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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 18 2013 06:22 GMT
#15
/in
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 12 2013 13:48 GMT
#129
/confirm
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 12 2013 19:32 GMT
#167
It's not optimal. It's stupid or mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 12 2013 19:36 GMT
#169
I mean it's not optimal to claim miller if you don't know the exact number of delf-aware millers. What Hiro said, it only allows mafia to get away with claiming it right in the beginning. If you are town you should never be checked by a cop.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 12 2013 19:37 GMT
#170
EBWOP: self-aware

And at this point yes, best lynch.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 12 2013 19:47 GMT
#175
On May 13 2013 04:40 Vivax wrote:
And you think the Wall-street investor thing is made up?

And you think Wall-street investor has to be a town role? I don't even know where are you going with your question.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 12 2013 20:39 GMT
#209
On May 13 2013 05:28 Vivax wrote:
Rayn what do you make of Kita calling WoS scum without reason and then more or less disappearing?


I dunno what to make of it. Maybe he will explain it, maybe not, i'll judge later. I'm more interested in DP defending his claim as "what only townie would do" and then saying he is a good scum player and would never draw attention to himself like that as scum. If he thinks this is optimal town play, why so defensive?

And calling people who think claiming miller is scummy stupid/scum is ridiculous. I would atm lynch him based purely on that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 12 2013 20:48 GMT
#218
On May 13 2013 05:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 05:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Only think I don't like about your claim is why N0, DP?
You're calling for us to waste a vigi shot that could be put to possible better use later on in the game.


you don't have to shoot now.... Like obviously I don't want to die. I would RATHER be vigged than lynched though. if it comes to that. Hopefully you can all read my alignment by all the posts I am making clearly outlining the reasons behind my actions.

How about you stop defending your sole action and start scumhunting instead?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 12 2013 20:55 GMT
#224
On May 13 2013 05:53 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 13 2013 05:45 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 13 2013 05:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Only think I don't like about your claim is why N0, DP?
You're calling for us to waste a vigi shot that could be put to possible better use later on in the game.


you don't have to shoot now.... Like obviously I don't want to die. I would RATHER be vigged than lynched though. if it comes to that. Hopefully you can all read my alignment by all the posts I am making clearly outlining the reasons behind my actions.

How about you stop defending your sole action and start scumhunting instead?


Ah LOL? I just claimed miller and am copping a ton of heat for it obviously. I don't want to get vigged so I am trying to be very clear about why i did what i did. I am trying to establish my innocence. Also half the thread haven't posted yet and you have absolutely fuck all in your filter so why don't you worry about yourself and i'll worry about myself ok?

Also telling someone who is already active and posting to start scum hunting doesn't count as scum hunting either

Well everyone who has posted so far besides you are probably town. I'm off to bed, cya tomorrow.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 13 2013 17:56 GMT
#486
Vivax:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 13 2013 15:38 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 04:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 13 2013 04:40 Vivax wrote:
And you think the Wall-street investor thing is made up?

And you think Wall-street investor has to be a town role? I don't even know where are you going with your question.


What do you guys think of this post as answer?

On May 13 2013 15:56 Vivax wrote:
It's not a matter of scumslip, it's a matter of tone. Rayn is subtly being aggressive towards me in that post when all he would have to say is that he thinks DP could have fakeclaimed with his scum rolename.

The "where are you going with your questioning" is one of the things that hit me about him, he is supposed to argue for DP being scum in his position, so he shouldn't have reason to be so neurotic about someone asking him out about it.

I read it as scum not feeling comfortable being asked about that, so he quickly stepped on the defensive thinking that I was attacking him with that question.

On May 13 2013 16:03 Vivax wrote:
It's the difference in mindsets, if he was town with DP as scumread, and someone asked him to give an opinion about DP, his motivation would be to persuade the questioner about his own opinion.

If he was scum, his motivation would be to have to explain as little as possible, to avoid talking much about the issue. In that mindset, questions directed towards him doing that would be viewed by him as threat, and as an attack, and that's the way he replied to that question: Acting as if I was doing something suspicious with my questioning. That's cause he felt threatened by it.

These posts of yours. You asked me if i thought DP lied about his role name. I found the question stupid, as if he was mafia he could have given his role name and fake it to be a self aware miller's role name. Your follow up on this matter is weird. First you agree with me and later on call me scummy because you asked me a stupid question. I thought DP could be scum, how the hell i am supposed to know if you are/aren't his scumbuddy? When you asked me if i thought DP faked his role name, why should i not confront you about a question i find to be scummy (and i still do, at least now when you are suddenly trying to turn it against me)?


Oats is even worse. Oats please re-read what i answered Vivax, because i don't even undesrtand what you are trying to say. You are just twisting my words.


I agree with Prome on OO. I also do not like OO's analysis on my playstyle in this game. I can't read OO well and after Red Team Prize i have just mostly ignored him. Here i think he is a good lynch.


Shirokami: What's your read on ObviousOne and Oats?

OO: Please elaborate on how "town Rayn was much more interrogative and this Rayn is more accusatory"?

Oats: Read my filter again and tell me if you stand by this:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 13 2013 15:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 15:38 Vivax wrote:
On May 13 2013 04:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 13 2013 04:40 Vivax wrote:
And you think the Wall-street investor thing is made up?

And you think Wall-street investor has to be a town role? I don't even know where are you going with your question.


What do you guys think of this post as answer?

I have no clue what it means

You are saying that DP fakeclaimed right?
And rayn is saying that Wall-street investor could be scum.Right. That makes no sense because I assume he thinks that DP's role, Self aware miller could be a scum role. Which it cant cause DUHHHH.
So rayn scum slipped kinda. But its not really scummy the way he phrased that.

TLDR: Rayn scumslipped.

Especially the part "That makes no sense because I assume he thinks that DP's role, Self aware miller could be a scum role.". Are you really this stupid?


And for the record i'm working 12hours/day 7 days a week atm, so if i don't find a good lynch due to my work schedule i will sheep Prome, that dude is totally town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 13 2013 18:17 GMT
#491
Vivax i was mostly focusing on DP defending himself (his claim) and i was about to get onto other people later. I havn't really read any filters and as said didn't focus on other people. What do you think of Oats and shirokami?

For the record i think WoS is town, won't lynch him today unless he does something really scummy.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 13 2013 18:26 GMT
#494
Did you look at their past games, talking about the "feel" here?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 13 2013 18:26 GMT
#495
Or where are you basing your "feel"?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 13 2013 18:42 GMT
#501
Vivax why did you not call out Kita for calling DP scum because of his claim, only me?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 13 2013 18:44 GMT
#502
Oh and i really need all of you to make shiro contribute. I have a long history in mafia with him and i can pretty much tell his alignment no later than N1 if he talks.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 13 2013 18:54 GMT
#510
Vivax i genuinely just found the claim stupid and/or scummy and wanted to grill DP for it. I didn't like the fact that he called everyone who said the claim was scummy scum (because it was, look what it did). I however see your point.

I think Oats is far more careful with his posts than he usually is (as town). I don't like that atm. Failing to read or misreading something can happen as scum aswell, i would not put too much (town)value on that. Usually Oats does his own stuff (right or wrong) and stands by his decision until proven wrong, now his read on me is 1) failing to read, and 2) "sheeping" you (as you left the question in the air and Oats picked it up).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 13 2013 18:58 GMT
#514
Vayne why are you so sure mafia killed DP?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 13 2013 19:02 GMT
#517
Yes and after that you seemed to be sure it was mafia hit. Why did you change your point of view suddenly when BH brought up mafia KP?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 13 2013 19:10 GMT
#525
WoS, your filter page #1 mainly.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 13 2013 19:17 GMT
#527
WoS, because i thought about the N0 nightkill aswell (if scum can kill or not), and you asked Ace about it earlier than i did. I can't see you thinking that "twisted" as mafia (faking the question, as you would have obviously known your team can kill if you were scum.

shiro: Why are you so careful and "blendy" with your posts? This does not match your town or scum meta at all. You need to start having opinions, otherwise i'm gonna lynch you.
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