Carnival Cruise Mafia - Page 3

On May 15 2013 07:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well I have a townread on prplhz Vayne, so who else you got besides me? Anyone? Or are we done here?

On May 15 2013 08:51 Promethelax wrote:


This is actually a surprisingly good point. While it is rare for us to use the role (we usually call it a Jester) this is an Ace themed game and there could be a guy present who wins by being lynched. Since we don't know that to be the case though I think we have to play as though it isn't fact. Putting a guy who wants to be lynched into a game where no one knows he exists is pretty shitty. Its easy to get lynched. Even if there is a jester in the game it will be of the win alone but game continues type, not the game over jester wins type.
Oh, I see Hiro said this. Bah.

Fuck I think its likely that OO is scum and want him lynched for that. Everyone stop with this policy crap though. Either vote OO because you think he is likely to flip scum or do not vote OO. There is not a third option.

OO, finding yourself in endgame with Grush and anyone is a townie dream come true. You know with 100% certainty who the last scum is and you only have to convince Grush. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? If I thought this was your town play we'd be having words later.

VE, you around? I want someone to talk to whose opinions are worth something. And what I said about Vayne still holds true ongoing game blah blah but it'll be done in under 24 hours. Why do you think you can push his lynch through today when I have already told you that I oppose it?

Vayne, I have both a meta and currentgame town read on prplhz. Your arguments have done nothing to convince me of his guilt and his responses to you make him more townie. Change your vote to someone who might actually flip scum.

prp and SnB, I rather like your respective cases on Hiro and Oats.

prp: I don't have the history with Hiro to back it up though, Rockband is one of the few games played since I joined the forum which I didn't read. Could you elaborate on the connections you see between Hiro here and scumHiro there? Your gut read doesn't help me because I don't share it.

SnB: why is it that you disagree with the town tell I have brought up about Oats? How much have you played with him before? The kid is a bit all over the place, though I love him he ccan be an idiot and the 180s and calling out his own scumminess are both present in his town games as well as his scum games.

On May 15 2013 09:03 Promethelax wrote:
but I'm not talking about his activity, its about his scum hunting methods here compared to his ongoing game in which his alignment is [REDACTED] I believe a comparison of his methods here and there suggest that he is town here. I can't say if I think he is matching his town methods or not matching his scum methods due to ongoing game but I think it is worth looking at that ongoing game and thinking about what he has shown in both games, the similarities and the differences.

Now, if you insist on lynching a town read day one I think Vayne is one of the least helpful of them all and wouldn't be terribly sad to see him die however I'd still much rather watch scum swing. I really think that OO is a better lynch based on my early points and also his fucking martyring (which is more of a policy than a scum tell, to be fair). And, if you insist on lynching a town read I'd rather you did something straight stupid like lynch WoS for information or something where I could understand the theory behind it even while yelling at you that you are dumb.

What I'm saying is Vayne is 1. probably town and 2. kinda dumb. Also 3. I wouldn't even find it funny if he got lynched, just pathetic. I get that you hate his playstyle; join the club. But, as Mafia Scum dot net has taught me, having a terrible playstyle doesn't mean you are scum it just means that you are bad.

On May 15 2013 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:

Whoa there tiger this is the guy defending you. Have some fucking faith sir.

On May 15 2013 09:12 Promethelax wrote:


Look bud, you want to talk experience go ahead but you are self admittedly bad while in my most recent game I pushed a day one scum lynch and manged to fight the entire thread into lynching said scum after reversing my tunnel on a townie which had almost lead to said townie getting lynched. I'm better than you. Get over it.

On May 15 2013 09:23 Promethelax wrote:
yeah, I'm done talking to Vayne.

VE you still around? I wanna talk to someone who doesn't make me want to punch myself in the face.

On May 15 2013 09:26 VisceraEyes wrote:

I hope you appreciate the irony of this statement.

On May 15 2013 12:54 Oatsmaster wrote:

He doesnt wanna mislynch someone he thinks is town?

On May 16 2013 03:31 ObviousOne wrote:

You might be waiting a few games to get a full fledged meta case on Vayne. You know, considering this is game 2 for him on this forum here on this account as far as I am aware. If you call me saying him reacting emotionally to Prom when he said that's what he does as town in this very game (and a far as I'm aware that is where this concept originates, that he will get emotional as town when he is headed for a mislynch), why should I believe it?

So I take his last game and his explanation from his play there and extend it to here and I'm left with conflicting ideas brought up by his own design that he essentially is authoring his own meta on a game by game basis. All I have to go on is his own word regarding this and that's why I don't trust it as it makes me wonder why it is that you DO. If I precluded my own play this game with "I only get demotivated about the game as town" and then did what I did, would you honestly take my word for it they I pre-emotes my actions with reasoning?

Besides all that, meta is icing on the cake and not a sole basis for my case. His points regarding Prp were null, not scummy, and I wanted to hang him for lynching Prp for basically manufactured reasons. His emotional response at 3 votes is absolutely out of this world incongruent with the game state.

On May 16 2013 03:50 ObviousOne wrote:

Don't forget who the main wagons were either.

Show me some of that sweet sweet vote analysis you say is one of your strengths. Show us.

On May 16 2013 05:52 Vivax wrote:




You call him suspicious but are sure that he will show up dead tonight?

Doesn't compute

On May 14 2013 00:54 prplhz wrote:
@slOosh You suck

On May 28 2013 06:30 Promethelax wrote:
It worked. Somehow. I'm not sure how he didn't have you as scum after your weak pile on to his day one wagon.

It's funny, I feel really good about my reads this game (besides the Kush one, but more power to him. I've never seen him give so many fucks as town) and think that if I had been town i would have been a top priority night kill and would have lynched a few scum. Playing as sk is really different though, I've never had to try so hard to NOT look townie. There were times I'd leave the thread for pages and pages so people would forget their town reads on me and I pushed stuff I thought was dumb to try to convince mafia I was no threat (like the DP thing, holy fuck was he obviously town).