 GMT
#321
I didn't even realize he had written that.

Sentinel gets townie points for pointing out a selectivity that would favor him.
I'm just troubled with ghost showing a preference at all. It's possible he and sentinel are scumbuddies, but why does sentinel point it out then?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 16 2013 11:37 GMT
#322
That post is so bad that I could see it coming from a townie, actually. I'd rather expect him to do some forced bullshit push, or jump on the bandwagon against me at this point, not apologize and admit that he's got nothing to contribute.

Um nope, mafia are known for posting a good looking/longish post not saying anything cause they dont actually need to scumhunt. That looks a lot like a scum first post after not being there.
No gg, No skill.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
May 16 2013 11:38 GMT
#323
On May 16 2013 19:58 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 16 2013 19:38 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 16 2013 18:34 Vivax wrote:
On May 16 2013 18:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 16 2013 17:16 mkfuba07 wrote:
Hey all. Sorry I've been completely inactive. I have one more final tomorrow and then I'm out for the summer. I've been keeping up as best I can, but I don't have any particularly convinced reads at the moment. I have a few people I'm averse to lynching, but that's about it.

I don't have any unique insight to add. I'm not really ready to place a vote, and I don't feel like I've seen anything I could point at and say, "Yes, I find this scummy." My D1 vote is probably going to the person who I have least reason to believe is town, but I won't be able to actively participate and figure out who that is until I'm done with my last exam in a few hours.

Oh, as for mechanics, etc. I'm down with the "reveal our movements shortly before the daypost" plan. It definitely seems best to at least find where we all are on the map, try to decrease the information advantage of the angels.

WHY WOULD YOU POST?/?????????
god. Why?


To not get modkilled maybe.
Do you think that post looks scummy?

yes.
13 pages. And he has no reads. Like where is the town motivation for posting this post? It does not help town at all. At all.
So he says he has reads. But oh man I dont really wanna share them cause they are MINE, MINE!!!!!!. Also he overexplains his acceptance of the obviously great plan.


Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 00:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 16 2013 00:22 marvellosity wrote:
On May 16 2013 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 16 2013 00:20 deconduo wrote:
On May 16 2013 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
I hate plans. Plans suck.
How about for day 1. EVERYONE JUST CHOOSES RANDOM ACTIONS AND DIRECTIONS???????.

zeph and deconduo have only been talking about setup. Only. Hmm. Easy to do as scum.

Zeph, do you have reads?
Deconduo, do you have reads?


Nothing yet, but its only just started. Also this is far from your normal game, so figuring out the setup is pretty damn important. Same with plans, if we can't figure out who is who, we are just moving randomly around the board and we will lose very quickly.

plan is.

everyone claims their 3 things, direction/number of spaces moved/looking where.

K.

Moving on. Why no reads boyo?


Why don't you give your own, before asking other people for theirs?

cause thats how I roll.

Also read above.

I dont like how its quite far into the game and dudes are still discussing plans.
Also you. Why did you say that you didnt like mechanics, but still didnt scumhunt?


I hope you see the irony.


Two questions:

- What's your read on Oats
- What do you think of Sentinel's latest posting?


I'm leaning town on Oats. General behaviour fits with what I saw in Nomination. He asks a lot of questions, although he seldom shows if he actually draws any conclusions from the answer. Still, he seems interested in figuring people out.

Sentinels last posting is very minimal. It feels he felt the pressure building up, so he throws something out there to get some pressure of. BUT, the point about ghost is insightfull, and the fact that he unvotes you after ghost's vote also rather speaks for him, as if he was scum (and ghost town) he probably would have rather hoped to further push you.

Now, could you please answer my questions here?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
May 16 2013 11:42 GMT
#324
On May 16 2013 02:33 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 01:39 Zephirdd wrote:
The other useless dudes actually attempted to discuss something. Fferllt said a lot of words with no meaning or whatsoever. His latest post - questioning sentinel's whiteknighting - is probably all the substance he has made this game.

Whats your take on sentinel and deconduo?

I've given two reads so far. I'm reading all the gridboard strategy and tactics discussion but aside from deciding what I will do night 1, I probably won't contribute much until we have some data to go with the theory.

I still think you are town. Phagga appears a little followy re your scum read on me. I don't have the meta to say whether that is typical of his game, but it pushes him a little below null in my subjective list.

marvelousity's reactions to FoSes looks townish, but once again I lack the meta to make that a solid town read. he's on the town side of null atm.

Sentinel's pretty far south of null. I have a strong allergy to being WK'd by someone who knows zip about my game when the objective data says "not townish".

deconduo hasn't made an impression either way yet.


This is another example of a minimal effort after feeling pressure. He points out his townread on Zephirdd (which is worthless since he gives no reasoning), than makes two wishy-washy statement on me and marv, and finally some accusations on Sentinel without a vote. And as a reminder, that's the only real content he has posted so far.

##Vote: fferyllt
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 16 2013 11:55 GMT
#325
On May 16 2013 20:23 Vivax wrote:
I didn't even realize he had written that.

Sentinel gets townie points for pointing out a selectivity that would favor him.
I'm just troubled with ghost showing a preference at all. It's possible he and sentinel are scumbuddies, but why does sentinel point it out then?


This is a really good point. My brain hasn't managed to process a good answer since reading it yet.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 16 2013 11:59 GMT
#326
Vivax, who do you want to kill right now?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
May 16 2013 12:01 GMT
#327
@ Phagga

I feel he was needlessly antagonistic, and he didn't seem interested in setup discussion. He is more cooperative now though.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
May 16 2013 12:03 GMT
#328
Oats, could you mention reasons for me being scum?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 16 2013 12:04 GMT
#329
On May 16 2013 21:01 Vivax wrote:
@ Phagga

I feel he was needlessly antagonistic, and he didn't seem interested in setup discussion. He is more cooperative now though.

##unvote
No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
May 16 2013 12:16 GMT
#330
On May 16 2013 20:59 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax, who do you want to kill right now?


Oats cause he played like scum, and I wouldn't regret the loss if he's town. Frankly I don't understand how you can give him a townread just like that, I would like you to expand on it, and also your opinion on BH quickly abandoning the Oats option and then claiming towards me to have laid out reasoning for Oats being town, when he has only sheeped your reasoning IIRC.

As for others, I'll wait for the return of Sentinel and Ghost to comment on the situation.
Sharrant if he doesn't post more. He's usually very lengthy and insightful as town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
May 16 2013 12:19 GMT
#331
On May 16 2013 21:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 21:01 Vivax wrote:
@ Phagga

I feel he was needlessly antagonistic, and he didn't seem interested in setup discussion. He is more cooperative now though.

##unvote


If your whole reason for voting me is OMGUS, you will have to keep that vote on me brah
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
May 16 2013 12:20 GMT
#332
On May 16 2013 20:09 marvellosity wrote:
BH, you backing off the idea of Sentinel mafia and preferring Vivax? I'm still struggling to get over that early fferyltt thing to be honest.


What exactly is troubling you about fferyltt?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
May 16 2013 12:20 GMT
#333
Marv, could you answer your own question now?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 16 2013 12:23 GMT
#334
On May 16 2013 21:16 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 20:59 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax, who do you want to kill right now?


Oats cause he played like scum, and I wouldn't regret the loss if he's town. Frankly I don't understand how you can give him a townread just like that, I would like you to expand on it, and also your opinion on BH quickly abandoning the Oats option and then claiming towards me to have laid out reasoning for Oats being town, when he has only sheeped your reasoning IIRC.

As for others, I'll wait for the return of Sentinel and Ghost to comment on the situation.
Sharrant if he doesn't post more. He's usually very lengthy and insightful as town.


Well, BH only kinda sheeped what I said about Oats, except he actually went back for himself and found the proof of what I had suggested. The crux of his case was the anti-setup shizzle which we know now Oats has done before.

Oats is posting a lot, and while I have much greater difficulty reading him than a month or two ago, I still don't think he likes being the centre of attention so much when he's mafia, he prefers to lurk a little more.

Apologies if you've explained before, but could you recap why Oats is playing like mafia? Or how/why he's playing differently to how town Oats usually plays?

Sharrant's absence is pretty annoying, yes.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 16 2013 12:29 GMT
#335
On May 16 2013 21:20 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 20:09 marvellosity wrote:
BH, you backing off the idea of Sentinel mafia and preferring Vivax? I'm still struggling to get over that early fferyltt thing to be honest.


What exactly is troubling you about fferyltt?


I mean Sentinel's extremely odd posting towards ferry's opening post, the 'over-eager' and 'honest mistake' stuff. It's just SO weird.

And I'm calling him ferry or something from now on, fuck writing that username out.

On May 16 2013 21:20 Vivax wrote:
Marv, could you answer your own question now?


I'm still ok with my vote on ghost for now, but I'm not very sure about it. There's like a whole load of outstanding situations that require people to post more really.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
May 16 2013 12:31 GMT
#336
On May 16 2013 21:01 Vivax wrote:
@ Phagga

I feel he was needlessly antagonistic, and he didn't seem interested in setup discussion. He is more cooperative now though.


But HOW does his playstyle help mafia? And I never thought he was not interested in setup discussion, he just thought we are overdoing it / making useless plans. After all he seems to agree with the general plan of claiming movements to figure out who is who on the board.

Also, have you ever played with Oats before?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
May 16 2013 12:32 GMT
#337
On May 16 2013 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 21:20 phagga wrote:
On May 16 2013 20:09 marvellosity wrote:
BH, you backing off the idea of Sentinel mafia and preferring Vivax? I'm still struggling to get over that early fferyltt thing to be honest.


What exactly is troubling you about fferyltt?


I mean Sentinel's extremely odd posting towards ferry's opening post, the 'over-eager' and 'honest mistake' stuff. It's just SO weird.

And I'm calling him ferry or something from now on, fuck writing that username out.

Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 21:20 Vivax wrote:
Marv, could you answer your own question now?


I'm still ok with my vote on ghost for now, but I'm not very sure about it. There's like a whole load of outstanding situations that require people to post more really.


So you are troubled about Sentinels post / Sentinel, but not about fferyltt?

Could I interest you in a vote on fferyltt?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 16 2013 12:33 GMT
#338
I'm not that thrilled with a ferry vote.

Don't feel strongly enough about it to defend him either though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 16 2013 12:34 GMT
#339
On May 16 2013 21:19 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 21:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 16 2013 21:01 Vivax wrote:
@ Phagga

I feel he was needlessly antagonistic, and he didn't seem interested in setup discussion. He is more cooperative now though.

##unvote


If your whole reason for voting me is OMGUS, you will have to keep that vote on me brah

I didnt actually mean to quote that lol.

Why say that you think im not scummy then say Im your top scumspect. hmmmm?
No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
May 16 2013 12:34 GMT
#340
These are all examples of antagonistic, not constructive play.

On May 15 2013 12:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 12:25 Blazinghand wrote:
Zephirdd is almost certainly town

Is this one of your "GREAT TOWN PLAYER" reads? Or a BH read?


He attacks a town read, with a tone that could either be jokey or aggressive, I'm not sure, but it's not constructive.

On May 15 2013 22:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 19:09 phagga wrote:
Just a few thoughts about mechanics since nothing else is going on right now:

We have three different parameters to distinct the moving of the players:
- Moving Direction
- Moving Speed
- Watching Direction

We have to be really unlucky to not confirm the spot of most players in the first night with this many possible unique combinations. So we should all claim our values for those 3 parameters right before deadline.

Also another host question:
Can two players be on the same spot? If not, what happens when they both move on the same spot? Can a player get on a spot where a statue is? If not, what happens when he tries to do so?

why repeat what everyone has said already?


Loaded question.

On May 15 2013 22:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 22:16 marvellosity wrote:
On May 15 2013 22:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 15 2013 19:09 phagga wrote:
Just a few thoughts about mechanics since nothing else is going on right now:

We have three different parameters to distinct the moving of the players:
- Moving Direction
- Moving Speed
- Watching Direction

We have to be really unlucky to not confirm the spot of most players in the first night with this many possible unique combinations. So we should all claim our values for those 3 parameters right before deadline.

Also another host question:
Can two players be on the same spot? If not, what happens when they both move on the same spot? Can a player get on a spot where a statue is? If not, what happens when he tries to do so?

why repeat what everyone has said already?


Why bitch at people if you haven't anything to add yourself, dear?

Trying to be like you dear
Reads marv?


Aggressive tone.

He started like this, then his posts started improving a little, he might have started to feel pressured.
I can't neglect that there's also a policy component to my lynch since he started to play this disruptively. I don't want to end up with Oats at LYLO, no offense.
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